RSM is the same as RSJ

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Hagoromo can't be using RSJ cuz he doesn't have the Juubi inside of him.
And RSM can generate NE because a flying spirit shouldn't be able to interact with nature and absorb NE.
And his mode looks just like juubidara's.
 

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I'm certain that's the jutsu used to seal the Juubi inside the user.

Having the Juubi is stated to be the equivalent of having Rikudou Senjutsu.

I don't even think Hagoromo had RSM prior to becoming a Juubi Jin.
 

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I'm certain that's the jutsu used to seal the Juubi inside the user.

Having the Juubi is stated to be the equivalent of having Rikudou Senjutsu.

I don't even think Hagoromo had RSM prior to becoming a Juubi Jin.

It has to be a kkg only available to Hagos generation because Hamura has Truth Seeker Orbs which are a byproduct of RSM
 

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It has to be a kkg only available to Hagos generation because Hamura has Truth Seeker Orbs which are a byproduct of RSM

Well, I personally think each only inherited one of Kaguya's Rikudou Powers.

Hagoromo inherited the Rinnegan and Hamura inherited Rikudou Senjutsu.

I don't think Hagoromo had TSB like Hamura did until becoming a Juubi Jin.
 

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Well, I personally think each only inherited one of Kaguya's Rikudou Powers.

Hagoromo inherited the Rinnegan and Hamura inherited Rikudou Senjutsu.

I don't think Hagoromo had TSB like Hamura did until becoming a Juubi Jin.

They both had TSB spears while fighting the juubi. When it comes to Hago and Hamura it isnt clear cut evenly distributed like Ashura and Indra it would appear.

One had the moon staff and seal, the other had sun. Both are made of TSB.

Actually I just checked Hamura has a completely different staff. Hago still has his sun/moon one. They are both just op.
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They both had TSB spears while fighting the juubi. When it comes to Hago and Hamura it isnt clear cut evenly distributed like Ashura and Indra it would appear.

One had the moon staff and seal, the other had sun. Both are made of TSB.

Those aren't made up of TSB and we know this when Obito formed it before even absorbing Madara's Bijuu Chakras, not to mention that it is treated as a separate object.
 

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Those aren't made up of TSB and we know this when Obito formed it before even absorbing Madara's Bijuu Chakras, not to mention that it is treated as a separate object.

Then what is it? I guess theyre just carrying around 4 fun

Hago used his staff to bestow power to Naruto and Sasuke. I dont see why his staff wouldnt be TSB.
 
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Then what is it? I guess theyre just carrying around 4 fun

No idea honestly, but it's treated as a separate object.



Obito's TSB was warped away yet Obito still had his staff with him which suggests it's an entirely different object.
 

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Well obito was actualky holding the staff. They warped obito not his tsb.

They touched obito back and swapped him with minato

Im telling you that staff is TSB
 

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Well obito was actualky holding the staff. They warped obito not his tsb.

They touched obito back and swapped him with minato

Im telling you that staff is TSB

It doesn't matter. The TSB are connected through Obito's chakra.

The fact that the TSB were not warped suggests that the TSB are entirely different from the Staff.
 

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It doesn't matter. The TSB are connected through Obito's chakra.

The fact that the TSB were not warped suggests that the TSB are entirely different from the Staff.

It matters because he was holding the staff. He also later transforms his staff with his TSB as one several times. They are one in the same
 

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So you made a thread to counter what I said. :lol RSM and RSJ are not the same.
 

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It matters because he was holding the staff. He also later transforms his staff with his TSB as one several times. They are one in the same

Nope because if it were composed of the same chakra, then it would've moved in resonance with the TSB.

The fact that they didn't bother being cautious of warping it away implies that it's completely different.
 

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Hagoromo can't be using RSJ cuz he doesn't have the Juubi inside of him.
And RSM can generate NE because a flying spirit shouldn't be able to interact with nature and absorb NE.
And his mode looks just like juubidara's.

Just to avoid confusion, Rikudou Sage Mode is an transformation like Sage Mode or Chakra Mode. Juubi Coffin Seal is more of an permanent transformation, which makes the user strongly resemble Hagoromo.

Hagoromo could go RSM if he wanted to. And become more OP.
 

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Nope because if it were composed of the same chakra, then it would've moved in resonance with the TSB.

The fact that they didn't bother being cautious of warping it away implies that it's completely different.

No it doesnt man. They dont even fully understand how it works. The staff is composed of TSB he transforms it with everything else and you know this.
 
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