Yes I like the idea. A small modification though; have levels to this. Like normal members can't take high lvl test such as EMS, MS test etc
Oh yea, I probably should have stated that, but I don't expect the normal members to take EMS/MS tests, or ones of that level, since some senseis aren't even allowed to take those. Those ones would be left to senior senseis who are deemed capable.
Well i think the only way this would work would be similar to the rain test concept in which you are required to pass the test proving your skills in it before you can become a proctor. So if someone for example say broly or toku or whoever has the thirdraikage bio can proctor 3rd raikage tests as they have already shown their understanding and knowledge on the character.
Nah, I disagree with this. Imagine someone who passed a third raikage test proctoring another test for the third raikage bio, what would be the point of the proctor knowing how to pass the raikage test? His main aim should be to use elements which would test the skills and jutsu set of the Third Raikage. If that makes sense.
So, like the old rain training where you could battle a regular member as long as a sensei reads over it? In that case I'd like that idea, but only for the lower power bio's like Hiruko or Mu.
Yea. Also, you can still proctor rain tests so I don't know why you said old rain training. Unless things were done differently back then.
I think the only things that should be left to senior senseis/senseis in general are battle tests which are EMS/MS ranked. Not only that, but it'd also depend on who was attempting to take the test. If it's a mod/ a sensei, then of course it'd only be right for another sensei to do it. This is mainly normal members proctoring the tests of other normal members.
Yes erzo-senpai-whonevertaughtme
i like it, say someone passes a nagato bio, they'd be free to proctor any battle test at or at a lower tier level than nagato. get it? z.z
Yes, but it's a little different to what I had in mind.
I actually personally think this is a really nice idea. I mean why not? It would be quick and easy to find members and there are more then enough members qualified. Some can take specific tests while others might take other type of tests. So people who excel in CQC can do kaguya, raikage, etc. You get the concept.
Also add onto it, how about members who don't want to teach but just do the battle tests? Of course they might be an "normal" member so they might have to go through a couple tests or something? Anyway I like it.
Yeah, good point. I, for example, wouldn't attempt to do a Third Raikage test since I wouldn't like to get too close, so it wouldn't be fair on the person taking the test. Each person would take a test which they're comfortable with.
i like it erzo, just like there is a shishou designation why not give a proctor designation out aswell
When you apply for shishou to vincent you must give him battle threads showing your proficiency as well as show how you'd teach some jutsu.
Similar to that there could be a process by which certain members could attain proctership of specific tests only.
Indeed
I see two problems with that.
One. Many members already have extreme difficulty accepting the decision of official RP mods. Considering the one who is administrating the test has a lot of influence on how the battle will go an thus on the result of the test, I see a potential hazard of complaints again about how something was unfair due to the one administrating the test.
Two. More importantly that argument of that there are people who don't do the sensei test because they don't have the time to be a sensei, but have time to administer battle tests, has an inherent contradiction. If there are actually that many people who could be a sensei, but don't take the test because they don't have time to be one, but do have the time to administer tests, which also would require some kind of test, well then they could just do the sensei test from the get-go. If there really are that many people who don't become sensei because they don't have the time for it, but enough time for tests, well if all those people actually would actually become sensei the individual work load of each sensei should be lessened. If there are enough sensei, the jobs could easily be divided in a group that mainly focuses on tests, while others on training. We wouldn't even need some kind of new testing method.
The only exception I see are sensei who really resigned on their own of being a sensei because they didn't have enough time, but were good at their tasks. Considering they already passed a test to prove themselves and didn't had any problems with the jobs itself, they could be used for testing. However that only applies to a select few former sensei as there are also sensei who lost their title for reasons that made their ability to preform such tasks and their responsibility doubtful. However it's up to Vincent to decide whether he wants that.
I think only a handful actually complain when they don't pass tests. Others take what they can from it and try again. You might see it differently because each complaint would probably come to you, making it seem like there are lots of complaints.
The difference between taking the sensei test and becoming a sensei, and my suggestion is, with my suggestion, a person would proctor tests in a time when they're free and available, whether it'd be their holiday or a break they have from work. Whereas being a sensei requires you to be active and reply to students day in day out. Also, even if we got a massive group of new senseis, I don't think it'd make much of a difference since NB has so many people joining the and all seeking training.
Ok, that's fair, at least one part of my suggestion we agree on. But, not all senseis who stepped down (without being removed) are capable of performing tests, since there are senseis from the old gen who might not be capable. I can think of one example, hence why I make this point.
I see what you mean on your first point. But as we've seen in certain battle tests, whether the tester does good or bad, the testee still has to perform to a certain level. Your point is completely relevant yes, but this is why those that would administer battle tests would be closely monitored so that everyone knows they are competent enough to do so.
As for your second point I disagree. Training students takes up much much much more time, will power, and effort to do than conducting a battle test. Regular members have been conducting rain tests for years and though rain tests aren't up to the same level of difficulty of the toughest battle tests, they have still for the most part been done correctly. But take into consideration all the senpai and sensei who have passed on bad training and methods. And with the number of members who RP steadily growing along with an increased focus on training, the time required for training on both ends (both sensei and student) has been growing greater and greater. On a personal note, I'd find it to be a very easy and an actually enjoyable task to conduct or grade a battle test. On the other hand, training students just isn't for me. Furthermore, judging a fight would be an extremely simple task for me as well. Simply put, its easier to give a good battle test than a good training session.
I agree with your third paragraph.
I agree with Broly's points too.
Cheers.
