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You associate terms like sadomasochist with SS without even knowing their meaning and any relation if any to the pairing and link me to dictionaries?lel
Sadomasochism is willingly putting yourself into situations where another one (with a personal tendency for violence) is being violent on you.
Pretty much what Sakura was with Sasuke before 699 (forces herself onto him, while perfectly aware of his predictably violent reactions), and what Naruto WOULD BE in NaruSaku.
NaruHina is the only pairing out of the 'BIG THREE' that is NOT based around violence BETWEEN the couple.
 

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Sadomasochism is willingly putting yourself into situations where another one (with a personal tendency for violence) is being violent on you.
Pretty much what Sakura was with Sasuke before 699 (forces herself onto him, while perfectly aware of his predictably violent reactions), and what Naruto WOULD BE in NaruSaku.
NaruHina is the only pairing out of the 'BIG THREE' that is NOT based around violence BETWEEN the couple.

And this is where the whole message which this series was giving about bonds and forgiveness went down the drain

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And this is where the whole message which this series was giving about bonds and forgiveness went down the drain
You can only blame Kishi for writing it this way.
Not me for pointing out the obvious.
 

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Sadomasochism is willingly putting yourself into situations where another one (with a personal tendency for violence) is being violent on you.
Pretty much what Sakura was with Sasuke before 699 (forces herself onto him, while perfectly aware of his predictably violent reactions), and what Naruto WOULD BE in NaruSaku.
NaruHina is the only pairing out of the 'BIG THREE' that is NOT based around violence BETWEEN the couple.

Do you honestly think after chapter 698 and 699 that Sasuke would be violent towards Sakura?

If so then you missed the whole message this series was giving about bonds and forgiveness, and I think he was trying to say the same thing here, correct me if I am wrong:

And this is where the whole message which this series was giving about bonds and forgiveness went down the drain

I mean just look at Sasuke's face in 698-699 and his speech in those same chapters, he is not hurting anyone anymore, he went on a road to redemption, to see the world in a different light.
 

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Do you honestly think after chapter 698 and 699 that Sasuke would be violent towards Sakura?

If so then you missed the whole message this series was giving about bonds and forgiveness, and I think he was trying to say the same thing here, correct me if I am wrong:
Which letters of "BEFORE 699" couldn't you read???
My point is that Sakura kept being a masochistic Sasuke-fangirl even BEFORE 699, whereas Hinata has mentioned believable REASONS for her falling in love with Naruto as far back as 80/98.
 

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Which letters of "BEFORE 699" couldn't you read???
My point is that Sakura kept being a masochistic Sasuke-fangirl even BEFORE 699, whereas Hinata has mentioned believable REASONS for her falling in love with Naruto as far back as 80/98.
she was not a fan girl like she was in Part 1 beginning after that FoD scene and Kakashi described her love as on a completely different level than before

You should do a Google Search on love does not need a reason.Sometimes it doesnt even IRL
 

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she was not a fan girl and Kakashi described her love as on a completely different level than before
Which WOULD be perfect, if NOT for the fact that she openly tells NOT HAVING ANY REASONS BEHIND IT.
"Just loving somebody" is tantamount to "being a brainless idiot who follows the popular trend, in this case started by Ino, ever since YEARS ago".
And Kishi made every effort to SUPPORT this point.
Are you REALLY that dumb to NOT see my point here???
 

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Which WOULD be perfect, if NOT for the fact that she openly tells NOT HAVING ANY REASONS BEHIND IT.
"Just loving somebody" is tantamount to "being a brainless idiot who follows the popular trend, in this case started by Ino, ever since YEARS ago".

Are you REALLY that dumb to NOT see my point here???

Read my updated post

You should do a Google Search on love does not need a reason.Sometimes it doesnt even IRL

And Kishi made every effort to SUPPORT this point.

Hilarous because most of the canon pairings dont have a reason Lol
 

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You should do a Google Search on love does not need a reason.Sometimes it doesnt even IRL
Hilarous because most of the canon pairings dont have a reason Lol
Who said that I care for ANY other pairing besides NaruHina - which HAS plenty of reasons???
Also, that quote is simply FALSE.
It just bastardizes what we CALL "reason".
We love our parents "for no reason" - seemingly forgetting that THEM BEING OUR PARENTS, IS already a REASON.
You love a person due to living for a long time with them - which is a REASON again.
And so on, and so forth.
The point is, Sakura MAKES AN EFFORT to CLAIM "she has no reasons to love Sasuke" - it's not ME inferring this, it's HER OWN WORDS.
Look, IF NOT for Hinata being exactly the opposite way (with EXTENSIVE reasons for HER love) - I might be much less touchy about Sakura.
But all this Hinata-hating AND Sakura-wanking AT ONCE, easily brings up this topic of "how Hinata is a realistic person with a worthy love, whereas Sakura is a failure of a character".
 

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Which letters of "BEFORE 699" couldn't you read???
My point is that Sakura kept being a masochistic Sasuke-fangirl even BEFORE 699, whereas Hinata has mentioned believable REASONS for her falling in love with Naruto as far back as 80/98.

Well that's because before 699 (698 actually) Sasuke was clouded with darkness, he wasn't himself, he wasn't an Uchiha that loves more than anyone else, he wasn't this guy:

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Because he experienced trauma and lost his loved ones, his love turned into hate.

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But underneath that hate the old Sasuke was still there, and Sakura knew that, she wasn't just going back to a person who beat her, she kept trying to save that person and bring him back to his goodness because she loves him.

She might have been helpless but she never wavered and it worked out for her in the end, don't turn that against her.

He came back:

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Well that's because before 699 (698 actually) Sasuke was clouded with darkness, he wasn't himself, he wasn't an Uchiha that loves more than anyone else, he wasn't this guy:

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Because he experienced trauma and lost his loved ones, his love turned into hate.

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But underneath that hate the old Sasuke was still there, and Sakura knew that, she wasn't just going back to a person who beat her, she kept trying to save that person and bring him back to his goodness because she loves him.

She might have been helpless but she never wavered and it worked out for her in the end, don't turn that against her.

He came back:

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You just had to side post the cute kid Sasuke pics alongside the 699 smiling one :')

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Sadomasochism is willingly putting yourself into situations where another one (with a personal tendency for violence) is being violent on you.
Pretty much what Sakura was with Sasuke before 699 (forces herself onto him, while perfectly aware of his predictably violent reactions), and what Naruto WOULD BE in NaruSaku.
NaruHina is the only pairing out of the 'BIG THREE' that is NOT based around violence BETWEEN the couple.

Sasuke sincerely apologized to Sakura when she was healing him. You don't apologize to someone you don't care about. If her opinion of him didn't matter to him he wouldn't have bothered apologizing. You apologize for other people and not for yourself. You forgive for yourself and not for other people.
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Sasuke decided to make a redemption trip to atone his sins before he come back and made a children with Sakura.

Before this he didn't feel he has atoned enough or pure enough to be with Sakura
Because this he didn't allow sakura go together with him. He didn't want to envolve Sakura in his past mistakes.
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Sasuke is a redeemed person who is very repented of his errors
He probably try to be the best Husband to Sakura to compensate his past sins with her. No other clan treasured love as much as Uchiha.
Nobody is more important in Sasuke's life now than him daughter and Wife.

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Naruto simply ignored hinata and loved other girl unlike Sasuke who was in a Dark place during the entire shippuden and was obsessed with revenge to accept Sakura.


But in the very end Sasuke has used the ultimate canon expression of love with Sakura and promissed to come back after his trip to start a relationship and a family with her . He only used this gesture with Sakura and thanked only her.

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While the biggest moment between Naruto and Hinata is Hand Holding.
Hand Holding is not special.He held hands with the rest of K11 and the alliance too.
After this NH mysteriously appeared in epilogue with children without any previous interaction after 615 (i'm only considering manga not filler movie)
 
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