Rinnegan > RSM

[HENI]

Rinnegan is better than RSM and here is why. Rinnegan can make you a god of destruction. RSM doesn't even make you a god or even a demigod. Nobody even called Naruto a demigod. He only surpassed the homage, but not the gokage. The gokage lost to a restricted Rinnegan user who simply used his EMS ability, PS, to crush them.

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Now lets see why Rinnegan is better than RSM.

Kaguya froze Naruto and Sasuke. Naruto couldn't do anything to save himself or Sasuke. Even though people claim he's so godly. Sasuke saved them.

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Even Kaguya feared Sasuke. Kaguya had Madara's powers and she was still afraid of him. She basically had RSM, Chakra from all the earth, Rinnegan powers, Rinne Sharingan, Byakugan. She was afraid of Sasuke that's why she sent him to the other world. She was sure she can defeat Naruto if Sasuke was away.

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Yes RSM has much more chakra but Rinnegan has much more POWER.

 

[Uchihaa Sasuke]

RSM > Rinnegan + Sasuke > Naruto = RSM Naruto = Rinnegan Sasuke

 

[Shruikan]

RSM makes you more powerful and deadly but Rinnegan has more practical uses in battle. Naruto can use those massive TB Rasenshurikens all day but with Rinnegan, Sasuke can simply open an inter dimensional portal and let them go in and simultaneously use Ameno to hit Naruto.

 

[Animegoin]

Rinnegan is better than RSM and here is why. Rinnegan can make you a god of destruction. RSM doesn't even make you a god or even a demigod. Nobody even called Naruto a demigod. He only surpassed the homage, but not the gokage. The gokage lost to a restricted Rinnegan user who simply used his EMS ability, PS, to crush them.

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Now lets see why Rinnegan is better than RSM.

Kaguya froze Naruto and Sasuke. Naruto couldn't do anything to save himself or Sasuke. Even though people claim he's so godly. Sasuke saved them.

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Even Kaguya feared Sasuke. Kaguya had Madara's powers and she was still afraid of him. She basically had RSM, Chakra from all the earth, Rinnegan powers, Rinne Sharingan, Byakugan. She was afraid of Sasuke that's why she sent him to the other world. She was sure she can defeat Naruto if Sasuke was away.

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Yes RSM has much more chakra but Rinnegan has much more POWER.

Let’s stop for a second, Kaguya didn’t have access to Madara’s Rinnegan abilities. Secondly Amaterasu is an MS tech, thirdly...RSM Naruto freed both himself and Sasuke from Black Zetsu’s clutches while Sauce stood there like a damsel in distress. And that was just one of the times Sauce was rescued.

Outside of those things mentioned above, I agree that the Rinnegan > RSM. It can drain/take all of the bijuu’s chakra and tame the bijuu and Juubi. Grant access to Six Paths techs without Hagoromo’s intervention, including Six Paths Senjutsu. Since the bearer can master any technique, that’s practically on par with RSM’s knowledge of all things.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Let’s stop for a second, Kaguya didn’t have access to Madara’s Rinnegan abilities. Secondly Amaterasu is an MS tech, thirdly...RSM Naruto freed both himself and Sasuke from Black Zetsu’s clutches while Sauce stood there like a damsel in distress. And that was just one of the times Sauce was rescued.

Outside of those things mentioned above, I agree that the Rinnegan > RSM. It can drain/take all of the bijuu’s chakra and tame the bijuu and Juubi. Grant access to Six Paths techs without Hagoromo’s intervention, including Six Paths Senjutsu. Since the bearer can master any technique, that’s practically on par with RSM’s knowledge of all things.

I kind of agree there's a reason why Obito was using RSM against Naruto and the alliance and not the Rinnegan powers, the same is true for Madara Sama. The fact that they weren't using the Rinnegan(nerfed) speaks volumes for which is actually stronger.

 

[Animegoin]

I kind of agree there's a reason why Obito was using RSM against Naruto and the alliance and not the Rinnegan powers, the same is true for Madara Sama. The fact that they weren't using the Rinnegan(nwrfed) speaks volumes for which is actually stronger.

Exactly, which is why Sauce’s Rinnegan was nerfed to shit against Kaguya. A master/semi-accustomed user of the Rinnegan would’ve made light work of that weakened Kaguya, which in this case would be Sasuke (post-Kaguya sealing) and obviously Rinnegan Madara. Sasuke in Boruto regressed in skill And is absolute ass.

 

[shadowcb]

Wrong, RSM and Rinnegan are equal. You fail to understand how these powers work. Eye power and body power works in two different way. Eye power focuses more on jutsu over ability, while body power focuses more on ability over jutsu. With eye power, the user automatically and instantly gains different jutsu. The user gains knowledge to use their ability to perform jutsu. With body power, the user gains ability but it is up to the user to figure out and learn how to use their ability to perform jutsu or anything else they want to do with it.

The difference between jutsu and ability is an ability being able to do something, IE manipulating chakra into wind. A jutsu is using an ability in a special way, IE manipulating chakra into wind and the shape of a sword to cut a target.

When one compares the Rinnegan to RSM, the rinnegan user is stronger on the front end because they automatically and instantly gain the ability to perform different rinnegan jutsu. IE, Limbo clones, Ameno, rinnegan genjutsu, and asborption jutsu just to name a few. They didn't have figure out or learn those jutsu. While with RSM, the user is stronger on the back end. The user gains the ability to manipulate chakra in any possible way at a level of a seasoned master but the user must figure out and learn how to use their power to create and perform different jutsu. IE, flight. Naruto didn't know he could fly until he was in a fly or died situation.
OP, your post is a perfect example of that. Naruto could have easily created a jutsu to counter the ice but at that time he didn't know the correct to manipulate his chakra to create a justu to counter the ice.

Neither Sasuke nor any other rinnegan user was nerfed. Obito even stated he could use all of the rinnegan paths after he gained the rinnegan.

I wonder what facts certain people are going to ignore and bs they are going to make up to claim Kishi's work is fanfic this time.

BS: Im being sarcastic. I don't care what people post, especially people who ignore facts and calls Kishi's works fanfic.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Right, that’s worse imo.

And I can’t wait to see what Shadow has to say lol.

He's posted his usual nonsense and excuses, from what I've gathered RSM grants comprehension of all things so retards can use it.

Wrong, RSM and Rinnegan are equal. You fail to understand how these powers work. Eye power and body power works in two different way. Eye power focuses more on jutsu over ability, while body power focuses more on ability over jutsu. With eye power, the user automatically and instantly gains different jutsu. The user gains knowledge to use their ability to perform jutsu. With body power, the user gains ability but it is up to the user to figure out and learn how to use their ability to perform jutsu or anything else they want to do with it.

Go back to school mate RSM grants comprehension of all things, so retards can understand and use jutsu. The Rinnegan user still has to develop the skills necessary to use them. On top of that it grants bodily enhancement recovery and TSBs which are manipulated via will power and to use jutsu. That's why Madara, Obito and Naruto were using them without learning or training the abilities.

The difference between jutsu and ability is an ability being able to do something, IE manipulating chakra into wind. A jutsu is using an ability in a special way, IE manipulating chakra into wind and the shape of a sword to cut a target.

Blah blah fanfic blah blah.

When one compares the Rinnegan to RSM, the rinnegan user is stronger on the front end because they automatically and instantly gain the ability to perform different rinnegan jutsu. IE, Limbo clones, Ameno, rinnegan genjutsu, and asborption jutsu just to name a few. They didn't have figure out or learn those jutsu. While with RSM, the user is stronger on the back end. The user gains the ability to manipulate chakra in any possible way at a level of a seasoned master but the user must figure out and learn how to use their power to create and perform different jutsu. IE, flight. Naruto didn't know he could fly until he was in a fly or died situation.
OP, your post is a perfect example of that. Naruto could have easily created a jutsu to counter the ice but at that time he didn't know the correct to manipulate his chakra to create a justu to counter the ice.

10 shades of BS as expected, I don't remember Madara, Obito or Naruto figuring out how to use RSM. Anyway have you considered the reason Naruto couldn't counter Kaguya's ice dimension is because he's slow(in ability and comprehension) or the fact that her jutsu also use Rokudo chakra meaning SM can't counter.

Neither Sasuke nor any other rinnegan user was nerfed. Obito even stated he could use all of the rinnegan paths after he gained the rinnegan.

Yep that's why they used the 6 paths against the alliance, btw Obito was taught the 6 paths by Madara not because he got the Rinnegan.

I wonder what facts certain people are going to ignore and bs they are going to make up to claim Kishi's work is fanfic this time.

I'm still waiting for the facts and not your fanfic.

BS: Im being sarcastic. I don't care what people post, especially people who ignore facts and calls Kishi's works fanfic.

Are you projecting again, we didn't ask for your fanfic interpretations we know you clearly deny manga facts because they don't agree with you. Btw thanks for admitting you spout BS.

 

[Mellanoma]

As others have stated both have their pros and work perfectly together when combined. Also one thing that makes your entire post invalid is that they are simply tools.

You can't argue RSM > Rinne or Rinne > RSM then use a character portrayal.

With that logic one could say Byakugan > EMS since Kaguya beat Sasuke's Tech.

 

[chukurama]

He's posted his usual nonsense and excuses, from what I've gathered RSM grants comprehension of all things so retards can use it.



Go back to school mate EMS grants comprehension of all things, so retards can understand and use jutsu. The Rinnegan user still has to develop the skills necessary to use them. On top of that it grants bodily enhancement recovery and TSBs which are manipulated via will power and to use jutsu. That's why Madara, Obito and Naruto were using them without learning or training the abilities.



Blah blah fanfic blah blah.




10 shades of BS as expected, I don't remember Madara, Obito or Naruto figuring out how to use RSM. Anyway have you considered the reason Naruto couldn't counter Kaguya's ice dimension is because he's slow(in ability and comprehension) or the fact that her jutsu also use Rokudo chakra meaning SM can't counter.



Yep that's why they used the 6 paths against the alliance, btw Obito was taught the 6 paths by Madara not because he got the Rinnegan.



I'm still waiting for the facts and not your fanfic.



Are you projecting again, we didn't ask for your fanfic interpretations we know you clearly deny manga facts because they don't agree with you. Btw thanks for admitting you spout BS.

To keep being delusional and saying that fiction is greater than reality does not make it true,,just like this ,,rinnegan> six paths mode can and will never be possible no matter how much you want it to be....

 

[HENI]

As others have stated both have their pros and work perfectly together when combined. Also one thing that makes your entire post invalid is that they are simply tools.

You can't argue RSM > Rinne or Rinne > RSM then use a character portrayal.

With that logic one could say Byakugan > EMS since Kaguya beat Sasuke's Tech.

Byakugan is only better than EMS if it evolves into tenseigan

 

[Prometheus 2000]

Lol...

Kaguya sent Sasuke to a different dimension because she was able to grab him, not because she was afraid of him. She literally tried to do the same thing to Naruto right after. Was she afraid of him as well?

Anyway, I think the Rinnegan is most effective against those who don't have the power to fight against its abilities, which is around 95 percent of the verse. On the other hand, Rinnegan users always attempt to gain Six Paths Senjutsu (RSM) for a reason.

 

[Jinrou]

Don't care in particular which is superior, but i really hope you aren't suggesting the Gokage stand a chance against RSM Naruto with that "not surpassed the Gokage" part.

Also, the Sasuke examples kinda scream bias. In the entire showdown, you're only able to bring up the Ice and executing Kakashi's plan scans because Kaguya was pretty much negging him easily iirc. Negged his Susanoo multiple times before casting him to another dimension so she could focus on absorbing Naruto's chakra and when he returned, he needed to be saved by a clone from the chakra arm.

Truthfully in your opinion, would Sasuke have fared as well as Naruto did alone vs Kaguya?

 

[HENI]

Don't care in particular which is superior, but i really hope you aren't suggesting the Gokage stand a chance against RSM Naruto with that "not surpassed the Gokage" part.

Also, the Sasuke examples kinda scream bias. In the entire showdown, you're only able to bring up the Ice and executing Kakashi's plan scans because Kaguya was pretty much negging him easily iirc. Negged his Susanoo multiple times before casting him to another dimension so she could focus on absorbing Naruto's chakra and when he returned, he needed to be saved by a clone from the chakra arm.

Truthfully in your opinion, would Sasuke have fared as well as Naruto did alone vs Kaguya?

Kaguya dodged Sasuke's chidori and didn't dodge Naruto's bijuu rasenshuriken. What do you think?

 

[Uverdore9]

Truthfully Naruto is a bit superior (overall). Because RSM is the better power over the Rinnegan that don't even give individual paths to thier respective owners. In former's case however, he's got an ability that outclasses even the original Rinnegan's power. The comprehension of all things and jutsu, the power to let Kurama gather the World's NE, high AOE attacks, infinite amounts of chakra, the power to artficially recreate organic components like an eye, great sensing capability that rivals/even exceeds Madara and that's not all. Whereas on the other hand he's left with a useless eye that doesn't possess the Preta Path which'd have been insane because as per the databook entry implication it's a jutsu that absorbs an indefinite amount of chakras. He'd have been insane, had he possessed that jutsu. Plus Gudodama is a better power than Ameno because he can disintegrate matter at will and it looks more "dominant" and majestic.
Kishi really did him bad by giving him a cheap excuse of a substitution technique - although, I admit it's OP. Should've given him something more badass and 'godly' looking.

 

[Animegoin]

Truthfully Naruto is a bit superior (overall). Because RSM is the better power over the Rinnegan that don't even give individual paths to thier respective owners. In former's case however, he's got an ability that outclasses even the original Rinnegan's power. The comprehension of all things and jutsu, the power to let Kurama gather the World's NE, high AOE attacks, infinite amounts of chakra, the power to artficially recreate organic components like an eye, great sensing capability that rivals/even exceeds Madara and that's not all. Whereas on the other hand he's left with a useless eye that doesn't possess the Preta Path which'd have been insane because as per the databook entry implication it's a jutsu that absorbs an indefinite amount of chakras. He'd have been insane, had he possessed that jutsu. Plus Gudodama is a better power than Ameno because he can disintegrate matter at will and it looks more "dominant" and majestic.
Kishi really did him bad by giving him a cheap excuse of a substitution technique - although, I admit it's OP. Should've given him something more badass and 'godly' looking.

This bullshit again, huh?

 

[chaos control]

Rinnegan is better than RSM and here is why. Rinnegan can make you a god of destruction. RSM doesn't even make you a god or even a demigod. Nobody even called Naruto a demigod. He only surpassed the homage, but not the gokage. The gokage lost to a restricted Rinnegan user who simply used his EMS ability, PS, to crush them.

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Now lets see why Rinnegan is better than RSM.

Kaguya froze Naruto and Sasuke. Naruto couldn't do anything to save himself or Sasuke. Even though people claim he's so godly. Sasuke saved them.

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Even Kaguya feared Sasuke. Kaguya had Madara's powers and she was still afraid of him. She basically had RSM, Chakra from all the earth, Rinnegan powers, Rinne Sharingan, Byakugan. She was afraid of Sasuke that's why she sent him to the other world. She was sure she can defeat Naruto if Sasuke was away.

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Yes RSM has much more chakra but Rinnegan has much more POWER.

I agree that rinnegan grants better powers than what we've seen from RSM, but not for the reasons that you have stated.

In fact, your post kind of fails for several reasons.

1. When Sasuke saved himself and Naruto from that ice, he used amaterasu/enton. Those are MS powers, not rinnegan powers. Therefore that scan fails at proving that rinnegan > RSM since rinnegan didn't even get involved.

2. In the scan that you used to show that Kaguya feared Sasuke, she said that Indra's successor has amaterasu. Once again, I reiterate: Amaterasu is an MS technique, not a rinnegan technique.

3. You mentioned how Madara crushed the gokage with PS. Once again, that is mangekyou, not rinnegan.

4. In 2 out of 3 of the above points, you basically just referenced amaterasu being useful in the ice dimension.

Basically, you didn't prove a thing about rinnegan being better than RSM. At most, you just proved that amaterasu works well against ice. That is just one specific scenario. You can't really say that one thing is overall stronger than another just because it's better in one specific setting. If you could, then I could just as easily say that RSM > rinnegan because Naruto had more of an advantage in the lava dimension than Sasuke (remember that Naruto could fly on his own in that dimension while Sasuke needed Naruto's truth seeking ball platform after he got knocked out of his susanoo and after his hawk was dispelled).

5. What do you mean by Naruto surpassed the "homage"? What the heck is the "homage"?

6. RSM Naruto would absolutely destroy the gokage.

 

[Jinrou]

Kaguya dodged Sasuke's chidori and didn't dodge Naruto's bijuu rasenshuriken. What do you think?

The literal translation of this to me at least reads 'Chidori > 8/9 Bijuu Rasenshuriken that Kaguya took no physical damage from'. Is this what you're trying to say?

 

[Nick01]

Fail thread.

As others have pointed out, RSM>>>Rinnegan.

It makes sense, it is the superior power after all.

Also, how did Sasuke fare against Kaguya with his Rinnegan in comparison to Naruto with RSM? Not too good at all. :lol

 

[salamander uchiha]

The literal translation of this to me at least reads 'Chidori > 8/9 Bijuu Rasenshuriken that Kaguya took no physical damage from'. Is this what you're trying to say?

Well it sort of does, depending on how you look at it, Madara tanked(while recovering from Guy's attack) a Lava release Rasen shuriken and all it did was fling him whereas Chidori katana cut through him. I guess you could argue it's the same reason Kaguya avoided it as we'll, I mean post Kakashi's Raikiri she was also fodderised.

Take it how you will.