Rinnegan vs Sage Mode

[Dantee]

That is where your wrong.

Tobirama is the representationg of the TRUE senju branch. Hashirama is a SPECIAL case. He represents the WILL of the RIkudou.. and the Senju, but he doesn't represent the TRUE senju branch. Mokuton isn't in the Senju branch. Mokuton already excluded Hashirama from the whole Senju and Uchiha crap.

Senju DNa = TObirama's dna

Hashirama's dna = Senju dna + Mokuton.


"was" doesn't = "is". Hashirama "is" the god of shinobi, even after his death. Hiruzen stopped being the god of shinobi even when he was alive. Meaning he wasn't the god of shinobi. There are only 2 people who died as being hailed Shinobi no Kami.

Hashirama represents no such thing, the only one who can represent the will of the Rikudou is Naruto. Hashirama is more similar to the Younger Son. He defeated the Elder Son Madara and spreaded his ideals to the world. As you can see it had no type of long term effect because he died war still continued. Hashirama is part of the senju which even the Younger Son made.

Even for a short time Hiruzen was hailed at such with no sage mode/ or rinnegan so what are you saying.

 

[Frikid]

this is funny lol .
I disagree .

 

[Trilla]

You've misinterpreted the whole manga, if you wana bring plausible threads out, go and re-read the manga and then come back with your theories.

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

Bro noone said Rikudou has Sage Mode..

He must have sage mode! >:I he must! He is a sage

 

[Minator93]

Imo

A Master of SM [Body of Sage] >> Master of Rinnegan [Sage's Doujutsu].

 

[7PathSage]

Nagato didn't lose to naruto, he sacrificed himself for the village and narutos will

He lost all his paths, used all his best Jutsus and was near death. Naruto stood in front of him unscathed and felt safe enough to have a conversation. Nagato was going to die and had given up, he invited Naruto to kill him. The only thing stopping Naruto from killing him was Jiraiya's words, when Naruto explained Nagato turned over a new leaf. Nagato was physically and mentally defeated. GG

OP*- I agree that they are counters for one another but I dont thing one is necessarily stronger than the other.

 

[KingHashirama]

Hashirama represents no such thing, the only one who can represent the will of the Rikudou is Naruto. Hashirama is more similar to the Younger Son. He defeated the Elder Son Madara and spreaded his ideals to the world. As you can see it had no type of long term effect because he died war still continued. Hashirama is part of the senju which even the Younger Son made.

Even for a short time Hiruzen was hailed at such with no sage mode/ or rinnegan so what are you saying.

Hashirama represents no such thing? Wtfh. Senju represent the Sage's will....Naruto himself represents HASHIRAMA. Naruto will also fight Sasuke.... so what are you gonna say then? Naruto doesn't represent the Sage's will cause he fought Sasuke?

Rikudou also spread his ideas to the world.... It had no long term effect? Then I guess Rikudou didn't also, since war still continued after his death =]. Rikudou is also part of Senju..... its a manga fact....

As I said, I am talking about the people who remained God Of shinobi.... not people who were once hailed for a short time.

He must have sage mode! >:I he must! He is a sage

He is the sage of 6 PATHS of rinnegan.

 

[kunde]

He must have sage mode! >:I he must! He is a sage

hey it can be because of his mastery over all elements and paths of rinnegan right? .

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

Hashirama represents no such thing? Wtfh. Senju represent the Sage's will....Naruto himself represents HASHIRAMA. Naruto will also fight Sasuke.... so what are you gonna say then? Naruto doesn't represent the Sage's will cause he fought Sasuke?

Rikudou also spread his ideas to the world.... It had no long term effect? Then I guess Rikudou didn't also, since war still continued after his death =]. Rikudou is also part of Senju..... its a manga fact....

As I said, I am talking about the people who remained God Of shinobi.... not people who were once hailed for a short time.




He is the sage of 6 PATHS of rinnegan.

its a Sad world you live you in :I

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

hey it can be because of his mastery over all elements and paths of rinnegan right? .

Maybe... maybe

 

[Sennin of Logic]

You know something I just realized this right now.

Sage mode has been used to face against the rinnegan, TWICE now. Weird coincidence? nah.
I believe they counter each other. While the Rinnegan represents the eyes, Sage mode represents the body.

Hence , furthermore explaining why sage mode was introduce against the rinnegan in starting. And then Naruto trained for Sage Mode to face someone with the rinnegan. This evaluation further leads me to conclude that the SO6P DID NOT have Sage Mode.

Though you might not find this interesting, but the 2 people are called God of Shinobi, have one of those... 1 represents body and nature, while the other represents body and eyes.

Rikudou : Rinnegan/ Senju body

Hashirama: Sage mode ( Mokuton also)/ Senju body.


Mere coincidence ? I personally don't think so. Just weird how 2 Gods of Shinobi share a specific thing (body), but then have a different specialties, the same specialties that have fought against each other before in the manga (SM and Rinnegan).


And no this is not me saying Hashirama = SO6P... This is me evaluating Rinnegan vs Sage mode, by using those 2.

Interesting. However, I disagree. Naruto is a true sage, the ideal strength of a sage. He may be on equal terms with Nagato, but Nagato's a relatively weak user of the rinnegan. However, it's hinted that there's other sage arts one can learn, so that would have to be how SM would =Rinnegan.

 

[Voidstep]

as I see it, the SO6P had sage mode.

before some people speculated that the Juubi had rinnegan due the fact that it was being controled by the sage.
but now we can tell for sure that wasn't the case. the Juubi always had the eyes.

now how did the SO6P defeated a monster like the Juubi that has the ultimate eyes!?!?
IMO he needed something very powerful to even stand a chance, and IMO that's where sage mode comes into play.
granted the SO6P had to be very powerful in base already otherwise sage mode alone wouldn't solve the problem... the more powerful you are the stronger sage mode makes you.

now... I still think we can speculate on something that is... maybe the SO6P had some sort of ultimate body, he was permanently 1 with nature, kinda like a permanent sage mode that can't be turned off. and the Senju/Uzumaki are only able to achieve a portion of that SO6P power temporarily by training/meditating.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Sage of six paths had Sage mode, even Kabuto indirectly said so:

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Besides I agree with post above that The Sage may had Pernament Sage mode

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[Voidstep]

Sage of six paths had Sage mode, even Kabuto indirectly said so:

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Besides I agree with post above that The Sage may had Pernament Sage mode

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good point, had already forgotten that Kabuto part xd

 

[Honord Sage]

He lost all his paths, used all his best Jutsus and was near death. Naruto stood in front of him unscathed and felt safe enough to have a conversation. Nagato was going to die and had given up, he invited Naruto to kill him. The only thing stopping Naruto from killing him was Jiraiya's words, when Naruto explained Nagato turned over a new leaf. Nagato was physically and mentally defeated. GG

OP*- I agree that they are counters for one another but I dont thing one is necessarily stronger than the other.

If you change someones mind and get Him to do things your way,You have achieved a victory you have won. Nagato surrendered to Naruto's way.

 

[7PathSage]

If you change someones mind and get Him to do things your way,You have achieved a victory you have won. Nagato surrendered to Naruto's way.

Really? You dont say? Did you even read the post? LOL