[Suggestion] RP - Custom SM

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Kai NB

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I was wondering if there is a way to implement Custom Sage Modes?

Now the current 3 Sage Modes (Toad, Snake, and Hashi's Unique Wood Sage Mode) provided are all very similar. They each give a slightly different boost in stats, and for animal Sage Modes, slight anatomical changes are added.

Because of this, I was wondering if Custom Sage Modes can be added. Similar to how Snake Sage Mode provides for anatomy changes so the user can shut his vision, perhaps a custom Dog Sage Mode can make additional anatomy changes, like sharper nails (like claws), sharper teeth (like fangs), and better nose smelling. I know this is like Inuzuka clan, but it would also give the added benefit of SM stat increases.

I think it's a fair and simple request as it is similar to Custom Mangekyo Sharingan techniques. In that section, you create your own custom MS with a high level Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, and Ethereal Being

Lemme know what you think, but please be respectful =D
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I'd say no, because custom sage modes would be a bit more OP the aspects given can benefit more then you' expct and it'd also allow bios that can't have sage mode have a form of it and that is not a good thing for balance. As for the custom MS users do you mean, like people who have sage mode are the only ones allowed to submit a CSM?
 

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I agree with you. The point about there being custom Mangekyo Sharingan is really solid, I see no reason why they'd deny this.
 

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Hmm, I could support this, unfortunately I don't think Caliburn or any other RP-Mod would. Besides, I think a certain amount of RP members would definitely Mis-use it, If it gets approved.
 

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I think this is legit. As long as people keep the stat increases within reason and balanced and not too drastic of anatomy changes, this is great
 

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Nice suggestion, but in this our current RP system or with our current moderators this is next to impossible.Time will come one day. Be patient. Its also a very solid argument pointing out custom mangekyo sharingan users.
 

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I'd say no, because custom sage modes would be a bit more OP the aspects given can benefit more then you' expct and it'd also allow bios that can't have sage mode have a form of it and that is not a good thing for balance. As for the custom MS users do you mean, like people who have sage mode are the only ones allowed to submit a CSM?

True, hmm. Well, I guess one requirement is to be a master in your current contract summoning ninjutsu and be signed to it obviously.

And for the MS, I mean how Mangekyo Sharingan is a unique ability, yet it gets a custom variant people can do. That's why I think SM users can request it.

The resetriction would probably be that only custom bios can have it, and whatever current restrictions there are with SM, so no EIG along with SM or no KKG with it, etc.

Hmm, I could support this, unfortunately I don't think Caliburn or any other RP-Mod would. Besides, I think a certain amount of RP members would definitely Mis-use it, If it gets approved.

I think it can be regulated fairly well though
 

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Hmm, I could support this, unfortunately I don't think Caliburn or any other RP-Mod would. Besides, I think a certain amount of RP members would definitely Mis-use it, If it gets approved.

The mods still have to approve the Sage Mode. If it can be misused in any way, then the mods will simply decline it. Besides, what even is misusing it? Two people have mentioned that so far, and I'd like to see exactly what you mean by a person would misuse Custom Sage Mode.
 

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True, hmm. Well, I guess one requirement is to be a master in your current contract summoning ninjutsu and be signed to it obviously.

And for the MS, I mean how Mangekyo Sharingan is a unique ability, yet it gets a custom variant people can do. That's why I think SM users can request it.

The resetriction would probably be that only custom bios can have it, and whatever current restrictions there are with SM, so no EIG along with SM or no KKG with it, etc.



I think it can be regulated fairly well though

Fair enough with those restrictions it could work^^
 

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there is one called hawk mode, made ben zenryoku and pervy sage. After that one, they got banned pretty much. I don't see this happening any time soon. Customs MS is different in the fact that only a stupidly small amount of people have MS, while SM is way more accessible. Unless of course you mean a canon custom (lol) SM. Then pretty much no, as it makes no sense since it's not canon and thus custom, falling under the same rules.
 

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The mods still have to approve the Sage Mode. If it can be misused in any way, then the mods will simply decline it. Besides, what even is misusing it? Two people have mentioned that so far, and I'd like to see exactly what you mean by a person would misuse Custom Sage Mode.

there is one called hawk mode, made ben zenryoku and pervy sage. After that one, they got banned pretty much. I don't see this happening any time soon. Customs MS is different in the fact that only a stupidly small amount of people have MS, while SM is way more accessible. Unless of course you mean a canon custom (lol) SM. Then pretty much no, as it makes no sense since it's not canon and thus custom, falling under the same rules.

^^This Right Here
 

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If the issue is restrictions, I'm sure several can be made.

One simply would be being a Sensei, like how MS people need to first be sensei just to take the test

So SM users for customs would have to be sensei, Sage Rank, just to submit or something. How's that? That's limiting it fairly well

Then, how about only those people can teach them, but it'd be like a custom clan sorta, so a lot more people can learn it.

For custom summons, only 6 students can learn it right? Let's make it so only 6 students can learn that Sage Mode?
 

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Yeah, restrictions can easily be made to make only a small few have it, like there is a small group of MS

Sensei status and Sage rank to make is hard enough. Then limiting to only 6 students. Regulations can easily be made to prevent misuse
 

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"I don't see this happening any time soon. Customs MS is different in the fact that only a stupidly small amount of people have MS" to this you mean that if Customs SM was only held by a stupidly small amount of people, it would be just fine?

"while SM is way more accessible", noting that if you have placed restrictions as like the MS, I don't think it would be as 'accessible'.

"there is one called hawk mode, made ben zenryoku and pervy sage.", that was then and this would be now, mods are sure to have learned for that, and should be able to work something than punch everyone who holds hope for it.

"If it can be misused in any way, then the mods will simply decline it.", you don't seem to see both sides, misusing happens when there's no restrictions, trails made before release and miscalculation. With history given about hawks, one should think a way to see this through.
 

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There used to be custom sage modes allowed I thought. I definitely believe custom sage mode should be allowed. Each animal has it's sage more or less and they should be able to teach the user sage mode. We can make custom Mangekyo Sharingan, which is a rip of canon Mangekyo Sharingan. We can make custom jutsu, ripping all different canon/different anime techniques. Why not a custom sage mode? Just make sure it's well restricted which isn't too hard. Plus this is a RP that the RPers need to be interested in to have success. So why not at least give it a try? If it doesn't work just void the custom sage mode and give the user back their CJ slot.
 

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A canon sm would be nice aswell .

Still have to take the test etc just like regular sm

Shark sm for kisame etc blah blah
 

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Indeed. As Wesobi said custom 'Sage Modes' (Modes bound to custom/canon summonings) were once allowed and thrived for some time. A Mode based on the Dog summoning exists, actually, in Kirabi's 'Fang Mode.' Very few, if any, of these Modes were based on Natural Energy as Sage mode is, but they did exist.

Personally I think your suggestion has some merit. There are very few active Sage Mode users and I would venture that the possibility of a Custom Sage Mode would kindle the role-players' interest in the field. Of course, the Modes would have to be based on custom summonings and creating them would be restricted to people who posses Sage Mode... and probably restricted even further to those who have possessed Sage Mode for a given amount of time.
Still, I find the suggestion intriguing. Yes, it would certainly put a little extra work on the Moderators' plate, but I support it regardless.
 

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If the issue is restrictions, I'm sure several can be made.

One simply would be being a Sensei, like how MS people need to first be sensei just to take the test

So SM users for customs would have to be sensei, Sage Rank, just to submit or something. How's that? That's limiting it fairly well

Then, how about only those people can teach them, but it'd be like a custom clan sorta, so a lot more people can learn it.

For custom summons, only 6 students can learn it right? Let's make it so only 6 students can learn that Sage Mode?

Yeah, restrictions can easily be made to make only a small few have it, like there is a small group of MS

Sensei status and Sage rank to make is hard enough. Then limiting to only 6 students. Regulations can easily be made to prevent misuse


The fact that you say restrictions can easily be made, means you don't really have an idea how to balance things out. You can't just stick "has to be a sensei and sage rank" or something like that on everything. >_>


Personally I'm really not for the idea. Apart from that, it would cut even more of our time into working on this instead of other things we have planned.
 

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The fact that you say restrictions can easily be made, means you don't really have an idea how to balance things out. You can't just stick "has to be a sensei and sage rank" or something like that on everything. >_>


Personally I'm really not for the idea. Apart from that, it would cut even more of our time into working on this instead of other things we have planned.

Even without having experienced the work that comes with being a Moderator on this site I'd still like to make the argument that scrapping an idea simply because it is too time-consuming is a very unfortunate approach to new ideas in general. The RP community at large would not object to giving a helping hand, I'm sure.
Off-topic things aside; as a... veteran, I suppose, of this site I'd also argue that you can, indeed, balance things out by slapping 'has to be a Sensei' on something. Sure, some will hate it, but if, in your opinion, it's either that or not doing it at all I'd prefer the former.
 

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The fact that you say restrictions can easily be made, means you don't really have an idea how to balance things out. You can't just stick "has to be a sensei and sage rank" or something like that on everything. >_>


Personally I'm really not for the idea. Apart from that, it would cut even more of our time into working on this instead of other things we have planned.
Seems like it's working well enough for Sound Release, Mangekyo, Custom Mangekyo, Madara, Obito, Hashirama, Orochimaru, Minato, Naruto, normal Sage Mode, Kabuto, Nagato, Six Paths of Pein *voice trails off*

Abuse and misuse comes when there's a lack of restrictions. Simply have that there needs to be permission here, a rank there, a test maybe right over here, but not too far to the left, that's where I keep my dresses, and it'd work as fine as everything else that's here.
 
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