Rin's Death, Obito's Intentions, Sasuke's Role and Madara's Deception Explanation

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I understand that Obito wanted Sasuke and his group to be his servants in capturing the remaining Jinchurikis but is that all there is to it? what is this mention of Obito about synchronizing the Gedo Mazo with Sasuke? could he have intended Sasuke and not Madara to be the Jinchuriki of the Juubi? the counter argument for this is that if Obito really intend to make Sasuke the host of the Ten Tails then why did he not bring Sasuke along with him during the Juubi's revival? even if Sasuke escaped from Zetsu then Obito would've been alerted by the Zetsu clones of his escape if Sasuke was indeed truly vital to the Juubi's revival, but a counter-argument for this is that Madara was revived unexpectedly by Kabuto which could have jeopardized Obito's original plans and had abandon Sasuke on his own. If we assume that Obito intended Sasuke as the Jinchuriki of the Juubi, then it could only mean one thing: Obito had no intention of reviving Madara because it was Madara's original plan to become the Jinchuriki himself.

But what could have driven Obito to deviate from Madara's original plan, why didn't he have the intention to revive him? I think this is the reason: It is my suspicion that after Madara's death. "Tobi" assuming Madara's persona, gained control of the Mist Village, and in doing so he must have found out something about the circumstances of Rin's death, that Madara could've planned her demise all along by using mist ninjas as a way to lure Obito into his service, that could also explain why Obito said to Kakashi "You Let Rin Die" when it was shown that Kakashi killed her himself. Perhaps Obito knew Madara's involvement in her death and that Rin (whose body was "modified) was a sort of involuntary spy, a Manchurian candidate or a walking time bomb and blamed Kakashi for not being strong enough to protect Rin from what was done to her rather than because Kakashi truly intended to kill her because she was a traitor or she was evil.


So in conclusion:

1. Obito didn't want to revive Madara and wanted to use Sasuke instead as the Juubi's host

2. Obito found out Madara was behind Rin's death all along

3. Obito did not blame Kakashi for killing Rin but rather blamed him for his weakness in protecting Rin from something Madara and the Mist Ninjas did to her. hence the words "You Let Rin Die"
 
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The link between Madara and the Mist village is very nicely put

Well done
 

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I agree with you, Obito had no intentions of reviving Madara, thats why he nearly shat himself when Kabuto showed him he was in possession of the Corpse, however the only reason i think Obito had for not reviving Madara is that he just didn't see the need for him. I also believe that Rin's death was staged by Madara as you said.
 

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I agree with you, Obito had no intentions of reviving Madara, thats why he nearly shat himself when Kabuto showed him he was in possession of the Corpse, however the only reason i think Obito had for not reviving Madara is that he just didn't see the need for him.

Possible, but I also doubt if Obito is suitable as the Juubi's Jinchuriki since half of his body is made from artificial substance, I think a full living body is needed to become a Jinchuriki so both he and Madara could not become its' host, hence the necessity for Obito to get Sasuke on his side.
 

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I like the third. Due to the dialogue it makes it seem like Kakashi didn't kill her, leading me to believe Obito knows something we don't. Nice thread, + rep
 

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I liked this and it makes a lot of sense, even explains Obito's animosity towards Madara.
 

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This thread....is.....amazing
 

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Hmm... maybe. A good explanation of the story with Sasuke.
 

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Good theory, would certainly explain a great deal.
 

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Why wouldn't obito just get or fool nagato into reviving rin with rinnegan in the first place?
 

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Why wouldn't obito just get or fool nagato into reviving rin with rinnegan in the first place?

I think his personal intentions of resurrecting Rin expanded to a more universal holistic idealism that instead of just wanting his personal happiness he also wanted "what was best" for the whole world, to be under the Mugen Tsukoyomi. That means he shared Madara's views of the world without necessarily trusting the man, an idea is different from the person afterall.
 
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I agree with you, Obito had no intentions of reviving Madara, thats why he nearly shat himself when Kabuto showed him he was in possession of the Corpse, however the only reason i think Obito had for not reviving Madara is that he just didn't see the need for him. I also believe that Rin's death was staged by Madara as you said.

Obito can't poop =P
 

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I agree with you, Obito had no intentions of reviving Madara, thats why he nearly shat himself when Kabuto showed him he was in possession of the Corpse, however the only reason i think Obito had for not reviving Madara is that he just didn't see the need for him. I also believe that Rin's death was staged by Madara as you said.

This^. Also I believe Obito wanted to be the Juubi's host so he could control the illusory world he dreams of. I think he will be Madara's downfall or vise versa.
 

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This^. Also I believe Obito wanted to be the Juubi's host so he could control the illusory world he dreams of. I think he will be Madara's downfall or vise versa.

I don't think it's been outwardly explained yet but I believe Obito is not a suitable candidate to become the Juubi's Jinchuriki, half of him is artificial, substance made from Hashirama's Living Clone in the same league as the White Zetsus. So that alone may invalidate his suitability to become the Ten-Tail's host.
 
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