Rinnegan spam misconception

[KingHashirama]

People believe if you have body like Nagato's and you have the rinnegan you can spam it.... no. .In a fight he cannot spam the rinnegan unlike his edo self. That is why Edo Madara is more dangerous as a Edo vs the same madara if he was alive.

If living Nagato were to use chibaku tensei in a fight were hes constantly moving, hes gonna be out of breath. Why? cause the stamina is going to affect the chakra. Not to mention that hes gonna have physical stress on his actual body unlike with the paths where he controlled them from far away.


- I constantly keep hearing about how this "healthy Nagato" and Madara with all his edo stuff alive would be the same as their Edo forms. But its a no. Hell Mokuton itself would take out a whole lot of chakra, and on top of that using the rinnegan... nope. People will now say "Madara has Hashirama's dna".. so what? the problem is he wasn't born with that sh*t.... he can simply utilize it better then Danzo and Obito can. But he will still follow the Yamato affect of taking strain after a long time using it.

- People will also now say "Nagato has an Uzumaki body".... yes I know.. that is why he can actually use the rinnegan to the capability he can use it up to. But does he have the ultimate Senju/Uzumaki body ? No.....

- So the point is that Edo Madara is a beast and a god in his edo form.... living wise.. hes still gonna be using EMS mostly, and some Mokuton and rinnegan techs. But spam? nah. The imaginary healthy Nagato will still be times weaker then the Edo Nagato.

 

[The Sach]

I agree with this...Point of the thread??hmm

 

[kunde]

Only thing that matters when it comes to using the rinnegan effectively is that the user must possess formidable life force. .give rinnegan to hashirama and see. . i bet nobody can use it as good as him. .i mean except juubi jinchuriki =D

 

[Awkward Linguist]

What in the living fuck has gotten into...

 

[Strict]

Nagato's feats as an Edo can be projected to a healthy Nagato who is alive. Despite his bad physical state, which ensued by the usage of Gedo Mazo's soul dragon, he crushed the whole village after already killing a lot of Shinobi before (even the likes of Kakashi) and fought Naruto afterwards. When later already ran out of Chakra and was beaten, Tendo had to face Kyuubi and used another massive technique like Chibaku Tensei. And still, he had the Chakra to revive all the dead of Konoha. He definitely has the Chakra to accomplish the feats of his Edo form.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

Nagato's feats as an Edo can be projected to a healthy Nagato who is alive. Despite his bad physical state, which ensued by the usage of Gedo Mazo's soul dragon, he crushed the whole village after already killing a lot of Shinobi before (even the likes of Kakashi) and fought Naruto afterwards. When later already ran out of Chakra and was beaten, Tendo had to face Kyuubi and used another massive technique like Chibaku Tensei. And still, he had the Chakra to revive all the dead of Konoha. He definitely has the Chakra to accomplish the feats of his Edo form.

This/
/thread.

 

[OfficialRikudouSennin]

Nagato's feats as an Edo can be projected to a healthy Nagato who is alive. Despite his bad physical state, which ensued by the usage of Gedo Mazo's soul dragon, he crushed the whole village after already killing a lot of Shinobi before (even the likes of Kakashi) and fought Naruto afterwards. When later already ran out of Chakra and was beaten, Tendo had to face Kyuubi and used another massive technique like Chibaku Tensei. And still, he had the Chakra to revive all the dead of Konoha. He definitely has the Chakra to accomplish the feats of his Edo form.

Agreed....rinnegan spam

 

[Shalev]

Yes, you can spam it.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

-_- Your saying Nagato couldn't spam rinnegan techniques despite fighting all of konoha , destroying konoha , fighting sage naruto , fighting the kyubbi, about 50 rinnegan techniques still having enough chakra to revive multiple people via rinnei tensei despite obito stating that if he revived madara alone he would die.

After all this Nagato still didn't immediately die from chakra exhaustion so to this thread in terms of Nagato
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[iNotorious]

If naruto had rinnegan, he could spam that all day long! h:

 

[Meee]

Nagato's feats as an Edo can be projected to a healthy Nagato who is alive. Despite his bad physical state, which ensued by the usage of Gedo Mazo's soul dragon, he crushed the whole village after already killing a lot of Shinobi before (even the likes of Kakashi) and fought Naruto afterwards. When later already ran out of Chakra and was beaten, Tendo had to face Kyuubi and used another massive technique like Chibaku Tensei. And still, he had the Chakra to revive all the dead of Konoha. He definitely has the Chakra to accomplish the feats of his Edo form.

Going With this...

 

[Touken]

Nagato's feats as an Edo can be projected to a healthy Nagato who is alive. Despite his bad physical state, which ensued by the usage of Gedo Mazo's soul dragon, he crushed the whole village after already killing a lot of Shinobi before (even the likes of Kakashi) and fought Naruto afterwards. When later already ran out of Chakra and was beaten, Tendo had to face Kyuubi and used another massive technique like Chibaku Tensei. And still, he had the Chakra to revive all the dead of Konoha. He definitely has the Chakra to accomplish the feats of his Edo form.

/thread

Honestly, Nagato and Hashirama's chakra reserves are at the top of NV (excluding SO6P).

 

[KingHashirama]

Nagato's feats as an Edo can be projected to a healthy Nagato who is alive. Despite his bad physical state, which ensued by the usage of Gedo Mazo's soul dragon, he crushed the whole village after already killing a lot of Shinobi before (even the likes of Kakashi) and fought Naruto afterwards. When later already ran out of Chakra and was beaten, Tendo had to face Kyuubi and used another massive technique like Chibaku Tensei. And still, he had the Chakra to revive all the dead of Konoha. He definitely has the Chakra to accomplish the feats of his Edo form.

This thread was specifically made your kind of post.

Your stating that a resting shinobi who controls puppet = a shinobi who is moving around getting hurt and doing jutsus.... in regards to stamina and chakra.. Which is highly false.


You my friend stated the misconception this thread talks about. He had the chakra to revive all the dead.. with a technique that lets him revive the dead... if it was Chiyo's technique.. then that chakra would be counted... but we don't know how much chakra it required...

-_- Your saying Nagato couldn't spam rinnegan techniques despite fighting all of konoha , destroying konoha , fighting sage naruto , fighting the kyubbi, about 50 rinnegan techniques still having enough chakra to revive multiple people via rinnei tensei despite obito stating that if he revived madara alone he would die.

After all this Nagato still didn't immediately die from chakra exhaustion so to this thread in terms of Nagato
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Clearly didn't read the thread.

So what your proposing is that sitting down and controlling things would take = amount of energy as moving around fighting a top teir shinobi, who will run you out of breath... leaving no way of you to actually use those high powered techs.

Now that you mention it.. was Nagato not getting exhausted when he used chibaku tensei and ultimate shinra?

 

[OfficialRikudouSennin]

I only liked because you need it.....

 

[KingHashirama]

I only liked because you need it.....

..........? what are you talkin about?

 

[UchihaNagashi]

- People will also now say "Nagato has an Uzumaki body".... yes I know.. that is why he can actually use the rinnegan to the capability he can use it up to. But does he have the ultimate Senju/Uzumaki body ? No.....

Have you been taking too many drinks again?

Getting tired of your sht KingHashirama...

 

[Strict]

Your stating that a resting shinobi who controls puppet = a shinobi who is moving around getting hurt and doing jutsus.... in regards to stamina and chakra.. Which is highly false.

Makes no sense at all. Especially the last point of doing Jutsu. He did all the Jutsu through his path's and obviously put the same Chakra into them, like he would use them by himself. Because he is the original user of the techniques. Plus, it was stated that controlling six corpses with chakra is a chakra draining move by itself. The argument of moving and getting hurt is peanut. Getting hurt doesn't lower your stamina. Taking hits in a combat is usual, just like...moving around. I never saw a Shinobi complaining about his stamina because he counted his mobility and the hits he got as a main problem for chakra loss.

Your thread failed. You also indicated that Nagato wouldn't benefit from all advantages of an Uzumaki's body.

People will also now say "Nagato has an Uzumaki body".... yes I know.. that is why he can actually use the rinnegan to the capability he can use it up to. But does he have the ultimate Senju/Uzumaki body ? No.....

What is an ultimate Uzumaki-body..? There is no term like this. Nagato is a fully-fledged Uzumaki like Kushina is, unless you show me a difference between them. And Uzumaki are canonically chakra-beasts who possess both incredible longevity and life force.

There is no basis for discussion for this topic. You just have a wrong understanding and perception on some things.

 

[OfficialRikudouSennin]

Makes no sense at all. Especially the last point of doing Jutsu. He did all the Jutsu through his path's and obviously put the same Chakra into them, like he would use them by himself. Because he is the original user of the techniques. Plus, it was stated that controlling six corpses with chakra is a chakra draining move by itself. The argument of moving and getting hurt is peanut. Getting hurt doesn't lower your stamina. Taking hits in a combat is usual, just like...moving around. I never saw a Shinobi complaining about his stamina because he counted his mobility and the hits he got as a main problem for chakra loss.

Your thread failed. You also indicated that Nagato wouldn't benefit from all advantages of an Uzumaki's body.

What is an ultimate Uzumaki-body..? There is no term like this. Nagato is a fully-fledged Uzumaki like Kushina is, unless you show me a difference between them. And Uzumaki are canonically chakra-beasts who possess both incredible longevity and life force.

There is no basis for discussion for this topic. You just have a wrong understanding and perception on some things.

Ooooooh logic! I love it u get rep!

 

[Kira was Righteous]

This thread was specifically made your kind of post.

Your stating that a resting shinobi who controls puppet = a shinobi who is moving around getting hurt and doing jutsus.... in regards to stamina and chakra.. Which is highly false.


You my friend stated the misconception this thread talks about. He had the chakra to revive all the dead.. with a technique that lets him revive the dead... if it was Chiyo's technique.. then that chakra would be counted... but we don't know how much chakra it required...






Clearly didn't read the thread.

So what your proposing is that sitting down and controlling things would take = amount of energy as moving around fighting a top teir shinobi, who will run you out of breath... leaving no way of you to actually use those high powered techs.

Now that you mention it.. was Nagato not getting exhausted when he used chibaku tensei and ultimate shinra?

I clearly didn't read the thread? I don't even...

Im not proposing anything im telling you that Nagato can defiantly use multiple rinnegan techniques and "spam" techniques for at least the amount of time he fought konoha, naruto , the kyubbi probably much much more considering obito would die of chakra exhaustion reviving one dead person and Nagato revived thousands. Madara clearly expected Nagato to be alive asking where he was multiple times so no rinnei tensei kills you argument please. Your saying characters have to stay still using high powered techniques or they will use to much chakra ... what are we roleplaying here ? Thats just plain wrong that contradicts literally every naruto fight we have seen.

-_- Nagato being exhausted from Konoha, Naruto and the kyubbi means he can't move using rinnegan techniques whilst fighting... you should really stop making threads im not trying to be mean. Its like Naruto being exhausted from fighting during the war i guess that means he can't move with a rasengan right :| really hope your trolling for your sake.

Edit: About Madara you may be right although he did fight against your favourite for like a night not running out of chakra which seems to me like massive chakra reserves.

 

[VongolaX]

Of course you can't spam rinnegan techniques, edo nagato never spammed any rinnegan techniques anyway.

If you notice every shrina tensei he used, he couldn't use it five seconds later but the other 5 were in access.
^^not spamming

The misconception is not the rinnegan, but the assumptions of what a "healthy nagato," is for that matter.

Just because he got drained the first time he used gedo, doesn't mean he didn't recover his chakra over 5 years.

Nagato's chakra was fully replenished he just that he lost mobility

During the fight in konoha, he had many times to replenish his chakra after devastating attacks through preta.