RSM Naruto vs SM Hashirama

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Location set as Boruto Movie's Shinju dimension, distance is 1 kilometer and both are bloodlusted/have full intel. Teen Naruto, no NE absorbing a la VOTE. Hashirama is alive and starts with Mokujin out.

I don't think there's any significant gap anymore between RSM Naruto/RG Sasuke and VOTE Hashirama/Madara, i gladly accept some input.
 

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Naruto wins, easily.

-RSM Flash Bijuu Dama would obliterate Shinsuusenju seeing how large a standard is.
-Naruto can add Fuuton to his Bijuu Dama thus Hashirama can't catch then,
-He can use 9 BDFRS at a time along with BD barrages from any avatar clones he might make.
-If Hashirama tries dropping Myojinmon a clone obliterates with BD or any type of Chou Rasen Shuriken.

Naruto w/ Full Kurama is enough to surpass Hashirama in raw power, RSM adds the things he needs to get around Hashirama's capabilities outside of raw power.
 
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Naruto stomps him .restrict any form of uncatchable RS and then hashirama might stand a chance .
 

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Naruto still wins, Zee. You said "anymore", so what exactly changed your mind?
 

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I guess that is Because an hour ago the creator of the manga(KG) stated that SM hashirama beats Rinnegan sasuke w/o Ameno and PS chidori w/ the same explanation that the sage ### (can't remember them now) used to give and every one used to laught at it and ignore him as if he was a piece of shit .

Lmao, interesting explanation. :lol

Then doesn't that mean that Teen RSM Naruto >>> Teen Rinnegan Sasuke? If Naruto still wins "easily" (even without NE and Ashura Avatar), while Sasuke loses when he's restricted of Ameno and PS Chidori, that'd make Naruto able to low-diff Sasuke.
 

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Lmfao "creator of the Manga".

Gotta love my fans. Watching my every move. I wasn't even 100% serious when I posted anyway, hence the "trolololol" at the end of my posts.
 

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What thread said Hashi > Rinne Sauce?

Naruto stomps
 

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But seriously. Restrict Sasuke of everything but Susanoo and he'd have a chance of losing.
 

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RSM or RSBM?

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Yup.

Inb4 you spazz out, he is still likely to win.

so Rinnegan Sasuke has Perfect Susanoo or not? im kinda confused with the wording of the question.

If it is still yes my question to you is

If EMS Madara would have gotten a double kurama cloak from Naruto and Minato then us ps as a defense only at VOTE fight would he have received that same damage?

Because Rinnegan Sasuke's Ps would still be tiers above that plus he can fly shockwaves end Hashirama
 

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so Rinnegan Sasuke has Perfect Susanoo or not? im kinda confused with the wording of the question.

If it is still yes my question to you is

If EMS Madara would have gotten a double kurama cloak from Naruto and Minato then us ps as a defense only at VOTE fight would he have received that same damage?

Because Rinnegan Sasuke's Ps would still be tiers above that plus he can fly shockwaves end Hashirama

Yes he has PS.




The larger one is the stronger one as these are both BD explosions. Meaning VoTE explosion>VoTE 2. Meaning the individual attacks used in VoTE 1>The individual attacks used in VoTE 2. Meaning Chojo Kebutsu can damage Sasuke's PS if it hits.
 

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Yes he has PS.




The larger one is the stronger one as these are both BD explosions. Meaning VoTE explosion>VoTE 2. Meaning the individual attacks used in VoTE 1>The individual attacks used in VoTE 2. Meaning Chojo Kebutsu can damage Sasuke's PS if it hits.

No No No No No he did not just say that Lmfao.

All that shows is more dust it kicked up the explosion was ground level while the latter was in mid air so all you could actually see was raw explosion you know how small that explosion would be if you remove all the debri and dust.

Also those punches or blades Bijuu dama's are not on the level of those attacks. We've seen what Sasuke did to those chibaku tensei's Susanoo intake is always greater than its output.

Sasuke's susanoo is to fast i mean he chopped up 2 meteors before BDFRS could detonate and flew from basically orbit to the ground in 2 chapters. His Susanoo tanks easily.
 

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No No No No No he did not just say that Lmfao.

All that shows is more dust it kicked up the explosion was ground level while the latter was in mid air so all you could actually see was raw explosion you know how small that explosion would be if you remove all the debri and dust.

Also those punches or blades Bijuu dama's are not on the level of those attacks. We've seen what Sasuke did to those chibaku tensei's Susanoo intake is always greater than its output.

Sasuke's susanoo is to fast i mean he chopped up 2 meteors before BDFRS could detonate and flew from basically orbit to the ground in 2 chapters. His Susanoo tanks easily.



No, that's not dust. This and that are the same exact thing. He might be able to dodge, might, but he's definitely not tanking with zero damage.
 

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No, that's not dust. This and that are the same exact thing. He might be able to dodge, might, but he's definitely not tanking with zero damage.

that was clearly dust you can see the prickles in the dust in that scan but either way you put it was not raw explosion like the vote2 clashe meaning you have to lower the actual size.

Madara Susanoo cam out with basically equal damage as Sasuke's from the VOTE CLash their is no way His susanoo is even on the same tier as Sasuke's thus he tanks with no diff

Explosion size is not accurate at all im pretty sure all the bijuu combined charged dama explosion is bigger than bm Kurama flash bd explosion.
 
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that was clearly dust you can see the prickles in the dust in that scan but either way you put it was not raw explosion like the vote2 clashe meaning you have to lower the actual size.

Madara Susanoo cam out with basically equal damage as Sasuke's from the VOTE CLash their is no way His susanoo is even on the same tier as Sasuke's thus he tanks with no diff

Explosion size is not accurate at all im pretty sure all the bijuu combined charged dama explosion is bigger than bm Kurama flash bd explosion.

No, it's not dust. I just showed you an explosion of a Bijuu Dama looking the same exact way, and there's no way you can argue that both are dust as the BD only hit the Gudo Dama. So no, you are wrong here.

Sasuke had his left face wing and arm destroyed. Madara's Susanoo was destroyed completely. What you see in that scan is pieces of wood. That's why it's only on the right side where SS was.

And all of the Biju's combined explosion being bigger than Flash BD is relevant how again?
 

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Naruto wins low/mid diff

--incoming chojo is countered by BDRS barrage. Naruto can already toss out 6 at a time and that's without even using his avatar. And having his clones fight limbo. Hashirama is not grabbing them and the explosion of 6 of them already surpassed that of VOTE meaning that the backpack gets eradicated. Naruto can also toss out more of them to ensure that the fists are busted

--once the backpack is destroyed, naruto nukes Hashirama off the face of the earth. Main body lacks the offensive power like chojo to be a factor. And it's not tanking Narutos firepower when he can toss out 6 BDRS and atleast 9 Bijuu RS at a time

--myojinmon is countered by undoing his avatar and body flickering away.
 

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Lmao, interesting explanation. :lol

Then doesn't that mean that Teen RSM Naruto >>> Teen Rinnegan Sasuke? If Naruto still wins "easily" (even without NE and Ashura Avatar), while Sasuke loses when he's restricted of Ameno and PS Chidori, that'd make Naruto able to low-diff Sasuke.
Sasuke wins .hashirama might stand a chance if he could catch PS both swords and had enough remaining arms to destroy ps which is completely unlikely .

Your A>B>C logic doesnt work here .hashirama stands a chance against sasuke because he can catch his swords .hashirama cant catch TTBRS and BRS thus he loses badly .restrict RS and its variants and hashirama stands a chance though these restriction would barely make naruto weaker in terms of overall power since TTB is his strongest attack which hashirama can catch and redirect .

But yeah Teen RSM Naruto w/o NE beats Rin sasuke w/o anything but susano low diff .without these restrictions(with NE still restricted) ,Naruto would beat him mid diff .
 
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