S06P really isn't that strong
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lanakau888
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Yeah, which would fall under warping "his own" reality since he created the bijuu from the juubi when the juubi was inside of him.
and even then, he still couldn't erase the juubi from existence even though it was part of his own reality.
jayhayallday
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lets not compare DBZ to naruto two different animes
anyways, the Sage was called god of shinobi after saving the world from the ten tails but he is still human. he separated the beast into 9 other beats and created the moon keeping the 10 tails body inside. why didnt he just kill it before he died? who knows..maybe he though his sons would be the one to use its power to help save the world... especially his youngest as he chosed him on his death bed
anyways, the Sage was called god of shinobi after saving the world from the ten tails but he is still human. he separated the beast into 9 other beats and created the moon keeping the 10 tails body inside. why didnt he just kill it before he died? who knows..maybe he though his sons would be the one to use its power to help save the world... especially his youngest as he chosed him on his death bed
ShinobiEmperor
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Instead of saying "see what I mean" which is a cop-out and says nothing, why dont you tell me how you can defend against reality warping?
I am not saying the sage does necessarily have it but if he does and at a high level tell me please how you can defend against that.
Please not I mean IF the sage has this power, if the sage does have it please tell me what Goku can do?
This is an example of what a guy with reality warping can do:
Becoming the universe
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Smashing cities
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Playing with your foes with the strenght of the universe
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Creating your own universe
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Surviving being destroyed to the bones like nothing
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Again I say IF the sage has reality warping, what can they do to him? And dont reply "see what I mean U.U?" I want you to actually tell me what can they hope to do against reality warping.
You dong seem to grasp how haxx is reality warping, is the ability that is just below omnipotence.
ninjastormgenaration33
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dude this is Marvel not SO6P's powers.Goku has IT so he can easily counter that and he would end the match before it starts so silence and GTFO.S06P doesn't stand a chance aganst GokuShinobiEmperor
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This is an example of what a dude with reality warping can do. Reality warping is an ability present in a lot of animes too. For example Haruhi Suzumiya.
Again I am saying IF Rikudou Sennin has high reality warping, what can they do to him?
ShinobiEmperor
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Do you read my posts? The first thing I said was that RS would lose even if he has reality warping becuase of the speed difference, because he would blast RS before he has time to process a thought.
BUT if he gets time to warp reality then its over for Goku.
TheOrangeSage
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He had control of ever single chakra nature. Not to mention sealing spells. And his eyes the sharingan that we've seen in the show are all from him. the power of madara and the 5th hokage, mist techniques and fireball jutsu, earth techniques and giant waterfall techs, all from him. This thread is junk
Dragonfly X
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No. Lola, you've gotten that a bit wrong, it wasn't him personally who created all that, but he started basic techniques that evolved into that. I wager he didn't create the sealing technique "Death god" but he probably created basic sealing.
ninjastormgenaration33
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You really believe S06P stands a chance against Goku?>He probably couldn't beat Ichigo
lanakau888
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3 things:
1) Its pretty much proven that the SO6P doesn't have those high level reality warping abilities because he wasn't able to erase the juubi from existence, there were other warriors around his level before he became the juubi's jinchuriki, and izanagi, is the strongest genjutsu the user can cast on "themselves" since it warps "their own" reality as explained by Tobi.
2) it is explained that using yin release the sage "creates" form and yang release "gives it life." This doesn't say anything about "taking" life from something that already exists, it is just creating something from imagination and giving it life, and that "something" created is limited by the chakra the sage has.
3) By the rules and physics of DBZ-verse, the higher your "power level" is above your opponents, the less their hacks abilities affect you. Its the reason why babidi needs majin buu to kill the z fighters, the reason why frieza can't blow goku up with his mind, the reason why nappa isn't affected by chiatzu's magic, and the reason why vegeto can fight while transformed as a candy.
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ShinobiEmperor
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Again only IF the sage has reality warping. And I hope you are trolling about Ichigo, RS (post Juubi absorption) could solo the entire Narutoverse. Are you telling me you believe Ichigo could solo the Narutoverse?
When we see RS using Creation of All Things, we see the Juubi eye in the background is it is possible he didnt got that ability until he absorbed the Juubi.
It is indeed logical and possible, yet Madara outright said Izanagi removes the barrier between imagination and reality and can turn reality into imagination too. Bear in mind Izanagi is the sub-jutsu of Creation of All Things.
No one in DBZ ever faced a reality warper, and honestly they have no way to fight it bar attempting to kill in the first seconds of the fight.
If they faced for example Jim Jaspers they would be raped to the next week, not even the entire DBZ universe together would stand a chance. Blowing your mind is a mental attack, fighting as a candy is resistance to be transformed.
But actual reality warping DBZ has never faced and would have zero chances agains it, the main issue is because reality warping doesnt require a colorful beam to hit you it simply acts and thats it. Even if it could somehow provide defense to reality warping which has never been shown it would mean nothing, a reality warping could simply raise its own power level to a Graham Number and then proceed to reality warp the shit out of the DBZ universe.
The7thHokage
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U still post shit....has any ninja defeated a bijuu....no, are ninjas with rinnegan weak, no....can any ninja use izanagi a lot, no...... The SO6P had all of these and more.....is he weak....no
NarutoKage2
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Maybe i should read we don't know enough about SO6P to know exactly how he did all that we were told....?
If that's the case then yeah you have a point because i have wondered this myself. For example, how did he use Izanagi with rinnegan? What happens to the tech exactly? He split up the juubi, but basically ppl are wrong to say he invented the 9 different tailed beasts/made things out of thin air. No, he did'nt. He used the chakra of the 10 tails and split it into the 9 different bijjus,not sth out of nothing.
If that's the case then yeah you have a point because i have wondered this myself. For example, how did he use Izanagi with rinnegan? What happens to the tech exactly? He split up the juubi, but basically ppl are wrong to say he invented the 9 different tailed beasts/made things out of thin air. No, he did'nt. He used the chakra of the 10 tails and split it into the 9 different bijjus,not sth out of nothing.
lanakau888
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Okay...then why would he split the juubi up into 9 tailed beasts? Why not just erase it from existence? He split it so that it wouldn't be a threat to the earth once he past away, but eliminating it would have been a much better option if it was available.
Sure it seems logical if you only look at that part of Tobi's explanation by itself. If you include the part in his speech about him "creating" with yin, and "breathing life into his creations" with yang, then you would know that he can't "will people out of existence" since Creation of All things warps reality in creating something and giving it life, not destroying something that already exists.
Babidi, Majin buu, Piccolo, shenron and all of the kais are reality warpers. They have all created objects out of nothing, and in the DC universe it is explicitly stated that magic is the ability to warp reality.
Shenron has the ability warp reality to the point of re-creating planets, and bringing life to beings far more powerful than he is, but he explicitely states that he can't "will someone out of existance" who is stronger than he is. He can't even use his magic to change them into something weak or teleport them somewhere dangerous in order to kill them.
This alone is a sufficient proof to show that you can't beat DBZ fighters with hax alone such as planet-level reality warping. You can use the reality warping to warp things around the DBZ char in order to fight them, but you can't use it directly against them in order to will them out of existence.
ShinobiEmperor
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In the scene where he is using the Perfect Izanagi or as people call it Creation of All Things you see the Juubi's eye in the background. So likely with said eye he could cast it.
NarutoKage2
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Thats the problem. The eye is on the juubi, who he defeated using izanagi, the Sage has been shown with rinnegan, not a form of sharingan. Maybe he took control of the juubi eye, but thats speculation.
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