Rinnegan - Use it or not?

[chaos control]

This is why Obito never used rinnegan that much. He has been and always will be a spammer. Before he became a jin, all he ever wanted to use was kamui. He could have used wood style, rinnegan or fire style. Things like this woupd have certainly been helpful against people like Minato and Konan. Did he use them? No! After becoming a jin, it switched to the black balls (since he couldn't use kamui). Obito logic: I have a really strong jutsu. That means I never have to use any other jutsu ever again no matter how useful it is.

As for Madara, he probably was just sticking with what he was most used to which was EMS.

 

[VongolaX]

When nagato used the six path technique through pain, his original body couldn't any six path technique. Only the outer path and Rinne tensei <-----All that Obito has done and better/stronger.

Obito can't use the six path justsus and kumai at the same time.

Just like how Madara couldn't absorb properly with Susanoo.

 

[VongolaX]

This is why Obito never used rinnegan that much. He has been and always will be a spammer. Before he became a jin, all he ever wanted to use was kamui. He could have used wood style, rinnegan or fire style. Things like this woupd have certainly been helpful against people like Minato and Konan. Did he use them? No! After becoming a jin, it switched to the black balls (since he couldn't use kamui). Obito logic: I have a really strong jutsu. That means I never have to use any other jutsu ever again no matter how useful it is.

As for Madara, he probably was just sticking with what he was most used to which was EMS.

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Outer path rinnegan technique <---kumai the stakes, rinnegan activates the outer path control

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Firestyle: <--with kumai

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Mokuton<--couldn't combine with kumai, but strong/big enough to bind the hachibi

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[KingHashirama]

This is why Obito never used rinnegan that much. He has been and always will be a spammer. Before he became a jin, all he ever wanted to use was kamui. He could have used wood style, rinnegan or fire style. Things like this woupd have certainly been helpful against people like Minato and Konan. Did he use them? No! After becoming a jin, it switched to the black balls (since he couldn't use kamui). Obito logic: I have a really strong jutsu. That means I never have to use any other jutsu ever again no matter how useful it is.

As for Madara, he probably was just sticking with what he was most used to which was EMS.

He used techniques that cause less chakra strain, but enable him to fight..

 

[chaos control]

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Outer path rinnegan technique <---kumai the stakes, rinnegan activates the outer path control

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Firestyle: <--with kumai

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Mokuton<--couldn't combine with kumai, but strong/big enough to bind the hachibi

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I meant often. I am aware of the few times that he did use them. The key word here is few.

 

[VongolaX]

I meant often. I am aware of the few times that he did use them. The key word here is few.

If he uses other techniques often, he won't be intangible

When he used mokuton on bee and the second on kakashi, naruto headbutted him.

^^So' he'll get hit if he used something like shrina tensei after a interval leaving him vulnerable

 

[chaos control]

If he uses other techniques often, he won't be intangible

When he used mokuton on bee and the second on kakashi, naruto headbutted him.

^^So' he'll get hit if he used something like shrina tensei after a interval leaving him vulnerable

True. I know Kamui is a great technique. In fact I was telling my friend just the other day that I would choose to have Kamui if I could have one MS technique in real life. However, this does not mean that he has to depend solely on intangibility. You're saying that if he uses other techniques that he would be open for attack. That can be said about anyone using a non defensive jutsu. By this logic, Naruto shouldn't use rasengan nor Sasuke chidori because they are not defensive jutsus. They are attacks rather than defense. As a ninja defense is important, but so is offense. Obito's kamui can be used offensively, but it is actually arguably riskier to use this for offense rather than other jutsus. This is because with jutsus like wood style, fire style, shinra tensei, asura path etc..., you can attack from a distance and still have rather good defense. With Obito's Kamui, you have to get close enough to your opponent to touch them and you must solidify to actually attack and absorb them (thus giving your opponent more of a chance to hit you or explode paper bombs near you than they would have if you were attacking with rapidly growing trees from a distance, firing missiles or shooting gravitational waves). As for the point that Obito got headbutted by Naruto when he used wood style, you have to remember that Obito only used a very small and narrow branch to try to hold Naruto off. It was nothing in comparison to the offensive and defensive capabilities of stuff like deep forest emergence. Obito was practically begging to be attacked. By the way, the wood style that Bee was in came from Madara. Quite frankly, Kakashi's long range kamui is better for offense than Obito's is. This is not to say that Obito shouldn't use Kamui, but before the war he didn't even eject shuriken. It was just the same old thing every time. Yes it was very effective, but it also almost got him killed a couple of times. All I am saying is, Obito could still phase while throwing in a couple of mokutons or a couple of asura path lasers every now and then. It wouldn't hurt and it would actually help.

PS. Even if he can't use kamui while using rinnegan, shinra tensei only lasts for about a second. There's a 5 second interval before he can use shinra tensei again, but he can still use other jutsus like kamui immediately afterwards. He can probably actually use both rinnegan and Kamui at the same time because he used chakara chains and kamui at the same time and chakara chains are an outer path ability.

 

[VongolaX]

True. I know Kamui is a great technique. In fact I was telling my friend just the other day that I would choose to have Kamui if I could have one MS technique in real life. However, this does not mean that he has to depend solely on intangibility. You're saying that if he uses other techniques that he would be open for attack. That can be said about anyone using a non defensive jutsu. By this logic, Naruto shouldn't use rasengan nor Sasuke chidori because they are not defensive jutsus. They are attacks rather than defense. As a ninja defense is important, but so is offense. Obito's kamui can be used offensively, but it is actually arguably riskier to use this for offense rather than other jutsus. This is because with jutsus like wood style, fire style, shinra tensei, asura path etc..., you can attack from a distance and still have rather good defense. With Obito's Kamui, you have to get close enough to your opponent to touch them and you must solidify to actually attack and absorb them (thus giving your opponent more of a chance to hit you or explode paper bombs near you than they would have if you were attacking with rapidly growing trees from a distance, firing missiles or shooting gravitational waves). As for the point that Obito got headbutted by Naruto when he used wood style, you have to remember that Obito only used a very small and narrow branch to try to hold Naruto off. It was nothing in comparison to the offensive and defensive capabilities of stuff like deep forest emergence. Obito was practically begging to be attacked. By the way, the wood style that Bee was in came from Madara. Quite frankly, Kakashi's long range kamui is better for offense than Obito's is. This is not to say that Obito shouldn't use Kamui, but before the war he didn't even eject shuriken. It was just the same old thing every time. Yes it was very effective, but it also almost got him killed a couple of times. All I am saying is, Obito could still phase while throwing in a couple of mokutons or a couple of asura path lasers every now and then. It wouldn't hurt and it would actually help.

PS. Even if he can't use kamui while using rinnegan, shinra tensei only lasts for about a second. There's a 5 second interval before he can use shinra tensei again, but he can still use other jutsus like kamui immediately afterwards. He can probably actually use both rinnegan and Kamui at the same time because he used chakara chains and kamui at the same time and chakara chains are an outer path ability.

I'm trying to say that if he uses shrina tensei, he won't be able to use kumai in the interval.

It could have some affect like Madara's PS and asura path:

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[chaos control]

I'm trying to say that if he uses shrina tensei, he won't be able to use kumai in the interval.

It could have some affect like Madara's PS and asura path:

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Even so, the shinra tensei itself would protect Obito by pushing the opponent back. Then, by the time it does that, the jutsu will be over and he can use kamui. You're speaking as if shinra tensei does nothing and that Obito would automatically get hurt if he used it. He does not have to be using kamui at every second.

 

[VongolaX]

Even so, the shinra tensei itself would protect Obito by pushing the opponent back. Then, by the time it does that, the jutsu will be over and he can use kamui. You're speaking as if shinra tensei does nothing and that Obito would automatically get hurt if he used it. He does not have to be using kamui at every second.

Who knows what he was thinking right?

Maybe he already exhaust to much chakra?

 

[Noni]

I agree so much, the rinnegan pawns but they never use it.