Rinnegan

[MrLukyso]

Only Madara can do it, because he's the only one that actually awakened it with mixing the Senju and Uchiha. U_U

Sasuke is partly like Obito and Nagato, he was gifted with the Eye, the process was not "Natural".

Transcendence - Hagoromo ? He never even had Sharingan, it was all about that Rinnegan life, I think Sharingan began with Indra.

Madara can do it, but only him, although it denies your statement. U_U Peace.

 

[KidGamer65]

Argument can go either way. Madara with his real eyes never deactivated. Sasuke never deactivated. Hagoromo hasn't shown to. Argument can be made for both, but I doubt we'll get an answer about this.

It can't.

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That is the Sharingan.

 

[SenseiSama]

Hiruzen soloes.

Your sig is very eye catching

 

[Sentinel of Light Style]

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Yeah, how about no?



I'm just going to assume that he can deactivate it given his status and given he's the first wielder.

Looks more like he's gon blind to me.

 

[KidGamer65]

Looks more like he's gon blind to me.

Is that not his Sharingan? Whether or not his eyesight is fading doesn't matter. Btw, it isn't. His Sharingan is probably like that since he just had the juubi and the Mazo ripped from his body.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Argument can go either way. Madara with his real eyes never deactivated. Sasuke never deactivated. Hagoromo hasn't shown to. Argument can be made for both, but I doubt we'll get an answer about this.

Do you think Hagoromo had normal eyes to begin with?

I think his rinnegan is his normal eye or base eye.

 

[Holy God]

Is that not his Sharingan? Whether or not his eyesight is fading doesn't matter. Btw, it isn't. His Sharingan is probably like that since he just had the juubi and the Mazo ripped from his body.

That's not his Sharingan. He looks blind and as we all know, blind eyes are represented by a circle of fade marks. As you can see in the top right image, it's completely faded, showing that there is no design. Even on the previous page he had to guess it was Hasirama based on his voice.

 

[KidGamer65]

That's not his Sharingan. He looks blind and as we all know, blind eyes are represented by a circle of fade marks. As you can see in the top right image, it's completely faded, showing that there is no design. Even on the previous page he had to guess it was Hasirama based on his voice.

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Smh. That is Sharingan. Those are tomoe.

 

[Transcendence]

It can't.

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That is the Sharingan.

That doesn't prove that he can turn it on and off with his real eyes. Didn't he also lose the "Hashi-boob" in the same scans in that chapter? That would mean he doesn't have Ashura's chakra anymore so how would he maintain the Rin'negan? It's only logical for his eyes to revert to what they were when he didn't have both chakras.

 

[MrLukyso]

That doesn't prove that he can turn it on and off with his real eyes. Didn't he also lose the "Hashi-boob" in the same scans in that chapter? That would mean he doesn't have Ashura's chakra anymore so how would he maintain the Rin'negan? It's only logical for his eyes to revert to what they were when he didn't have both chakras.

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Madara awakened Rinnegan without "Hashi Boob", it doesn't mean he doesn't have Senju Chakra anymore.

 

[KidGamer65]

That doesn't prove that he can turn it on and off with his real eyes

Lmao, obviously it does as those are his real eyes and it's in Sharingan, not Rinnegan. Read below.

Didn't he also lose the "Hashi-boob" in the same scans in that chapter? That would mean he doesn't have Ashura's chakra anymore so how would he maintain the Rin'negan? It's only logical for his eyes to revert to what they were when he didn't have both chakras.

1. Getting the chakra awakens the Rinnegan. Losing the chakra isn't going to make the eye vanish as it's already been awakened.

2. That was clearly a drawing error. It was fixed in Volume 71. Not to mention the thought that all of Hashirama's genetic material somehow vanished from his body cause he lost the Juubi doesn't even make sense. He has the Hashi boob and he has Hagoromo's chakra.

And then there's the above post. Madara didn't have the Hashi boob when he was alive, yet still had Rinnegan. Hashirama and Naruto saw the Hashi boob in Chapter 657 when Madara was revived, and he said that this was the doing of Kabuto (didn't refer to him by name though) but that reviving was definitely according to his plan.

So no. Rinnegan can be turned on and off.

 

[MrLukyso]

Lmao, obviously it does as those are his real eyes and it's in Sharingan, not Rinnegan. Read below.




1. Getting the chakra awakens the Rinnegan. Losing the chakra isn't going to make the eye vanish as it's already been awakened.

2. That was clearly a drawing error. It was fixed in Volume 71. Not to mention the thought that all of Hashirama's genetic material somehow vanished from his body cause he lost the Juubi doesn't even make sense. He has the Hashi boob and he has Hagoromo's chakra.

And then there's the above post. Madara didn't have the Hashi boob when he was alive, yet still had Rinnegan. Hashirama and Naruto saw the Hashi boob in Chapter 657 when Madara was revived, and he said that this was the doing of Kabuto (didn't refer to him by name though) but that reviving was definitely according to his plan.

So no. Rinnegan can be turned on and off.

/Thread.

Madara awakened the Rinnegan without the Hashi Boob as I said, he just had his Chakra. U_U

 

[Holy God]

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Smh. That is Sharingan. Those are tomoe.

Those are the details of his faded eye. There's a third line coming out to the right, so I supposed that's a tomoe too? Not to mention the one you pointed out on the right is far too close to the edge to have been one.

EDIT: There's also the fact we've always seen a dying Uchiha do so with fading sight. Itachi died looking blind, and so did Sasuke after Madara defeated him.

 

[KidGamer65]

Those are the details of his faded eye. There's a third line coming out to the right, so I supposed that's a tomoe too? Not to mention the one you pointed out on the right is far too close to the edge to have been one.

EDIT: There's also the fact we've always seen a dying Uchiha do so with fading sight. Itachi died looking blind, and so did Sasuke after Madara defeated him.

What in the world are you talking about? There is no third line. I literally circled everything. There's the middle of the eye, the ring where the tomoe are located, and then there's nothing but whiteness. "details of his faded eye"? Dafuq are you even talking about? Please stop making excuses. Those are tomoe, that is Sharingan.

 

[Holy God]

What in the world are you talking about? There is no third line. I literally circled everything. There's the middle of the eye, the ring where the tomoe are located, and then there's nothing but whiteness. "details of his faded eye"? Dafuq are you even talking about? Please stop making excuses. Those are tomoe, that is Sharingan.

Above the "tomoe" you circled to the right, there is an extra line protruding near it. I agree that the Rinnegan is switchable, but Madara did not have his Sharingan active at his time of death. What dying man has the energy to do that?

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There is clearly three components. The iris, your "tomoe", and finally, between that and the large end of the eye, another lining detail. Of course though you couldn't register that as a simply eye detail because it'd mess up your argument.

 

[KidGamer65]

Above the "tomoe" you circled to the right, there is an extra line protruding near it. I agree that the Rinnegan is switchable, but Madara did not have his Sharingan active at his time of death. What dying man has the energy to do that?

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There is clearly three components. The iris, your "tomoe", and finally, between that and the large end of the eye, another lining detail. Of course though you couldn't register that as a simply eye detail because it'd mess up your argument.

Lmao. This is getting ridiculous. I suggest we look at the scan, correctly this time.

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I don't register it as an eye detail because anyone who doesn't have piss poor eyesight knows what that is. The red box is the center of the Sharingan. The black arrow is the ring around the center where the tomoe are attached. The red arrow points towards the tomoe, and the purple box is the edge of the Sharingan eye.

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There is no third ring. What are you even looking at? Lmao.

What kind of eye detail w/ no Dojutsu active would Madara have anyway? Uchiha eyes are solid black. No detail whatsoever. Stop grasping at straws. It's getting ridiculous.

 

[SenseiSama]

When Madara died his Rinnegan reverted to 3-Tomoe Sharingan.

Why mention Obito and Nagato when they are borrowers of the eye? It's a rule that they can't deactivate it. Madara never did because he was always in battle during the War Arc, and it doesn't make sense to downgrade from Rinnegan to EMS, especially once he became the Juubi Jin and gained his other eye back in his real body.

Rinnegan can be deactivated by the original owner, but Sasuke's is a special case for some odd reason. Maybe he didn't awaken it and Hagoromo gave it to him, but obviously not in the same sense that Madara gave Nagato his eyes.

The Rinnegan is like the Byakugan it can't be deactivated, Hagoromo was born with it. The reason Sasuke has tomoe Rinnegan is for that exact reason, reverting back to MS is impossible so you either have Rinnegan or Tomoe Rinnegan.

 

[KidGamer65]

The Rinnegan is like the Byakugan it can't be deactivated, Hagoromo was born with it. The reason Sasuke has tomoe Rinnegan is for that exact reason, reverting back to MS is impossible so you either have Rinnegan or Tomoe Rinnegan.

I literally just posted a scan of Dying Madara w/ Sharingan active like, 3 times now.

 

[Holy God]

Lmao. This is getting ridiculous. I suggest we look at the scan, correctly this time.

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I don't register it as an eye detail because anyone who doesn't have piss poor eyesight knows what that is. The red box is the center of the Sharingan. The black arrow is the ring around the center where the tomoe are attached. The red arrow points towards the tomoe, and the purple box is the edge of the Sharingan eye.

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There is no third ring. What are you even looking at? Lmao.

What kind of eye detail w/ no Dojutsu active would Madara have anyway? Uchiha eyes are solid black. No detail whatsoever. Stop grasping at straws. It's getting ridiculous.

This may be the first time you've made me laugh. What your red arrow points to is what I was talking about. I could see if you thought your blue arrow pointed at a tomoe, but to say that the red arrow is one was what got me. Madara's Sharingan consists of three tomoe. No tomoe goes down as if it could point at to where you showed, and the top tomoe would not be visible for even a bit to show. Maybe you should be the one looking correctly.

And yes, Uchiha's eyes are pitch black, but eyes of those dying turn more grey the closer they get, which is signified by a white eye with detail. Madara was even surprised when Hashirama came to talk to him. Why? Most likely because he couldn't see well and had to rely on his vocal recogniziton.

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[SenseiSama]

I literally just posted a scan of Dying Madara w/ Sharingan active like, 3 times now.

That's not a Sharingan though, it look like normal pupil shapes Kishi often draws on the Byakugan

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