S06P really isn't that strong

[ninjastormgenaration33]

I agree that the SO6P is not as strong as people make him out to be, and could have been surpassed by guys like Madara and Tobi before he became the juubi jinchuriki. His greatest feat without the near-infinite chakra the juubi provided him is defeating the juubi, the whole creating the moon thing could be repeated by tobi, nagato, or madara if they had the juubi's massive chakra reserves.

But SO6P with the juubi sealed within him is unsurpassed by anyone in the manga.

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[lanakau888]

It was to my understanding from the manga that he created the juubi, at least that's that "tobi" said and so6p defeated the jubbi so, he is definitely stronger than the jubbi and has countably infinite amount of chakra.

He didn't create the juubi. He "created" the nine tailed beasts from the juubi.

 

[ninjastormgenaration33]

He didn't create the juubi. He "created" the nine tailed beasts from the juubi.

This

 

[dareak]

I like the way the OP is +repping everyone who agrees with him.....

 

[ShinobiEmperor]

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You just admitted that the Sage at full power cant be defeated. So case closed.

 

[ninjastormgenaration33]

You just admitted that the Sage at full power cant be defeated. So case closed.

I didnt say he was beatable,I said he isn't that strong

 

[ShinobiEmperor]

I didnt say he was beatable,I said he isn't that strong

Then what the **** do you mean by "that strong"? Basically what everyone thinks about the sage is that he cant be defeated not even by all the Naruto characters against him, until the end of the manga where some characters like Tobi and possibly Naruto will get his level or something close.

This is what everyone is saying, so if you agree why do you say he isnt "that strong"? What do you mean by that?

 

[ninjastormgenaration33]

Then what the **** do you mean by "that strong"? Basically what everyone thinks about the sage is that he cant be defeated not even by all the Naruto characters against him, until the end of the manga where some characters like Tobi and possibly Naruto will get his level or something close.

This is what everyone is saying, so if you agree why do you say he isnt "that strong"? What do you mean by that?

I mean he's Overrated.People act like he's Goku or something

 

[Owarij]

I mean he's Overrated.People act like he's Goku or something

Every Level headed and moderately intelligent person would know that goku can beat the sage in a few seconds....Although thhe sage does have izanagi....

 

[ninja nik]

In Naruto wiki it says "According to Tobi, centuries before the beginning of the main storyline, the Sage defeated the most powerful demon in the ninja world, the Ten-Tails, being praised as a god by virtue of his victory."He was the creator of ninjutsu,thus he would be praised "As a God".People only thought he was so strong because they had nothing.If you switch So6P with ummmmm lets say Madara, he would still be called a God because the people knew nothing.IMO I think Madara,Itachi,Tobi,and Sasuke and Nagato have a chance at beating the 10 Tails. I know he has so much chakra and the tail beasts are just portions,but think about it.Itachi's Sword Seals him and Yata Mirror blocks everything.Sasuke has Ameratase,Kirin and Sasuno,Tobi can make himself Intanaibly,Nagato has the same moves the sages had(Chibuka Tensai and Shinra Tensai)and Madara has meterors.We just hype him because of his status, not because what we have seen.

tobi, madara, nagato n hashirama would be able to control or at least tackle 10 tails n seal it....but sasuke cant for now....he's strong but not suited for capturing or taming of 10 tails....he has no sealing techs n his genjutsu isnt that strong to control any bijuu

 

[ShinobiEmperor]

I mean he's Overrated.People act like he's Goku or something

The sage has reality warping. How can Goku defend against being simply wished out of existence?

Every Level headed and moderately intelligent person would know that goku can beat the sage in a few seconds....Although thhe sage does have izanagi....

DBZ characters would be the sage because of the speed difference, they can move many times faster than hypersonic speeds instantly so they will behead in a RS in a blast before he can process a thought.

But in theory if we compare powers he may indeed defeat Goku, the sage controls reality, Goku is bound to reality. How can Goku defend to simply being wished out of existence?

 

[Rafid]

there are many arguments but one of them is how can naruto be fighting if the nine tails is extracted from him to create the juubi unless granny chiyo comes againU_U

 

[Owarij]

The sage has reality warping. How can Goku defend against being simply wished out of existence?



DBZ characters would be the sage because of the speed difference, they can move many times faster than hypersonic speeds instantly so they will behead in a RS in a blast before he can process a thought.

But in theory if we compare powers he may indeed defeat Goku, the sage controls reality, Goku is bound to reality. How can Goku defend to simply being wished out of existence?

Quickly flying into space and blowing up the planet T.T

 

[ShinobiEmperor]

Quickly flying into space and blowing up the planet T.T

As I said, Goku and lot of DBZ characters could win becuase of their speed, they would be able to kill RS before he can process a thought. But if RS manages to use his reality manipulation, its over at least if it is at the level that has been hinted.

 

[lanakau888]

The sage has reality warping. How can Goku defend against being simply wished out of existence?

The sage does not control reality. The sage controls HIS reality. Its the same reason why danzo didn't just wish sasuke and Tobi out of existence, its because he couldn't. Its the same reason that the SO6P didn't simply wish the juubi out of existence, its because he couldn't. And its the same reason that the SO6P only "surpassed all his peers" after he became the juubi's jinchuriki, implying that before then there were a group of other warriors who were capable of fighting him at his level.

 

[ShinobiEmperor]

The sage does not control reality. The sage controls HIS reality. Its the same reason why danzo didn't just wish sasuke and Tobi out of existence, its because he couldn't. Its the same reason that the SO6P didn't simply wish the juubi out of existence, its because he couldn't. And its the same reason that the SO6P only "surpassed all his peers" after he became the juubi's jinchuriki, implying that before then there were a group of other warriors who were capable of fighting him at his level.

Sage's ability isnt the same as Danzou and Tobi, they only use them to cheat death is basically a respawn.

Sage could use it outside his reality to create things for example.

 

[PyroX25]

In Naruto wiki it says "According to Tobi, centuries before the beginning of the main storyline, the Sage defeated the most powerful demon in the ninja world, the Ten-Tails, being praised as a god by virtue of his victory."He was the creator of ninjutsu,thus he would be praised "As a God".People only thought he was so strong because they had nothing.If you switch So6P with ummmmm lets say Madara, he would still be called a God because the people knew nothing.IMO I think Madara,Itachi,Tobi,and Sasuke and Nagato have a chance at beating the 10 Tails. I know he has so much chakra and the tail beasts are just portions,but think about it.Itachi's Sword Seals him and Yata Mirror blocks everything.Sasuke has Ameratase,Kirin and Sasuno,Tobi can make himself Intanaibly,Nagato has the same moves the sages had(Chibuka Tensai and Shinra Tensai)and Madara has meterors.We just hype him because of his status, not because what we have seen.

The sage of the six paths is the strongest shinobi in history for a reason because he defeated the ten tails .He create the moon and the tailed beasts (1-9) while dying and had the rinnegan .
Madara and Tobi might have a chance to seal it (a 1 in 1000 shot) and when it fails they will be killed .
Nagato won't have much chance since he can't move and needs the 6 pains to fight for him which ain't as powerful as him.
Itachi wouldn't stand a chance even with Sasuno his sword wouldn't reach the beast and even if it did it wouldn't cut it and his shield would be useless against it's power.
Sasuke you must be joking the ten tails would destory him.

 

[lanakau888]

Sage's ability isnt the same as Danzou and Tobi, they only use them to cheat death is basically a respawn.

Sage could use it outside his reality to create things for example.

Give me an example of him using it outside his reality in order to create things.

And you still haven't answered why he couldn't just erase the juubi from existance if he is able to manipulate reality at the level you are suggesting.

Or that the fact that before he gained the juubi, he was suppose to be able to use izanagi, yet still had a group of people at his level of combat.

Or that there is nothing in the manga that suggests that the SO6P izanagi is any different from Tobi's or danzo's.

 

[Owarij]

Give me an example of him using it outside his reality in order to create things.

And you still haven't answered why he couldn't just erase the juubi from existance if he is able to manipulate reality at the level you are suggesting.

Or that the fact that before he gained the juubi, he was suppose to be able to use izanagi, yet still had a group of people at his level of combat.

Or that there is nothing in the manga that suggests that the SO6P izanagi is any different from Tobi's or danzo's.

Give me an example of him using it outside his reality in order to create things.

He created each and every one of the bijuu...The octupus,fox, all of them , then put the juubi's chakra into them

 

[ninjastormgenaration33]

Every Level headed and moderately intelligent person would know that goku can beat the sage in a few seconds....Although thhe sage does have izanagi....

The sage has reality warping. How can Goku defend against being simply wished out of existence?



DBZ characters would be the sage because of the speed difference, they can move many times faster than hypersonic speeds instantly so they will behead in a RS in a blast before he can process a thought.

But in theory if we compare powers he may indeed defeat Goku, the sage controls reality, Goku is bound to reality. How can Goku defend to simply being wished out of existence?

See what I mean U_U