Rinnegan Susanoo?

[itachiEMS]

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In the latest manga following, Madara activated Susanoo along with activating his Rinnegan? Even though he is an Uchiha the MS was not active he should not have been able to use Susanoo. So does that mean an Uchiha possesing a Rinnegan can use all the MS techniques as well. Won that make him exceedingly powerful, more so than any normal Rinnegan bearer?

 

[Roofy128]

we didnt see his other eye

 

[NOemotions]

madara is full of surprises lol, i think he only could UPGRADE it to the max (perfect) susanoo with the RINNEGAN..

 

[-Hatake-]

He showed before when he had his rinnegan active that he could still use MS/EMS techniques, like when he was using rinnegan, Susanoo was still active. So yes an Uchiha with Rinnegan can use MS techniques.

 

[-Logic-]

Think about it. If you had Amaterasu at Mangekyo level, of course you would have it at EMS level. If you had Susano'o at EMS level, of course you would have it at Rinnegan level. People need to wake up, and remember that the Rinnegan is not a separate Dojutsu, but it is simply an upgrade of the EMS.

 

[kourosh]

he used susanoo with rinnegan before , naruto manga 560 :sy:

 

[itachiEMS]

Think about it. If you had Amaterasu at Mangekyo level, of course you would have it at EMS level. If you had Susano'o at EMS level, of course you would have it at Rinnegan level. People need to wake up, and remember that the Rinnegan is not a separate Dojutsu, but it is simply an upgrade of the EMS.

Actually it's the other way round, Sharingan is the watered down form of Rinnegan. But I don't see Nagato using those techniques. So they are two seperate Dojutsu's.

 

[arv993]

Think about it. If you had Amaterasu at Mangekyo level, of course you would have it at EMS level. If you had Susano'o at EMS level, of course you would have it at Rinnegan level. People need to wake up, and remember that the Rinnegan is not a separate Dojutsu, but it is simply an upgrade of the EMS.

exactly rinnegan is just an upgrade its still related to the ems. we have seen him use suusano even with rinnegan. its similar to saying that sasuke has to downgrade from MS to 3 tomoe to see his opponents movements better.

 

[arv993]

Actually it's the other way round, Sharingan is the watered down form of Rinnegan. But I don't see Nagato using those techniques. So they are two seperate Dojutsu's.

thats beacuse he doesnt have uchiha genes. kabuto made it clear that after ems comes rinnegan

 

[Madara mhm]

Madara has perfected his rinnegan but Nagato was a talented rinnegan user.. as a previous comment said... The both very much alike Sharingan > Rinnegan.. but completely different dojutsu.

 

[GUCC1GU1LTY]

yeah he can use susano'o while rinnegan is still active

 

[-Hatake-]

Actually it's the other way round, Sharingan is the watered down form of Rinnegan. But I don't see Nagato using those techniques. So they are two seperate Dojutsu's.

Umm, maybe because he isn't an Uchiha. =DD

 

[markdabomb22]

Don't read unless you are following the manga.

In the latest manga following, Madara activated Susanoo along with activating his Rinnegan? Even though he is an Uchiha the MS was not active he should not have been able to use Susanoo. So does that mean an Uchiha possesing a Rinnegan can use all the MS techniques as well. Won that make him exceedingly powerful, more so than any normal Rinnegan bearer?

He already had his rinnegan activated before activating susanoo and after putting A into a genjutsu.

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he used susanoo with rinnegan before , naruto manga 560 :sy:

This is correct ^^
He has his rinnegan out and is activating susanoo here

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[Blaze Release]

People keep saying its because of his rennigan, but i dont agree. I believe thats his complete ems susano

 

[Nidaime Pupil]

Think about it, why should his EMS powers go away if he awakens the Rinnegan? Why is this even a question?

 

[NOemotions]

Rinnegan:

The Rinnegan is characterised by a ripple-like pattern over the eyeballs, with a light purple iris and sclera. It is said to be the most powerful of the Three Great Dōjutsu[/U] (三大瞳術, San Daidōjutsu; Literally meaning "Three Great Eye Techniques"). It was admired as being able to bring forth all ninjutsu. The holder of these eyes can completely master all five basic nature transformations that form the basis of ninjutsu. It was said that in times when the world is in disorder, a person is sent down from the heavens to become either a "God of Creation" who will calm the world, or a "Destroyer" who will reduce everything to nothingness. It also allows the user to use all of the six paths techniques, as well as the seventh path - that is "beyond life and death".
THREE DOJUTSU : 1 Byakugan, 2. Sharingan, 3. Rinnegan seperate eyes.

 

[ANBU Kakashi23]

it seems that if you go through the process of activating the sharingan, 3 tomoe, ms, ems, rinnegan, you can still use the abilities of the lower tier of dojutsu while in a higher form

this isnt the case for nagato because he had his rinnegan implanted, so like kakashi he cant per say "go down" in terms of its usable abilities just like kakashi cant turn his off, but lets say there was something beyond rinnegan, like 9 tomoe rinnegan for ex, and nagato unlocked that, he should theoretically be able to use that new tech while still having access to the rinnegans base abilities

 

[wootan]

I havent seen madara use any tensei! Nagato or pain didnt need susanno coz he can absorb or pull or push objects with measured force also he had that bubble protected konan n his friends n flew too.madara he use swords. Nagato made rods, n summons. All in all m guessing jus lik each sharingan user has special ability like itachi genjutsu. Others warp others kamui etc each rinnegan n user differs.

 

[Anorien16]

LAst time i checked susano was a ms tech awakened but unlocking both powers of both ms, rinnegan dont have susano as angato wld have used it as a defence again the Itachi's sowrd of tosuka.

THE REASON RINNEGAN WAS ACTIVATED IN PERFECT SUSANO MODE: Madara said he will respond with his full power, so it means he is gona go full steam which in turn means he is gona use all his abilities to their fullest extent. So naturally he is gona use rinnegan not EMS as EMS<Rinnegan (Proof: u always evolve to something better, EMS--->RINNEGAN but never lose ur base inheritance)

MADARA supposed to have mastered all sharingan powers and learnt all its secrets and thus was able to evolve to rinnegan. So doesnt it in a way imply that he perfected Susano before his rinne or senzu dana boost?

AND yes he can use rinnegan and susano both simultaneously or how else did he call the meteor with a susano? See:

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ALSO wootan are u blind? madara used two chibaku tensei (or similar) to summon the meteors and also used the chakra absorbtion path,
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But i also kinda agree with the fact that rinnegan may have unique abilities per user in addition to its base powers. Plus nagato used chakra rods only bcos his own body was kinda disabled, so he adapted in that way.

ALSO anbukakashi 23 nice observation, but if i may say it: did the fact nagato being a uzumaki matter in this case (he sould have dormant dna of sage)? cos i really dont trust tobi he's a big lier.

 

[RasenKirin]

He showed before when he had his rinnegan active that he could still use MS/EMS techniques, like when he was using rinnegan, Susanoo was still active. So yes an Uchiha with Rinnegan can use MS techniques.

This is exactly what I agree with.