Rinnegan Sasuke's Susanoo arrows are forest busting (on-par with truthseeker orbs)

[southern sun]

They were both laying on the ground unable to move,dieing from blood loss cause they had their arm cut off yet you say Sasuke lost.It was a draw.

Sasuke said he lost... It was like restricted Naruto equals not restricted Sasuke i.e "draw"

 

[Xlad]

Just wow. Lol

 

[shelke]

Naruto fans and their cheap denials. The manga is over, yet they still whine and remain hilariously locked in hollering-mode. Let's get more picky, Sasuke never used Petra Path on Naruto's so-called attacks. That alone shows where Naruto's superiority lies. The whole thing was so hilarious. Reminds me of the times how he won against pein, with a diamond hard plot shield.

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You're in denial. Sasuke's arrows are not equal to Naruto's TSB and that's fact. You can keep believing that they are but you're just going to be wrong.

That's rubbish and you know it. Bring manga proof or stop passing off your opinions as facts. Both of them cancelled each other out. They got destroyed. It's a manga fact. There is ZEROevidence backing this preposterous claim of yours.

You should have learned your lesson after the Amaterasu debacle:

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Give it up already. Sasuke clearly explains why it didn't work. Heck, even regular heat was shown to affect KCM avatar, yet Amaterasu fails? You clearly have perched yourself solid on Minator's throne. It's almost too embarrassing.

 

[frozen5]

Naruto fans and their cheap denials. The manga is over, yet they still whine and remain hilariously locked in hollering-mode. Let's get more picky, Sasuke never used Petra Path on Naruto's so-called attacks. That alone shows where Naruto's superiority lies. The whole thing was so hilarious. Reminds me of the times how he won against pein, with a diamond hard plot shield.

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pls kid... go count the sasuke wank threads to his downplays then come back... as for preta.. i doubt the leaf village needs more statues...

 

[Sage konohamaru]

Mehn this OP is really butthurt. Clearly, those orb came back. Naruto wikia says tsb ain't easy to create. So there is no way naruto could create tsb will holding back against a killing-intent sasuke

 

[TrollingSage]

That's rubbish and you know it. Bring manga proof or stop passing off your opinions as facts. Both of them cancelled each other out. They got destroyed. It's a manga fact. There is ZEROevidence backing this preposterous claim of yours.

Zero evidence aside from the fact that the orbs came back?

 

[shelke]

pls kid... go count the sasuke wank threads to his downplays then come back... as for preta.. i doubt the leaf village needs more statues...

Typical fanboy, who doesn't even read the manga properly. It's NE's overload that turns one into stone, NOT Senjutsu. Petra path - who had no experience balancing out or handling Senjutsu - sucked Naruto's Senjutsu dry that he got thrown out of it. Only then, when Naruto loaded his own body with NE to create an imbalance of three energies did Petra path turn to stone.

Pa explains it clearly in regards to the Stone Statues: Pa: "They have become one with Nature."

Don't waste my time.

 

[frozen5]

Typical fanboy, who doesn't even read the manga properly. It's NE's overload that turns one into stone, NOT Senjutsu. Petra path - who had no experience balancing out or handling Senjutsu - sucked Naruto's Senjutsu dry that he got thrown out of it. Only then, when Naruto loaded his own body with NE to create an imbalance of three energies did Petra path turn to stone.

Pa explains it clearly in regards to the Stone Statues: Pa: "They have become one with Nature."

Don't waste my time.

wtf... lmao says a fanboy who scans pages to see sasuke

simply absorbing too much of nature energy will turn you stone.. wether its mixed with chakra or not.... so yes senjutsu and nature energy turns you to stone

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I don't know if the orbs can regenerate. The orbs have been stated that they can't be turned on or off, so I dunno. However, there's no proof that both were destroyed just because there was an explosion. Have you people forgotten this?

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when used as a projectile and no shape-shifting, they act as an explosive, and then return to the user as seen with Madara. Naruto might have done the same. Now, it would be awesome if they can regenerate, but I'm uncertain. It certainly doesn't regen easily since Naruto's staff remained shorter.

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Notice how one staff was longer? The only way it may be possible to regenerate is to go back and forth from its default form.


Regardless, it's possible they're equal, but not likely.

 

[Young Vongola]

Naruto fans and their cheap denials. The manga is over, yet they still whine and remain hilariously locked in hollering-mode. Let's get more picky, Sasuke never used Petra Path on Naruto's so-called attacks. That alone shows where Naruto's superiority lies. The whole thing was so hilarious. Reminds me of the times how he won against pein, with a diamond hard plot shield.

Great Thread!



That's rubbish and you know it. Bring manga proof or stop passing off your opinions as facts. Both of them cancelled each other out. They got destroyed. It's a manga fact. There is ZEROevidence backing this preposterous claim of yours.



Give it up already. Sasuke clearly explains why it didn't work. Heck, even regular heat was shown to affect KCM avatar, yet Amaterasu fails? You clearly have perched yourself solid on Minator's throne. It's almost too embarrassing.

Okay, obviously you're a hurt Sasuke fan. The manga is over and you're still denying facts that have been presented and claiming they're opinions smh. I stated my "preposterous claim" and I gave proper evidence to back it up, you just chose to ignore it. Maybe you should reread some posts in the thread, or reread chapters 695 and 696 since you're such a genius. Naruto can't regenerate TSB because if he COULD, he would have the original amount, not 3. After he destroyed the arrows, the TSB returned to him in chapter 696 - so CLEARLY they destroyed the arrows meaning they're > than them. I don't know why they didn't show up again in 695, it could very well have been a drawing error (Kishi does actually make mistakes you know). Take your butthurt rage somewhere else.

 

[shelke]

wtf... lmao says a fanboy who scans pages to see sasuke

simply absorbing too much of nature energy will turn you stone.. wether its mixed with chakra or not.... so yes senjutsu and nature energy turns you to stone

I suggest you reread Pa's lesson on Stone statues properly. This is practically sig worthy.

Okay, obviously you're a hurt Sasuke fan. The manga is over and you're still denying facts that have been presented and claiming they're opinions smh. I stated my "preposterous claim" and I gave proper evidence to back it up, you just chose to ignore it. Maybe you should reread some posts in the thread, or reread chapters 695 and 696 since you're such a genius. Naruto can't regenerate TSB because if he COULD, he would have the original amount, not 3. After he destroyed the arrows, the TSB returned to him in chapter 696 - so CLEARLY they destroyed the arrows meaning they're > than them. I don't know why they didn't show up again in 695, it could very well have been a drawing error (Kishi does actually make mistakes you know). Take your butthurt rage somewhere else.

Oh that ironical start.

Fact one: Sasuke used Rikudou Senjutsu in his Chidori and it allowed him to cleave Madara clean in half despite him having the Truth seeking orb. It also allowed for the paralysis. The Sage's Senjutsu is capable of bypassing the orbs natural defenses which is why they were effective against Madara. Thus, Sasuke is fully capable of using this form of Senjutsu to power any of his techniques. That's why Naruto was unable to negate or overpower his arrows with the orbs.

Fact Two: If Naruto's orbs DID overpower the arrows as you suggested, then the arrows would have disappeared and the orbs would have traveled forward unhindered. Not exploded upon contact, destroying the bloated defense of the orbs and sending them bouncing back. Instead, the arrows exploded. The orbs overpowered or negated squat. Their opposition was destroyed.

You are proven wrong by your own scans. See how long it took for the robs to ACTUALLY make it back? Furthermore, Sarutobi explicitly stated that the Truth-seeking orbs turn anything to dust and Tobirama adds to it by stating that they nullify any jutsu they touch. Nullify would mean an utter cancellation of every Jutsu. Did you see that happen? Did Sasuke's chidori disappear into thin air, or the arrows? They matched them in power. Get over it already.

How are TSB >> Arrows then? See, that's why your argument was empty and without facts.

Zero evidence aside from the fact that the orbs came back?

Look at the part I highlighted and then look at the post. Get it now?

 

[adeshina365]

shelke, unfortunately there are only a few people on this forum that can apply critical thinking.

 

[frozen5]

I suggest you reread Pa's lesson on Stone statues properly. This is practically sig worthy.

i want you to read chapter 435 page 5.. maybe put that in your sig too

 

[TrollingSage]

I suggest you reread Pa's lesson on Stone statues properly. This is practically sig worthy.



Oh that ironical start.

Fact one: Sasuke used Rikudou Senjutsu in his Chidori and it allowed him to cleave Madara clean in half despite him having the Truth seeking orb. It also allowed for the paralysis. The Sage's Senjutsu is capable of bypassing the orbs natural defenses which is why they were effective against Madara. Thus, Sasuke is fully capable of using this form of Senjutsu to power any of his techniques. That's why Naruto was unable to negate or overpower his arrows with the orbs.

Fact Two: If Naruto's orbs DID overpower the arrows as you suggested, then the arrows would have disappeared and the orbs would have travailed forward unhindered. Not exploded upon contact, destroying the bloated defense of the orbs and sending them bouncing back. Instead, the arrows exploded. The orbs overpowered or negated squat. Their opposition was destroyed.

You are proven wrong by your own scans. See how long it took for the robs to ACTUALLY make it back? Further, Sarutobi explicitly stated that the Truth-seeking orbs turn anything to dust and Tobirama adds to it by stating that they nullify any jutsu they touch. Nullify would mean an utter cancellation of every Jutsu. Did you see that happen? Did Sasuke's chidori disappeared into thin air, or the arrows? They matched them in power. Get over it already.

How are TSB >> Arrows then? See, that's why your argument was empty and without facts.



Look at the part I highlighted and then look at the post. Get it now?

This guy. Do you even read the manga or do you just do a quick scan for Sasuke? Sasuke didnt bypass the orbs because Madara didnt have them at the point.

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See? Not an orb in sight.

 

[Xlad]

Lml And as usual, the same people like this thread.

 

[BlinkST]

This is the 4th databook description of the truthseeker orbs:



The databook makes clear that one truthseeker orb has the power to obliterate forests.

In the manga Sasuke launched three Susanoo arrows from his V3 Susanoo at Naruto. Naruto countered them with three truthseeker orbs:

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It is made clear by the manga panel that there is no net force that won out; the attacks had equal power behind them. It can therefore be concluded that Sasuke's (Rinnegan) V3 Susanoo arrows have equal power to truthseeker orbs. They have the power to obliterate a forest.


Edit: For those that might think that because three orbs are shown later that it means that the previous orbs came back:

They are absent when Naruto activates the Kurama avatar:

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Naruto regenerated them.

Being able to counter the Gudodama does not equate to having the same destructive power.

 

[adeshina365]

Being able to counter the Gudodama does not equate to having the same destructive power.

It does in the circumstance that neither attack nullifies the other. The panel depicts a symmetrical explosion.

 

[BlinkST]

It does in the circumstance that neither attack nullifies the other. The panel depicts a symmetrical explosion.

Yes, in the particular circumstance that they clash against each other.

It does not mean Sasuke's arrows will have the same destructive power upon a forest the way a Gudodama would [By expanding]. Not unless it's a Kagu-tsuchi.

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Naruto's Gudodama survived that clash.

There is overall zero evidence that gaining the Rinnegan made base Susano'o stronger other than changing it's mouth [Which Kishi forgot about].

 

[Haizaki]

I'll just go over my points again:

- They clashed, the Orb exploded, the arrow got destroyed. How does that make the arrow a forest buster when it got destroyed by the explosion?

- The arrow doesn't explode itself or cause any explosion of such. It's the Orb that does so and that explosion makes it a Forest buster.

You're basically saying they are equal because we saw an explosion after both collided but what we actually saw there was the arrow being destroyed by the explosion that makes the Orb a forest buster.

So it that case, the Orb exploded preventing the arrows from hitting Naruto..The arrow isn't a forest buster when it was destroyed by an exploding orb.

 

[shelke]

i want you to read chapter 435 page 5.. maybe put that in your sig too

Dear Lord:

Pa's explanations:

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- Basic Explanation.

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- Pa: "Too much natural energy turns you into a frog".

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- Pa: "If you get overwhelmed by the power of nature ... Those who become frogs become one with nature. They failed the training".

Did this ink in? How about this:

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Petra path sucking Naruto's Senjutsu dry. In fact, he threw him out of SM.

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- He goes into SM, and Petra path sucks hi senjutsu again, and he is thrown out of SM again.

Then he does exactly what Pa warned him about: Imbalance of NE. He has low Chakra reserves to balance excess NE. That access NE is sucked in by Petra path, turning him into stone:

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- Even Naruto states it here.

Also, Sasuke knows how to handle Senjutsu. Not like it can turn one to stone, but just for your information. Not that you will keep your trap shut even after this.