[Discussion] RS Kakashi?

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Was Kakashi pseudo RS like Obito when Obito gave him his chakra?
Obito was already in RS level (although in complete) and he can use many RS techniques on top of it.
So when he gave him the rest of his chakra, did that make Kakashi pseudo RS level as well?

It should considering that Obito was not Indra level.
Kakashi is no doubt Indra level since he was using a Perfect Susanoo but he should have been able to use more because it would not make sense that Obito's chakra to be Indra level when he took the Juubi, had Hashirama body. The only thing that he lacked when he gave Kakashi his powers is the Rinnegan.

I think Kakashi did not have Rinnegan powers but in terms of Yang, he should have been able to use RS level or at the very least, Asura techs.
I know that he has no Senju cells but he was given the chakra that had both Indra and Asura.
That should have actually given him Rinnegan on top of it. I do not know why it did not.

So does that mean that you have to have the actual eyes and body and not just chakra?
This would explain why Sasuke did not naturally get the Rinnegan since Kabuto and Hashirama gave him Senju chakra.
(I am not sure whether Kabuto gave him Hashirama cells when he was repairing his body to revive Sasuke).

So does that mean that if Ao injected himself with Toneri's or Mitsuki's body, he would be able to get Jougan or Tenseigan?
 

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Dude calm yourself...Kakashi ain't indra level had ems he used it...He wasnt even Madara edo level..But its still a good thread its just you think too much bro..
Really? So how come he was able to use Perfect Susanoo if he wasn't even at Indra level? Or what the hell is even Madara edo level? What does that make him?
You think too little.
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kakashi is indra level??? ..wattttttttt??!!..
Yeah, we know that Indra incarnates were able to use Perfect Susanoo. Kakashi having been given Obito's RS chakra became an "incarnate" of Obito.

We know he is capable of this since he is at RS incomplete level. He was able to use the interdimensional space where he can talk with Rin and Naruto. Even pulls in Kakashi at his final moment.
 

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Really? So how come he was able to use Perfect Susanoo if he wasn't even at Indra level? Or what the hell is even Madara edo level? What does that make him?
You think too little.
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Yeah, we know that Indra incarnates were able to use Perfect Susanoo. Kakashi having been given Obito's RS chakra became an "incarnate" of Obito.

We know he is capable of this since he is at RS incomplete level. He was able to use the interdimensional space where he can talk with Rin and Naruto. Even pulls in Kakashi at his final moment.
teh ps argument u used is invalid imo..

becuz in kakatshi caze bobito lend his ps strenght to kakatshi for short moment...that ps susano belonged to bobito and got transmited to kakatshi just for short period of time...it wasn't really part of kakatshi's strenght...


- can kakatshi use that ps now??? now he can't...and even if he could ..he would never surpass level of some1 as genius and strong as indra...
 

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teh ps argument u used is invalid imo..

becuz in kakatshi caze bobito lend his ps strenght to kakatshi for short moment
What? Then you're not understanding things. This is the same thing as Hagoromo giving Sasuke and Naruto the moon and sun seal.

If we take that logic, we would say that they never were RS level. Does not matter if they had it for an instance or not. The point is, what level was Kakashi at that moment?

that ps susano belonged to bobito and got transmited to kakatshi just for short period of time...it wasn't really part of kakatshi's strenght...
Moot point. Kakashi was in use of it. This is like saying Kakashi never had the Kamui since he was "borrowing" it for Obito.

can kakatshi use that ps now??? now he can't...and even if he could ..he would never surpass level of some1 as genius and strong as indra...
Yes, but much like any power up, it must be nerfed and so it was taken away. He gained Obito's chakra which unlocked PS.

Also, stop using the "well he does not have it now" as an argument, the thing being talked here about is what level was he at when Obito gave him his chakra.
 

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Kakashi only had Obito's Sharingan because Obito transfered his power. That included the Six Path Power he stole from Madara. There is no such things as "Indra Level" in terms of power. We never seen Indra fight. We never seen Ashura's technique either. Obito never had Rinnegan and could not awaken it. So, Kakashi having Rinnegan is a NO.


Sasuke was only able to awaken Rinnegan in one eye because the Sage only gave Sasuke half his power. Hence, why Madara said you who awaken half blah blah... I posses both.



Ao cannot awaken Jougan or Tenseigan using Toneri's or Mitsuki's body. You need to be Hamura's descendant, according to the Movie.
 
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Kakashi only had Obito's Sharingan because Obito transfered his power. That included the Six Path Power he stole from Madara. There is no such things as "Indra Level" in terms of power. We never seen Indra fight. We never seen Ashura's technique either. Obito never had Rinnegan and could not awaken it. So, Kakashi having Rinnegan is a NO.


Sasuke was only able to awaken Rinnegan in one eye because the Sage only gave Sasuke half his power. Hence, why Madara said you who awaken half blah blah... I posses both.



Ao cannot awaken Jougan or Tenseigan using Toneri's or Mitsuki's body. You need to be Hamura's descendant, according to the Movie.
r u watch 1 pice???..
 

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Kakashi only had Obito's Sharingan because Obito transfered his power. That included the Six Path Power he stole from Madara. There is no such things as "Indra Level" in terms of power. We never seen Indra fight. We never seen Ashura's technique either. Obito never had Rinnegan and could not awaken it. So, Kakashi having Rinnegan is a NO.
well, Indra level would be being able to use PS as we have been given those through Madara and Sasuke at the very least.
As well as getting manga panel about it.
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We know that an Uchiha with Mangekyu have the possibility to awaken the Susanoo if they managed to use both of their eyes.
This was seen through Itachi's use and Sasuke's use of Susanoo.

We can say that PS can only be used by a eternal Mangekyu user, in which case Madara and Sasuke. As far as we know, since Indra has very potent chakra, we can say that his Mangekyu is eternal rather than something that gets blinded or hurt if used too much.

Sasuke was only able to awaken Rinnegan in one eye because the Sage only gave Sasuke half his power
Sasuke was given Hashirama cell and chakra by both Hashirama and Kabuto. So it is kind of a given that he was suppose to get Rinnegan. On top of that, is Hagoromo bestowing Sasuke his chakra to awaken his Rinnegan the same thing as Obito giving his chakra to transfer his doujutsu?

Because Obito is incomplete, I referenced him to be a psuedo-RS. He only had 1 Rinnegan and it is not his to boot. Obviously had he received his eye back from Kakashi, it would confirm whether or not an incarnate is the only one that can ascend or it can be anyone from the Uchiha or Senju or Hyuga or "Uzumaki" which does not necessarily need to be an incarnate of the kids of Hamura and Hagoromo.

Ao cannot awaken Jougan or Tenseigan using Toneri's or Mitsuki's body. You need to be Hamura's descendant, according to the Movie.
While Ao himself is not from the Otsutsuki lineage, we can use other people to hypothesize that he can transcend. For example, Shin had a special body to be able to adapt to any genetic material and it becomes his. Danzo managed to implant several Uchiha eyes using Hashirama cells.

Mitsuki is a special case as we probably can say for certain that Orochimaru probably used Shin and Jugo's genetic information to create a body that can be injected with Hashirama and Toneri cells.

If anyone can take an Uchiha or Hyuga eye and use them, any one can be transplanted with Hashirama/Toneri cells, then it is possible that they could upgrade their doujutsu.

I think the incarnation is BS to begin with. It is just that they have a higher disposition to ascend because they are closer but Madara managed to bring Obito into that psuedo RS and he is not even an incarnate. Even should you argue that he was using an incarnate doujutsu, the fact is that there is no clear barrier that you have to be one to ascend. We can get more verification had Obito have both of his eyes rather than using the Rinnegan and Kakashi keeping it to him.
The only thing that we know that really would stop him from awakening a Rinnegan is that his was not an eternal Mangekyu, he did not have his siblings' Mangekyu.

Meaning, should Mitsuki get his hand on a Jougan or Mangekyu or both at the same time, it is possible that he can ascend considering he has the body of Hagoromo's and Hamura's sides.


We can also use the fact that Hanabi's eyes were used for the Tenseigan and it worked. Granted that Madara's original eyes went blind and the one that became Rinnegan is Izuna's. Same for Sasuke in which Itachi's eyes were the one that got the Rinnegan.

Regardless of which eyes, the fact that those eyes (Izuna's, Itachi's, Hanabi's) did not come from the original (Madara, Sasuke, Hinata) and they ascended means that being an incarnate is a BS restriction. It is mostly that they have the higher chance of ascending as their chakra is the most potent since they are Indra's, Asura's and Hamura's kids incarnates.
 

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Really? So how come he was able to use Perfect Susanoo if he wasn't even at Indra level? Or what the hell is even Madara edo level? What does that make him?
You think too little.
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Yeah, we know that Indra incarnates were able to use Perfect Susanoo. Kakashi having been given Obito's RS chakra became an "incarnate" of Obito.

We know he is capable of this since he is at RS incomplete level. He was able to use the interdimensional space where he can talk with Rin and Naruto. Even pulls in Kakashi at his final moment.
He cannot use Planetary devastation and capture all tailed beasts to make Tailed beasts susanoo and use Indra arrow thats why he ain't Indra level he is weaker than edo madara cause he also used Perfect susanoo+ Wood style+ Meteors etc
...As I said you think too much
 

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He cannot use Planetary devastation and capture all tailed beasts to make Tailed beasts susanoo and use Indra arrow thats why he ain't Indra level
Since when did Indra use any of those?
The only confirmed Indra technique is Indra Arrow and Perfect Susanoo.

How about using those mental gymnastics of yours to actually connect the dots on what is plausible and what is not.

Edo Madara is RS level already. Just lacking Rinnegan.

On another note, the reason why you should think about Kakashi being at RS level is because Obito is at that level.

Perfect susanoo+ Wood style+ Meteors
Obito never used any of those and yet he was RS level and no one can disagree with that.

Side Note: Madara using Chibaku Tensei during his Edo phase is BS. If he can use Rinnegan tech, there's no reason to even grab his Rinnegan.

As I said you think too much
You think too little and too much just to prove your case. Indra level but using RS tech? Where'd you get that? Never knew you can use the Paths technique with just Mangekyu or SM alone.

GTFO, blab your mouth with that rude ass attitude again.
 

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Since when did Indra use any of those?
The only confirmed Indra technique is Indra Arrow and Perfect Susanoo.

How about using those mental gymnastics of yours to actually connect the dots on what is plausible and what is not.

Edo Madara is RS level already. Just lacking Rinnegan.

On another note, the reason why you should think about Kakashi being at RS level is because Obito is at that level.



Obito never used any of those and yet he was RS level and no one can disagree with that.

Side Note: Madara using Chibaku Tensei during his Edo phase is BS. If he can use Rinnegan tech, there's no reason to even grab his Rinnegan.



You think too little and too much just to prove your case. Indra level but using RS tech? Where'd you get that? Never knew you can use the Paths technique with just Mangekyu or SM alone.

GTFO, blab your mouth with that rude ass attitude again.
Sasuke used them...He was Rsm Naruto level with capture of tailed beasts in 8 chibaku tensai and with that chakra he made a even bigger susanoo and Naruto matched him with pretha path(Three headed Kurama)...Which is shown to be used By Asura in past Pannels....Donot reply me again I really don't wanna talk to you...Again you're being rude for no reason...You in my ignore list now..
 

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He was Rsm Naruto level with capture of tailed beasts in 8 chibaku tensai and with that chakra he made a even bigger susanoo and Naruto matched him with pretha path(Three headed Kurama)...Which is shown to be used By Asura in past Pannels.
Truly, your mental gymnastics are on par of salamander uchiha's. I just posted it on top of what consisted of Indra's and Asura's powers and you're saying they are RSM level when they are not.

"bigger susanoo"
Even Kurama described the entire thing as the power of Hagoromo and not Indra. Indra never has been able to do that so stop pulling fanfics.

"preta path"
Asura was never shown to use that. His avatar was already that and you are just using Naruto being Asura's incarnate as reference that they are similar when they are not. Same for your "bigger susanoo" Indra RSM power.

Indra and Sasuke were on a higher tier than they are since they were given the sun and moon RSM seals.

Again you're being rude for no reason
Stop victimizing yourself. You are rude first and always and now you are crying because someone is being mean back to you. You're pathetic.
 
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