[Discussion] Roger, Prime WB, and Prime Garp vs 5 admirals

[Hexuze]

Cutting Kizaru doesn't imply that he hasn't gotten weaker, that must simply mean that in his prime he would have done better in Kizaru. Im not debating for some massive jump though. Enough to where he could Mid-Diff someone that he could High Diff while old.

Ofc in his prime he would of done a lot better. The whole concept of an admiral getting mid diff'd sounds absurd. The WB vs Akainu fight wasn't high diff., it was more of a extreme diff. fight. WB suffered life threatening injuries (got half his face blown off and a huge hole in his torso).

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Well, yeah besides COC . I'm talking about CoA specifically since we don't know COC's ability in combat yet or the full extent of it. All we know is that it can knock out opponents. My point with CoO still stands, Rayleigh has been retired for years and was still able to use CoO effectively against an admiral level fighter (being able to predict to his moves and where he'll move next). Rayleigh never complained about his haki being off point, it was more that he wanted to fight Kizaru in his prime so he can move more freely without getting fatigued so quickly. (implying it's more of an issue with being old than his haki)

They didn't harm Akainu and why do you keep saying Akainu went FBH against WB? Neither of us can prove that since Oda never had a visual representation of CoA at the time.

Rayleigh wasn't sick, and being sick should be able to lower willpower. The fact that Marco commented that WB could have dodged Squado's attack if he was in his prime should make it obvious that WB's sickness weakened his CoO significantly.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Ofc in his prime he would of done a lot better. The whole concept of an admiral getting mid diff'd sounds absurd. The WB vs Akainu fight wasn't high diff., it was more of a extreme diff. fight. WB suffered life threatening injuries (got half his face blown off and a huge hole in his torso).

So you don't think Roger can mid diff an admiral, not even the weaker ones?

 

[Hexuze]

So you don't think Roger can mid diff an admiral, not even the weaker ones?

Well, which weaker ones? Anyways, no. Even against the weakest admiral, it'd the lowest level of high diff. IMO. I don't think Roger/WB had it that easy in their primes where they can mid diff. an admiral.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Well, which weaker ones? Anyways, no. Even against the weakest admiral, it'd the lowest level of high diff. IMO. I don't think Roger/WB had it that easy in their primes where they can mid diff. an admiral.

Rayleigh said he would have been able to hold off Kizaru, Kuma, and Sentomaru in his prime, so he should be able to beat an admiral high diff. Roger can high diff Prime Rayleigh, so he should be able to mid diff an admiral.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

To match 5 Admirals you need at least four guys of that Caliber...

Add Sengoku and it's actually worth debating over.

You seriously understimate the Admirals if you think all five cannot defeat three enemies of any kind

 

[Kagustuchi]

Ofc in his prime he would of done a lot better. The whole concept of an admiral getting mid diff'd sounds absurd. The WB vs Akainu fight wasn't high diff., it was more of a extreme diff. fight. WB suffered life threatening injuries (got half his face blown off and a huge hole in his torso).

I wasn't saying he would get mid diff'd but mearly to explain my point. Though I do believe that Prime Whitebeard could at least Mid-High Diff one of the Admirals. Roger at Mid-Diff, although that's just a pure guess on my part.

 

[bajram]

3 Top-tiers arent ever beating 5 top-tiers, that's just wrong in any way u look at it, no 3 man team are beating 5 admirals at the same time, adding one more fighter around this caliber then the fight may go to the favor of the geezers otherwise the 5 admirals take it.

 

[BLACKBOLT]

The 5 admirals wins.

 

[AmaniPaz]

Smh.....

 

[sravan]

quantity will not be effective if you have better quality.
I will go with team 1
I laugh when someone says roger can't mid diff an admiral.He is the PK.And in his generation there are sengoku,garp,shiki,kong and others who are definitely stronger to the current fighters.
I dont know how people are thinking that WB can't beat an admiral mid diff.
He is the strongest man.He was sick and near to death at MF.Being sick means both your physical/mental abilities will be poor.
if that sick old WB put that much of fight at MF i dont know why it is so hard for others to believe he can take down any admiral at his prime.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

The 5 admirals win. Hell, even with 4 admirals they win.

 

[Mephew D Kensei]

A fight like this wont b like MF style it will b more on the caliber of Punk Hazard and when u got 5 admirals going all out vs some shortmanned team i have to go with the admirals here even if its the Legend 3. Tge admirals may not b legend lvl but they can hold their own quite nicely 1v1 vs these guys and with admiral lvl assist then they have a chance at victory.

Had Rayleigh or Shiki been included then i wld say Legends High diff.

Also i know pple r all haki far exceeds all df's but when u got 5df's of the admirals' caliber the physics sh!t storm u get from that can give an edge to the df users.

 

[Hexuze]

Rayleigh said he would have been able to hold off Kizaru, Kuma, and Sentomaru in his prime, so he should be able to beat an admiral high diff. Roger can high diff Prime Rayleigh, so he should be able to mid diff an admiral.

He said that he would of been able to help them out more. He never said he can take out Kizaru, Kuma & Sentomaru at the same time.