Kamui Sama
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manga intel and the duo is limited to their feats up to Enies lobby. Can Lucci take both of them down?
[Discussion] Rob Lucci vs. Zoro and Sanji
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ZoroXTashigi
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It's hard ... if Zoro and Sanji can bypass Lucci's douriki, they will win high diff. If not Lucci will be the winner.
Walk in the park for Lucci, he is twice as strong as the opponent the both fought to the skin of their teeth.
You can't add up their strength like it's a number. They don't become twice as strong, they're just 2 people who still are half as strong as Lucci.
You can't add up their strength like it's a number. They don't become twice as strong, they're just 2 people who still are half as strong as Lucci.
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strength doesnt add but given the right team work it can multiply. Zoro and sanji could given the right tatics very easily win. But they wouldnt cause they conflict as people.
Ideally they win low diff.
Its like a queen fighting a rook and a knight. The queen is and will always be superior but the two pieces can do things together that a queen could never.
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Sanji and Zoro are slightly stronger than Wolfy and Square Giraffe
Wolfy and Square Giraffe are around 2000 Doriko
Together, they are stronger than Lucci
Sanji and Zoro should take this
ZoroXTashigi
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Nah .. it is different, Luffy > Lucci and Luffy < Zoro + Sanji, because actually Zoro and Sanji can hurt Luffy, but Zoro and Sanji will lose to Lucci until it shown they can bypass 4000 douriki.
-For the Zoro part and His level. First the difference between kaku and Lucci isn't that big. Kaku was an exceptional swordsman, so good that even zoro had a hard time against him even in swordsmanship. I don't think his doriki aka physical strength, shows his actual level. Moreover, Zoro is stronger than him and the amount of difficulty he faced against kaku was considerably less than what Luffy had against Lucci. That kinda gives the idea as how he would fare against a stronger opponent who is Lucci, that is with more difficulty but not certain defeat. I won't be too sure about the result but I can give it to Lucci with the same difficulty he gave Luffy. Depends
-Now Sanji faced Jyabura. Jyabura is definitely below Kaku. Kaku had an additional skill of swordsmanship and he utilized his DF better. Now to cover that up, its so clear that Sanji defeated Jyabura with less difficulty than Zoro defeated Kaku. With his DJ he easily overpowered Jyabura. Even managed to defeat him in a situation which was favourable for Jyabura in mid air. To me its clear that Sanji is Considerably above Jyabura, so I won't just say that Sanji is as strong as Jyabura and then compare him to Lucci. No, he is above that Level. Lucci vs Sanji alone is itself Atleast a high difficulty challenge for Lucci, possibly towards the higher end.
That being said, if both gang up on Lucci. They would definitely win but I'd say more so like high end of the Mid difficulty. Of maybe high diff(lower end) Atmost.
-Now Sanji faced Jyabura. Jyabura is definitely below Kaku. Kaku had an additional skill of swordsmanship and he utilized his DF better. Now to cover that up, its so clear that Sanji defeated Jyabura with less difficulty than Zoro defeated Kaku. With his DJ he easily overpowered Jyabura. Even managed to defeat him in a situation which was favourable for Jyabura in mid air. To me its clear that Sanji is Considerably above Jyabura, so I won't just say that Sanji is as strong as Jyabura and then compare him to Lucci. No, he is above that Level. Lucci vs Sanji alone is itself Atleast a high difficulty challenge for Lucci, possibly towards the higher end.
That being said, if both gang up on Lucci. They would definitely win but I'd say more so like high end of the Mid difficulty. Of maybe high diff(lower end) Atmost.
ZoroXTashigi
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If I recall correctly, douriki mean physical power. If he have double Jyabura douriki, that mean his tekkai is double Jyabura power. Luffy can beat Lucci because Luffy's Gigant Pistol have more destructive power than Asura and DJ in my eyes, so Luffy can bypass Lucci's tekkai. The issue during Zoro Vs Kaku is how zoro can bypass Kaku's tekkai, not how Zoro can become better swordsman than him.
Well Sanji defeated Jyabura easily, so hypothetically Sanjis douriki I guess would be higher, add that in with Zoros and Lucci gets overwhelmed imo. You bring up some good points though.