RTN Hinata Vs Kidomaru

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Zero reaction speed feats from Hinata except that one deflection of Juubi's wood stake, which is nothing special plus failure to dodge or block a basic WZ clone attack [ ]. Neji would have never won without his sharp intellect, which Hinata has, again, never shown to have. Zero Kaiten speed feats means there's no way to know if she can actually to reflect everything like Neji in conjunction with his dodging feat [ ] - I've never seen something even close to that page portrayed from Hinata. Twin Lions are negated by Golden Armor if it comes to it at the beginning, Air Palm is useless as it's barely mid-range.
 

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Nah man..I'm not sure you can actually argue that seeing as Sakura was actually shown being saved by someone.
Also we have this:
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Hinata's reappearance after the initial spike wave shows she's on Naruto's left without anyone else beside her. True it's not an enlarged picture but see this:
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Besides, if someone was protecting her (and I believe you mean another hyuga) why didn't said person react to Hinata willing to sacrifice her life like "Kya..Hinata sama!" or sth?

I simple meant that due to the fact that its featless , u cant assume wat happend as its ntn but speculation.


Also Hiashi's statement didn't show concern for Hinata's safety but for Naruto since he couldn't move himself. Doesn't this mean a confident mindset that Hinata could have avoided those herself?
For sure , but i never said she couldn't , Reacting to linear spears does not = reacting to waves of daggers from all angles point-blank.



As for the image, you're right..There are no feats but there is logic. Hinata trained with Neji and her father iirc in the time skip and you still believe her reaction feat (a basic ability a Hyuga should excel in because if you can't react fast enough you would be bested in Taijutsu) would still be below par?

Training with Neji does not mean she has reactions on par with SRA Neji , just like it doesn't mean Hinata had 64 palms and Kaiten simply due to training with Neji.


Hinata was placed in the battle heavy second division in the War along side Neji...and I don't think that would have been the case if her battle abilities are below par. She could have been placed in the support division (5th) like her teammates or on the reconnaissance team (Kankuro's division) if that was the case.

This still doesn't mean her reaction is even close to his unless ur gonna place everyone in the division on par with her simply because she was included in it?

By portayal she's below CE Neji at the time she was included into the battle division and barely catching up later in the War.
 
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I simple meant that due to the fact that its featless , u cant assume wat happend as its ntn but speculation.
Speculation? Isn't that what most debates are about? And really though you can't deny it's clear what happened there. the kaiten's range that was meant to protect Naruto. She wasn't shielded by the Kaiten that protected Naruto, was alone and didn't use Kaiten as evidenced by the second scan i posted.
How then was she able to come out unscathed from the barrage? Air palm wouldn't have sufficed because of the volume of spikes and there isn't even a hint of someone protecting her.


For sure , but i never said she couldn't , Reacting to linear spears does not = reacting to waves of daggers from all angles point-blank.
Didn't see @bold earlier because that means you don't think the first point was speculation right? :lol
Well in the second scan, Hinata was already moving at the same time she was expressing surprise at how fast the spikes were coming (and they were already close as seen in that second scan from my 1st post) showing how fast her reaction is.

And if that's not enough to convince you, i'll have to go with saying Kido can't pull off that feat of multiple daggers and spiders against War arc Hinata. If you go through his fight with Neji, ... we clearly see that Kido was able to pull off that feat because he set traps outside of Neji's range. War Arc Hinata's range is surely greater than 50m and would see Kido try to set up traps. He'll have to go out of Hinata's range to do that and at 800m(which probably isn't her limit) it'll be too far out for Kido to replicate that feat.

Training with Neji does not mean she has reactions on par with SRA Neji , just like it doesn't mean Hinata had 64 palms and Kaiten simply due to training with Neji.
True..but logically, training with both Neji and Hiashi should probably have brought her reactions somewhere between Post SRA Neji and ES Neji.
At the Chuunin exams, she similar to what Neji used to react in the Kido fight. And just in case you want to point out that Neji was only leading her to think she had a chance, the chuunin exams section in Hinata's profile in DB1 doesn't seem to agree with that
Hyuuga Hinata

Statistics

Ninjutsu: 1.5
Taijutsu: 2.5
Genjutsu: 1
Intelligence: 2.5
Strength: 1
Speed: 2
Stamina: 1.5
Hand Seals: 2
Total Ability: 3
Latent Potential: 4
Luck: 2
Hinata’s fighting ability was found lacking by the Hyuuga Clan. But her latent potential is quite conspicuous, so development is to be expected in the future.

Chuunin Exam: Third Preliminary Test

[Her fight against Neji]

The time had finally come to fight against Neji, from the Branch House, and hater of the Main House. Hinata disliked conflict, despite which she fought desperately in order to change herself. But as expected, she was no match for Neji, whom people refer to as the strongest in the Hyuuga Clan. [Missing sentence]

Naruto is throwing taunts at Neji. Hinata is able to draw courage from his cheering…

A scene where she even fights on par with the great Neji. The blood of the Hyuuga also flows is Hinata’s veins!


But she yields before Neji’s Gentle Fist, and gets wounded and beaten down several times over…

Earnest feelings are stronger than any weapon…



This still doesn't mean her reaction is even close to his unless ur gonna place everyone in the division on par with her simply because she was included in it?

By portayal she's below CE Neji at the time she was included into the battle division and barely catching up later in the War.
Nah..I didn't make that point based on reaction feats but because you obviously were downgrading Hinata's abilities which you still are by @bold :lol

But you can tell me how and when such portrayal was made though..i'll go look for the scans myself. Don't mention the 64 palms though as that can't be enough to just automatically place her on CE Neji level when it's portrayed she spent time mastering the difficult Twin Lions fist.

Edit: Lmao i just realized you said below CE Neji xD.
Below CE Neji?? Really? xD Now i'm more eager to see this portrayal xD
 
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