[Theory] Rinnengan and Sharingan

[ANiMUS]

Sasuke must have the other abilities of Rinnegan in order to be a competitive force against Naruto

There has to be more to his teleporting ability, which will enhance the usefulness in battle

All around nice read, thanks for sharing !!​

Thnx

IMO Sasuke's teleportation is a power derived from it being similar to the 9T Sharingan so Sasuke is switching objects just like Kaguya switches dimensions, but it is as u say, there has to be more to it.

At least IMO

Nice work Shiro.​

Thanks

 

[Glad Of War]

First Logical Sasuke base thread ave seen all day..

 

[Sugiyama]

It was an awesome read. I liked how well it was put together.

I think, like Sasuke himself stated in the manga, that he was still adjusting the long of the previous battle against Kaguya to the abilities of Rinnegan and learning how to use them effectively, hence why he showcased such a limited use of his S/T ability (limited range +a cool down). So it isn't unlikely that he'll show us more of it. Rather he should improve his use of it (increasing his range and maybe having a shorter time of cool down .

As for his Susano'o use; i really think that there's nothing preventing him from covering it with Enton. He already showcased such a feat back in the kage summit.. so what would stop him now? Well, unless Kishi has another opinion lel.

I'm not sure if he'll be able to use In'youton though; but i'll be pretty content if he did.

Btw, I still wonder what jutsu Hashi has given him...maybe it'll play a role in the upcoming battle. hmm.

 

[Kαmi]

Great analysis man. Never realized that scan with Obito and Konan before greatly resembles Sasuke's own Sharingan but i agree with your comparison of doujutsus, seems like Sasuke is in b/t that Rinnegan and Juubi eye form, meaning I think he also has other jutsus to show. You mentioning his genjutsu and his Rinnegan shift is proof that his eye is different and that him using a Deva technique shows that his potential is very high right now.

I also liked your mention of the Rinnegan and Susano'o. It's clear that the Rinnegan and Susano'o can be used in conjunction with one another. It'd be nice to see his Susano'o use one technique while Sasuke himself uses another. Not only is Enton a possibility but we should see some high level Six Path techniques thanks to his PS using your same reasoning which makes perfect sense. It's be nice to see his Susano'o with a combination of Asura, that would be something

Inyouton is a little harder to imagine what can be done with but someone mentioned the Bijuus and killing them with that earlier and I liked that concept. I remember before the Sage came into play, people thought that Sasuke will be able to create illusions that can be seen other than just genjutsu. Like maybe Sasuke projects an image that looks like him to deceive Naruto, in a similar since of Danzo's Izanagi but better.

Like I said, great analysis and nothing you said was far fetched. Great thread, I think you can look forward to seeing some of your theory or at least a part of it come true in the manga. Also, don't forget about Hashirama's jutsu! I'm hoping that'll come into play soon enough

 

[Xlad]

Ah, I remember you mentioning the Rinnegan and Susanoo conjunction to me in one of your post. One of the things he could do is using Space/Time in conjunction with Susanoo and Inferno Style. Basically he can teleport Perfect Susanoo or shift places with a Enton barrier.

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So the combination spoken of will definitely happen. It's a really nice read.

 

[HarrisonX]

Nice theory. It made lots of sense. GOOD WORK! But I don't know why you kept on doing Rinnengan when it's the Rinnegan...

 

[King Of Pop]

Nice work shiro, awesome read. Sasuke seems pretty confident of beating Naruto and us witnessing how much powerful Naruto is then it surely means that sasukes got some pretty op techs and combinations upcoming. Hopefully they don't talk for too long, the fight needs to begin.

 

[bashkim]

Nice theory and good job.
Yeah Sasuke has very good skills, but there are nothing that Naruto can not counter.

 

[flyboyissac]

I don't agree with nearly anything reason?

Sasuke won't show to much of new abilities since he lost a huge powerup all that Senjustu Charka went back to Hagoromo or all went into chibaku tensei to seal Kaguya.

Deva path
Right now Sasuke don't have the Charka to handle so many different powers Deva path is most likely unique that only pain can use. Every rinnegan user had they own special power. Kishi moto so far seems he will now reuse old powers (Besides chibaku tensei).

To everyone who seen Sasuke rinnegan and how kishi moto made it look like a normal rinnegan with special props.
Sasuke would need yang powers to preform anything like that he would need bjiuu power.

Juubi=Full yin-yang and all elements

Full kurama=Yin-yang
Other bjiuus= Elements of the Juubi

10 bjiuu=Unknown

Let's say his rinnegan is related to the third eye this would mean Sasuke eye is incomplete and missing a balance of powers.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Interesting theory,I believe Sasuke's Rinnegan has more things to show aside from the S/T technique.It's a shame Kishi only showed off Naruto's power during the Kaguya fight.

 

[ANiMUS]

I don't agree with nearly anything reason?

Sasuke won't show to much of new abilities since he lost a huge powerup all that Senjustu Charka went back to Hagoromo or all went into chibaku tensei to seal Kaguya.

Deva path
Right now Sasuke don't have the Charka to handle so many different powers Deva path is most likely unique that only pain can use. Every rinnegan user had they own special power. Kishi moto so far seems he will now reuse old powers (Besides chibaku tensei).

To everyone who seen Sasuke rinnegan and how kishi moto made it look like a normal rinnegan with special props.
Sasuke would need yang powers to preform anything like that he would need bjiuu power.

Juubi=Full yin-yang and all elements

Full kurama=Yin-yang
Other bjiuus= Elements of the Juubi

10 bjiuu=Unknown

Let's say his rinnegan is related to the third eye this would mean Sasuke eye is incomplete and missing a balance of powers.

U really r underestimating Sasuke dude. -__-

Pain is simply someone using Madara's eyes nothing about his techniques will be original.
Nagato's Rinnengan is Madara's Rinnengan so any power that Nagato had Madara should as well, and Madara awakened Rinnengan thanks to achieving Hagoromo's chakra so Madara should have everything Hagoromo had as well. At least as far as rinnengan is concerned.

Also, Sasuke didn't lose the senjutsu chakra. He just lost the jutsu that was put on his hand.

 

[Flaming Amaterasu]

Very nice theory, a very logical and possible one indeed.

 

[Behemoth55]

I didn't read everything, but I will do it later. However, the Rinnegan is the peak of the Sharingan(declared in chapter 560). Hagoromos Rinnegan may not hold the same affinity to genjutsu like Kaguyas but it still holds the basic powers as the Sharingan-according to Kabuto and Madara. That includes the Sharingans basic ability to cast illusions.
At the current state Sasuke may have the advantage in terms of genjutsu compared to the Rinnegan without Tomoe, but he will not achieve its true powers while having just one Rinnegan. Sasukes eye is a Rinnegan and not Kaguyas red Sharingan with nine Tomoe which she had on the forehead. Therfore, we can't compare Sasukes eye directly with Kaguyas.

In terms of strength the double Rinnegan is much better than any any Dōjutsu-related power. It can even bring back the dead. With two eyes every jutsu will be more effective. That should include also Rinne Tensei. That's why I think it may be the best.
I could be wrong though.
Anyway, the question is:

Will Sasuke achieve a second Rinnegan? Will it's appearance change? Or will it stay that way and he will get nothing more, but I truly doubt that.

Regarding Inyōton: Hagoromos chakra is the combination of In and Yō= InYō(Yin-Yang). The Samsara eye does base on that chakra. Means: Sasuke does already have the YYR(Yin Yang Release).
Anyway, I don't think we will ever get an answer regarding this since the author is concerned about how to create more asspulls and more questions.

 

[ANiMUS]

I didn't read everything, but I will do it later. However, the Rinnegan is the peak of the Sharingan(declared in chapter 560). Hagoromos Rinnegan may not hold the same affinity to genjutsu like Kaguyas but it still holds the basic powers as the Sharingan-according to Kabuto and Madara. That includes the Sharingans basic ability to cast illusions.
At the current state Sasuke may have the advantage in terms of genjutsu compared to the Rinnegan without Tomoe, but he will not achieve its true powers while having just one Rinnegan. Sasukes eye is a Rinnegan and not Kaguyas red Sharingan with nine Tomoe which she had on the forehead. Therfore, we can't compare Sasukes eye directly with Kaguyas.

In terms of strength the double Rinnegan is much better than any any Dōjutsu-related power. It can even bring back the dead. With two eyes every jutsu will be more effective. That should include also Rinne Tensei. That's why I think it may be the best.
I could be wrong though.
Anyway, the question is:

Will Sasuke achieve a second Rinnegan? Will it's appearance change? Or will it stay that way and he will get nothing more, but I truly doubt that.

Regarding Inyōton: Hagoromos chakra is the combination of In and Yō= InYō(Yin-Yang). The Samsara eye does base on that chakra. Means: Sasuke does already have the YYR(Yin Yang Release).
Anyway, I don't think we will ever get an answer regarding this since the author is concerned about how to create more asspulls and more questions.

@bold 1: But the 9 Tomoe sharingan is >Rinnengan
The 9 Tomoe sharingan is able to switch between and control entire dimensions and cast genjutsu on an entire planet. Since 9T Sharingan> Rinnengan, Sasuke's Rinnengan which closely resembles the 9T Sharingan has the possiblity to be > Rinnegan

 

[uzumakinaruto389]

Nice read. +rep and thanked . Sorry for the late reply, found this in your sig xD Can you make one like this for naruto too?

 

[OWanime]

I think the evidence is good and sasuke has more power to show off once he figures his hidden abilities xd

 

[Honord Sage]

Equals?I think not Sasuke admitted Naruto is holding back and Sasuke is not and yet Naruto has countered every move by Sasuke.

 

[MWQ]

This fight will play out just like the fight in part 1, but just on a grander scale. Once sasuke gets beaten up by Naruto, his other rennigan will awaken, just like in their previous fight.

Considering what the fight will be, this chapter had absolutely no objective but to delay.

 

[ANiMUS]

This fight will play out just like the fight in part 1, but just on a grander scale. Once sasuke gets beaten up by Naruto, his other rennigan will awaken, just like in their previous fight.

Considering what the fight will be, this chapter had absolutely no objective but to delay.

The Last spoiler confirm he keeps the one rinnegan

Equals?I think not Sasuke admitted Naruto is holding back and Sasuke is not and yet Naruto has countered every move by Sasuke.

Drugs r bad ok.

 

[MWQ]

The Last spoiler confirm he keeps the one rinnegan

Maybe he can deactivate it, otherwise this fight won't be too serious because if he has chakra that can awaken one rennigan then soon the other eye should turn into it.