Rinnegan

[Markovko]

There is no real difference. Just like mangekyo sharingan, rinnegan has different forms with unique abilities. Sasuke having 1 rinnegan with tomoe is probably just for sake of diversity and cosmetics (because he looks better with 1 cool looking rinnegan than 2 chameleon looking eyes).

And rinnegan users can use their mangekyo abilities (in Madara's case, even without eyes once he has unlocked them previously). Nagato could not use Madara's MS techniques because he never did awaken and unlock them.

 

[Alien X]

Because he needs cool down time after travelling through dimensions which is a feat the standard Rinnegan can't do.

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Your post count!....it's over 8000??!!

 

[baul 24]

dual rinnegan is something u get when u have both yin and yang powers in balance / resonance between them awakens the dual rinnegan no wonder why madara took that much time to awake it and sasuke's rinnegan was due to sage's power directly given to him in artificial means rather than awakening in original style with both incarnate powers and i believe the tomoe in sasuke's rinnegan was due to excess of yin power within him his own and sage's. the only explaination of his single rinnegan is due to sage giving half of his power which has forcefully evolved his EMS and given him the rinnegan since sage has given only given his yin half so the excess of yin power encompassed as tomoes in his rinnegan in only single eye while madara has both hashirama and his powers both yin and yang so it awakened its power in both of his eyes and balancing yin and yang given him perfect rinnegan like sage's and if tomoe rinnegan was a powerful one we could have seen it in sage's eyes since he was the original and only one who mastered rinnegan completely so i believe that madara's rinnegan was powerful than sasuke's with absolute balance between yin and yang.

 

[WalksInShadows]

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"Tomoe Rinnegan > Dual Rinnegan"

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Leaves out Madara was enhanced by Juubi chakra making your point fallacious since I am pretty sure the OP means the eye at base :|

it's all the same color since Sasuke got an already existing eye upgraded by a JJ.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

Leaves out Madara was enhanced by Juubi chakra making your point fallacious since I am pretty sure the OP means the eye at base :|

Sasuke rinnegan is never on base since he has half of hagoromo chakra.

Rinnegan doesnt have strength it depends how strong user and his chakra is and what buff user have to make his eyes power stronger.

 

[ANiMUS]

Sasuke rinnegan is never on base since he has half of hagoromo chakra.

Rinnegan doesnt have strength it depends how strong user and his chakra is and what buff user have to make his eyes power stronger.

Fine. The fact is though that you can't compare the worth of two different vehicles when they are running on two different fuels

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it's all the same color since Sasuke got an already existing eye upgraded by a JJ.

Hagoromo wasn't a Juubi Jin at the time though. (Former)
The power of JJs that enhances ocular power is RSM
And isn't Sasuke rather new to Rinnegan. :| Even if he states that Kakashi should be able to use it Obito's statement alone (one with first hand experience) proves Sasuke wrong

 

[Dantee]

Lol Kakashshit fans think he can handle Sasukes rinnegan.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Sasuke's rinnegan needs recharge to fully utilise its abilities and he's yet to demonstrate all six path jutsus.

 

[ANiMUS]

dual rinnegan is something u get when u have both yin and yang powers in balance / resonance between them awakens the dual rinnegan no wonder why madara took that much time to awake it and sasuke's rinnegan was due to sage's power directly given to him in artificial means rather than awakening in original style with both incarnate powers and i believe the tomoe in sasuke's rinnegan was due to excess of yin power within him his own and sage's. the only explaination of his single rinnegan is due to sage giving half of his power which has forcefully evolved his EMS and given him the rinnegan since sage has given only given his yin half so the excess of yin power encompassed as tomoes in his rinnegan in only single eye while madara has both hashirama and his powers both yin and yang so it awakened its power in both of his eyes and balancing yin and yang given him perfect rinnegan like sage's and if tomoe rinnegan was a powerful one we could have seen it in sage's eyes since he was the original and only one who mastered rinnegan completely so i believe that madara's rinnegan was powerful than sasuke's with absolute balance between yin and yang.

The fact that Sasuke's rinnegan at base is an ordinary Rinnegan kinda disproves that. If it were merely thanks to Yin that Sasuke attained his Rinnegan then his eye would revert to sharingan in cooldown because the cooldown puts both eyes in base form. (Losing Yin power in both eyes)

According to your theory the step down from losing Yin should be Sharingan so since Sasuke's left eye at base is Rinnegan it means that Rinnegan wasn't part of Sharingan progression.

DB states that Hagoromo gave Sasuke the power of Rinnegan. Sasuke's EMS was then compounded with that power to make the tomoe Rinnegan

 

[Dantee]

Sasuke's rinnegan needs recharge to fully utilise its abilities and he's yet to demonstrate all six path jutsus.

Thats only for Ameno and Limbo, Shinra tensei also have limits.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Thats only for Ameno and Limbo, Shinra tensei also have limits.

Do not compare Nagato's borrowed rinnegan with Madara and Sasuke's rinnegans.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

It's the same. There is no way I'm saying that a tomoed Rinnegan is stronger than a dual regular Rinnegan, especially when Hagoromoo is the original Rinnegan user with basic dual once.
And this is coming from a Sasuke fan that can care much less for Madara.

 

[ANiMUS]

Do not compare Nagato's borrowed rinnegan with Madara and Sasuke's rinnegans.

Actually it's full abilities go beyond what's been shown with Rinnegan since the main reason for cool down is his searching and traveling through dimensions. Something Madara has not shown to be capable of. Btw Madara hasn't shown all six paths either :|

 

[00Rinne]

I would say that the dual Rinne has less cooldown time when it comes to techs' than the tomoe Rinne. Which is why i would give the dual Rinne the advantage.

Sasuke tomoe Rinne has way too many back draws an uses way too much power to pull off tech's because the sharingan is not unlimited an doesn't match with the Rinne if they're syced.

It's proven almost everytime Sasuke uses his Rinne powers, he has to wait awhile before using the Rinne tech's again.

But Madara was JJ with dual Rinne which is kinda unfair cause one would need senjutsu to fight a JJ which Sasuke lacks.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Actually it's full abilities go beyond what's been shown with Rinnegan

Proof please.

since the main reason for cool down is his searching and traveling through dimensions. Something Madara has not shown to be capable of.

Maybe, but again that hasn't been proved to be the exact reason.

Btw Madara hasn't shown all six paths either :|

Nagato did and those are Madara's eyes....

 

[NarutoX28]

I would say that the dual Rinne has less cooldown time when it comes to techs' than the tomoe Rinne. Which is why i would give the dual Rinne the advantage.

Sasuke tomoe Rinne has way too many back draws an uses way too much power to pull off tech's because the sharingan is not unlimited an doesn't match with the Rinne if they're syced.

It's proven almost everytime Sasuke uses his Rinne powers, he has to wait awhile before using the Rinne tech's again.

But Madara was JJ with dual Rinne which is kinda unfair cause one would need senjutsu to fight a JJ which Sasuke lacks.

The only drawbacks for the Tomoe Rinnegan are traveling through Kaguya's dimension, something Sasuke doesn't do in combat. Even then, he's not on cooldown as he can still use Rinnegan techniques such as Ameno like he did in Gaiden.

Sasuke also has Senjutsu as Hagoromo's Chakra does contain some Senjutsu.

 

[ANiMUS]

Proof please.



Maybe, but again that hasn't been proved to be the exact reason.



Nagato did and those are Madara's eyes....

Rinnegan Genjutsu that resembles Kaguya with an outer path that has shown to be superior to standard rinnegan :|

It's the only thing that actually causes his eyes to regress and he even stated that as the reason.

And Obito stated that he can use all paths with one eye. :sdo: maybe Madara just isn't that skilled

Anyway the DB states all paths are just part of one Technique so if you display one path you have all =D

 

[King Of Pop]

for the ones mentioning coldown, sasuke only has to recharge when he dimension ports which is something the standard rinnegan cant even do and even then, he could still use his rinnegan as against shin. if doesnt use dimension porting, then his rinnegan wont need any recharge as he has no issues using the paths.

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IDC if he's your fav, if he couldn't take on Madara by himself, his eye is not enough.
Go ahead and argue.

what attrocious logic. madara had extra power in the form of being a jj, so its not because of his rinnegan sasuke couldnt take him alone.

 

[00Rinne]

The only drawbacks for the Tomoe Rinnegan are traveling through Kaguya's dimension, something Sasuke doesn't do in combat. Even then, he's not on cooldown as he can still use Rinnegan techniques such as Ameno like he did in Gaiden.

Sasuke also has Senjutsu as Hagoromo's Chakra does contain some Senjutsu.

Sasuke doesn't have senjutsu unless fused with Naruto or Jugo who does. Sasuke has 6 paths not senjtsu. Madara states that Naruto had senjutsu an Sasuke had gained 6 paths after meeting Hogo which Madara had both.

Juubito Madara nor Kaguya Sasuke had major effects on because the lack of senjutsu an the times he did have effect is because either Naruto or Jugo was there with senjutsu.

An Ameno does have a short cooldown because he can't or hasn't been shown using it like let say DBZ teleporters do.

 

[baul 24]

The fact that Sasuke's rinnegan at base is an ordinary Rinnegan kinda disproves that. If it were merely thanks to Yin that Sasuke attained his Rinnegan then his eye would revert to sharingan in cooldown because the cooldown puts both eyes in base form. (Losing Yin power in both eyes)

According to your theory the step down from losing Yin should be Sharingan so since Sasuke's left eye at base is Rinnegan it means that Rinnegan wasn't part of Sharingan progression.

DB states that Hagoromo gave Sasuke the power of Rinnegan. Sasuke's EMS was then compounded with that power to make the tomoe Rinnegan

answer is simple mate transformation of the eye is permanent of regardless of who it is or powerlevel and pls note that according to the databook The Rinnegan grants the wielder a wide range of abilities without any known chakra requirement to keep the eyes active unlike sharingan which needs chakra but at negligible amount to keep it active.