Rinnegan!

[Endles Waltz]

That's not correct at all. The Uchiha's awaken the Rinnegan, by mixing their power with Ashura's. The Ashura's get the Rinnegan by mixing their powers with Indra's (by getting the Sharingan).

Ashura's can't awaken Rinnegan, they have no special eyes, only Indra's can, don't make assumptions.

The fact that you are saying that Ashura's need to take an Indra's eye proves this.

 

[lndra]

Ashura's can't awaken Rinnegan, they have no special eyes, only Indra's can, don't make assumptions.

The fact that you are saying that Ashura's need to take an Indra's eye proves this.

Endles learn how to use common sense for once.

Uchiha's can't awaken the Rinnegan, they don't have the required chakra, only by mixing both Indra/Ashura's chakra, don't make assumptions.

An Uchiha will never evolve the Sharingan into the Rinnegan without an Senju, an Senju will never awaken the Rinnegan without an Uchiha.

Just because they do not have eyes does not mean they cannot awaken the Rinnegan, they would need help, just like the former Uchiha.

Sorry but you seem to have forgotten something:

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His MS had the unique design.

 

[minamoto]

Nagato says hi

Give a Senju some Uchiha eyes and it's a good game.


To be fair, only Uchiha's knew how to activate it aside from Hashirama (I believe he was given a hint). I believe they would of activated it through getting the Sharingan.

sasuke's rinnegan was a free powerup....Madara worked hard to obtain rinnegan

 

[Endles Waltz]

Endles learn how to use common sense for once.

Uchiha's can't awaken the Rinnegan, they don't have the required chakra, only by mixing both Indra/Ashura's chakra, don't make assumptions.

I am not making any assumptions, I know that they need Ashura's chakra to awaken the Rinnegan. Yang chakra, which Ashura possesses, to be precise.

An Uchiha will never evolve the Sharingan into the Rinnegan without an Senju, an Senju will never awaken the Rinnegan without an Uchiha.

An Uchiha can evolve his Sharingan into a Rinnegan either with the help of a Senju, or the Sage himself.

A Senju will never awaken the Rinnegan, period.

Just because they do not have eyes does not mean they cannot awaken the Rinnegan, they would need help, just like the former Uchiha.

Actually it does, it's exactly that, they do not posses Doujutsu, they do not have the Yin/Ocular affinity.

Sorry but you seem to have forgotten something:

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His MS had the unique design.

lol, this is irrelevant to our current discussion, it just says that Indra was a genius and Ashura was useless.

 

[ROHAN]

Unfortunately, in order for Senjus to awaken Rinnegan, they will need the Uchiha's Sharingan. You are forgetting that there is a two-way exchange in either case.

 

[Dantee]

Hagos chakra is needed. Same for RSM.

 

[Aznkidd]

Only uchihas have shown the ability to awaken rinnegan, sooo.

Because no senju got implanted cell.....

 

[Izou Xaxa]

Its actually Madaras own power he developed

 

[lndra]

I am not making any assumptions, I know that they need Ashura's chakra to awaken the Rinnegan. Yang chakra, which Ashura possesses, to be precise.

Mhm, and it is not precisely Yang chakra.

An Uchiha can evolve his Sharingan into a Rinnegan either with the help of a Senju, or the Sage himself.

No, only a Uchiha who is a transmigrante can receive a Rinnegan from the Sage. Not to mention Obito himself was implanted with Hashirama cells yet he never activated the Rinnegan.

A Senju will never awaken the Rinnegan, period.

That's where you are wrong, again.

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Neither Uchiha nor Senju can awaken the Rinnegan, period. Only an Uchiha who receives the power of a Senju can awaken the Rinnegan. Only an Senju who receives the power of a Uchiha can awaken the Rinnegan.

Exactly how hard is that to understand? It is almost as if you are implying that Uchiha's are the ones born with the Rinnegan trait. That itself is ridiculous. When Hagoromo's powers split into two: Ashura, and Indra aka the Uchiha and the Senju.

Actually it does, it's exactly that, they do not posses Doujutsu, they do not have the Yin/Ocular affinity.

That's exactly what the Senju are doing for Uchiha, now place the Uchiha in for the Senju. Yin/Ocular affinity is gained, or the Uchiha case Yang/Body affinity is gained to get the Sage's power.

this is irrelevant to our current discussion, it just says that Indra was a genius and Ashura was useless.

For the sole fact that neither can activate or attain the Rinnegan with each-other. It is not onesided in which the Rinnegan is only for the Uchiha.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

An Uchiha can evolve his Sharingan into a Rinnegan either with the help of a Senju, or the Sage himself.

Which is the exact same thing as not having the eye in order to unlock it.Lol

And correction, Only indra Reincarnation.

 

[ROHAN]

^ The Rinnegan is a Yin/Doujutsu power. It's opposite is Yang, the life forces.

 

[Endles Waltz]

No, only a Uchiha who is a transmigrante can receive a Rinnegan from the Sage.

I agree.

That's where you are wrong, again.

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Neither Uchiha nor Senju can awaken the Rinnegan, period. Only an Uchiha who receives the power of a Senju can awaken the Rinnegan. Only an Senju who receives the power of a Uchiha can awaken the Rinnegan.

Exactly how hard is that to understand? It is almost as if you are implying that Uchiha's are the ones born with the Rinnegan. That itself is ridiculous. When Hagoromo's powers split into two: Ashura, and Indra aka the Uchiha and the Senju.

I am not wrong, Madara was talking to Obito, another Uchiha.

An Uchiha transmigrant can evolve his Sharingan into a Rinnegan with Senju DNA (or directly from the Sage), A Senju transmigrant cannot do the same.

The Uchiha's are not born with Rinnegan, but they are born with powerful eyes, with the potential to unlock Sharingan, and if an Uchiha transmigrant receives the Yang portion of the Sage's chakra, their Sharingan evolves into a Rinnegan.

That's exactly what the Senju are doing for Uchiha, now place the Uchiha in for the Senju. Yin/Ocular affinity is gained, or the Uchiha case Yang/Body affinity is gained to get the Sage's power.

A Senju does not have and can never have the Yin/Ocular affinity, he is born with the Yang/Body affinity. Same thing vice-versa for the Uchiha, they can receive Yang Chakra but they will never have the affinity, that is why they awaken Rinnegan and not Rikudou Sage Mode.

For the sole fact that neither can activate or attain the Rinnegan with each-other. It is not onesided in which the Rinnegan is only for the Uchiha.

Only Uchiha have the potential to attain Rinnegan, this is a manga fact.

Which is the exact same thing as not having the eye in order to unlock it.Lol

And correction, Only indra Reincarnation.

Correct, only Indra transmigrants.

The Rinnegan is an Yin/Ocular ability, only Indra transmigrants (who are Uchiha) with Sharingan can awaken Rinnegan if they receive Yang Chakra.

An Ashura transmigrant will awaken RSM if he receives Yin Chakra.

 

[lndra]

I am not wrong, Madara was talking to Obito, another Uchiha.

Yes, because he was explaining the fundamentals of how he activated the Rinnegan to Obito. That does not change what was said in the Uchiha Tablet.

An Uchiha transmigrant can evolve his Sharingan into a Rinnegan with Senju DNA (or directly from the Sage), A Senju transmigrant cannot do the same.

Of course they cannot, until they get the Sharingan. There is no line of separation when it comes to Rinnegan activation between them both. It is almost as if you are saying the only reason for Ashura/Senju's is to be used to activate the Rinnegan itself, when you need both parts to solve the equation. If you understand that much, then it should plainly obvious that a Senju can awaken the Rinnegan through Uchiha DNA of the Dojutsu.

The Uchiha's are not born with Rinnegan, but they are born with powerful eyes, with the potential to unlock Sharingan, and if an Uchiha transmigrant receives the Yang portion of the Sage's chakra, their Sharingan evolves into a Rinnegan.

I edited it out and said "having the trait to receive the Rinnegan"

A Senju does not have and can never have the Yin/Ocular affinity, he is born with the Yang/Body affinity. Same thing vice-versa for the Uchiha, they can receive Yang Chakra but they will never have the affinity, that is why they awaken Rinnegan and not Rikudou Sage Mode.

That is flawed when the Rinnegan needs both Yin/Yang for activation, and Sasuke/Naruto both have Yin/Yang affinities. They are only proficient in one category. A Senju can receive the Yin/Ocular affinity, the same way an Uchiha receives the Yang/Body affinity.

Only Uchiha have the potential to attain Rinnegan, this is a manga fact.

Why don't you show me a Senju trying to activate the Rinnegan by implanting an Uchiha's eyes and waiting a lifetime? If not, then it just shows that Uchiha's were the only one's to try. Only Madara succeeded too the normal way.

 

[King Of Pop]

Sasuke's Rinnegan was just superior. Does not mean he would beat Nagato if they both had the same level of Rinnegan.

logic is two ways. give sasuke the same amount of time for him to master his rinnegan and he would shit on nagato. barely an hour and hes used CT (which puts nagatos to shame), preta and outer. theres no comparison. nagato only had rinnegan going for him which is why he utilized it to the fullest unlike sasuke or madara who have a far wider arsenal aside rinnegan. still only the owners can bring can out the true power of the rinnegan fact and nagato is not an owner.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

I agree.




I am not wrong, Madara was talking to Obito, another Uchiha.

An Uchiha transmigrant can evolve his Sharingan into a Rinnegan with Senju DNA (or directly from the Sage), A Senju transmigrant cannot do the same.

The Uchiha's are not born with Rinnegan, but they are born with powerful eyes, with the potential to unlock Sharingan, and if an Uchiha transmigrant receives the Yang portion of the Sage's chakra, their Sharingan evolves into a Rinnegan.



A Senju does not have and can never have the Yin/Ocular affinity, he is born with the Yang/Body affinity. Same thing vice-versa for the Uchiha, they can receive Yang Chakra but they will never have the affinity, that is why they awaken Rinnegan and not Rikudou Sage Mode.



Only Uchiha have the potential to attain Rinnegan, this is a manga fact.



Correct, only Indra transmigrants.

The Rinnegan is an Yin/Ocular ability, only Indra transmigrants (who are Uchiha) with Sharingan can awaken Rinnegan if they receive Yang Chakra.

An Ashura transmigrant will awaken RSM if he receives Yin Chakra.

They can't unlock it with only their eyes that's the point, Indra transmigrants needs Ashura's chakra in order to unlock it which means that It isn't their.....

lol even the sage admitted that at some point he gave all he had to ashura which means, one of the previous ashura transmigrants had both rinnegan and RSM Lol which certainly confirms that it isn't an Indra transmigrants only doujustu.

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Thid panel can mean 2 things:
1-hago was really speaking about the powers.
2- he was speaking about leaving his hopes of achieving peace to whom.
And even in the second case there's possibility of ashura having rinnegan becasue when you leave your hopes to someone you're more likely to also give him/her all of your powers.

 

[ROHAN]

The Senjus can awaken Rinnegan, it's just that it's obscure.

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That symbol represents the Rinnegan. It is Body affiliated in stark contrast to the Rinnegan Doujutsu.

As far as I can tell, the Senjus don't even need the Sharingan, they just need Indra or Hagoromo's chakra to get that.

Of course, if a Senju wants to awaken the Rinnegan Doujutsu, then they will have to steal an Uchiha's EMS as that is Eye affiliated.

The Senjus's Rinnegan is Body-affiliated showing dominance of Yang.

The Uchihas's Rinnegan is Eye-affiliated showing dominance of Yin.

 

[Endles Waltz]

Yes, because he was explaining the fundamentals of how he activated the Rinnegan to Obito. That does not change what was said in the Uchiha Tablet.


Of course they cannot, until they get the Sharingan. There is no line of separation when it comes to Rinnegan activation between them both. It is almost as if you are saying the only reason for Ashura/Senju's is to be used to activate the Rinnegan itself, when you need both parts to solve the equation. If you understand that much, then it should plainly obvious that a Senju can awaken the Rinnegan through Uchiha DNA of the Dojutsu.


I edited it out and said "having the trait to receive the Rinnegan"





That is flawed when the Rinnegan needs both Yin/Yang for activation, and Sasuke/Naruto both have Yin/Yang affinities. They are only proficient in one category. A Senju can receive the Yin/Ocular affinity, the same way an Uchiha receives the Yang/Body affinity.

Naruto being an Ashura transmigrant has the Yang affinity, hence RSM.*

Sasuke and Madara being Indra transmigrants have the Yin affinity, hence Rinnegan.*

Why don't you show me a Senju trying to activate the Rinnegan by implanting an Uchiha's eyes and waiting a lifetime? If not, then it just shows that Uchiha's were the only one's to try. Only Madara succeeded too the normal way.

Good, you just confirmed that a Senju activating Rinnegan was never shown in the manga and is just your own assumption.

Going by manga facts, only Uchihas awakened the Rinnegan, I explained the reason why in my previous posts, and above.^*

 

[Endles Waltz]

They can't unlock it with only their eyes that's the point, Indra transmigrants needs Ashura's chakra in order to unlock it which means that It isn't their.....

lol even the sage admitted that at some point he gave all he had to ashura which means, one of the previous ashura transmigrants had both rinnegan and RSM Lol which certainly confirms that it isn't an Indra transmigrants only doujustu.

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They can't unlock it on their own, but they are the only ones that can.

We never saw any Ashura transmigrant with Rinnegan, baseless assumptions hold no value.

 

[lndra]

logic is two ways. give sasuke the same amount of time for him to master his rinnegan and he would shit on nagato. barely an hour and hes used CT (which puts nagatos to shame), preta and outer. theres no comparison. nagato only had rinnegan going for him which is why he utilized it to the fullest unlike sasuke or madara who have a far wider arsenal aside rinnegan. still only the owners can bring can out the true power of the rinnegan fact and nagato is not an owner.

That's exactly how it works both ways, I never said otherwise.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

They can't unlock it on their own, but they are the only ones that can.

We never saw any Ashura transmigrant with Rinnegan, baseless assumptions hold no value.

It's not an assumption it's hagos words so stop denying Lol.

By your logic sasuke can't use all rinnegan power because he simply didn't showcase them..