Rinnegan/RSM theory, Rinnegan Madara much stronger than thought?

Hashirama Senjuu

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I think RSM, Rinnegan, and hybrids are equal. Here's why: Having both restricts eye powers, madara couldn't use susanno and obito couldn't use kamui. So by having just rinnegan you can use your eye powers to full potential but wont have RSM and vice versa because Naruto could use COAT and Madara couldnt. It seemed sasuke alone or naruto alone could've beat Madara.

Now if madara didn't have the ten tails, he would be able to use perfect susanno. But this time it'd be enhanced due to Rinnegan and it was already the biggest. He'd still have rikudo chakra cause it comes from Rinnegan which was obtained through combining ashura and Indra's chakra which makes rikudo chakra.

HIS LIMBOS WOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO USE THESE RINNEGAN enhanced PERFECT SUSANNO.

I mean that sounds so op along with the other Rinnegan powers. Plus who knows what his rinnegan susanno would be like. Chakra rod sword would be cool.

It just sounds like double rinnegan madara would stomp JJ madara. Thoughts?
 
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I mean one eyed Rinnegan madara without jubi wrecked all nine tailed beast, and neg diffed killed bsm naruto and ems sasuke. Along with hashi and tobirama.
 

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Plot is what restricted madara and obito, nothing mentioned in the manga or DB suggested that being a jinchuriki restricted dojutsu.
 

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Plot is what restricted madara and obito, nothing mentioned in the manga or DB suggested that being a jinchuriki restricted dojutsu.
No it said in that manga obito couldn't use kamui lol reread.
 

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Nopeeee

How do you know Maddy couldn't use susanoo?? fall back homie =D
 

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plot is the only thing restricting Madara and Obito. If Obito could phase while carrying the juubi he would've been the strongest ever
 

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No it said in that manga obito couldn't use kamui lol reread.

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But that was BS madara used kamui just fine he used CT and limbo just fine as well.
 

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But that was BS madara used kamui just fine he used CT and limbo just fine as well.

Yeah it is but he couldn't use his what would've been godly perfect susanno. That's why I think just double rinnegan madara with four limbo Rinnegan susannos would be super ****ing op
 

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It was never stated he couldn't use susano as Godara it was stated by him that he didn't like to continuously use the same jutsu and its a fact that he is the most nerfed and that naruto and Sasuke didn't damage him so why go all out, he mostly stalled them with limbo and ct so he could get off IT so clearly defeating them wasn't his top priority
 

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Yeah it is but he couldn't use his what would've been godly perfect susanno. That's why I think just double rinnegan madara with four limbo Rinnegan susannos would be super ****ing op

That scan countered your thread and you continue as if it didn't ...Only weak as juubito was restricted by juubi not Godara he simply chose not to it was clear naruto and Sasuke wasn't at the top of his to do list seeing how he used limbo and ct as distractions so he could get off IT
 

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This entire story could've took a more depressing turn if he focused all his energy on killing off the main characters and everybody else than putting them into a dream alive.
 

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So, your brilliant reason for Madara being stronger than we though is just DURR LIMBO SUSANOO DURR!
 

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Wrong

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If his limbo clones could do that then it's possible.
 

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Having both does not restrict either powers. Madara may or may not be able to use Susanoo depending upon whether his Rinnegan allows it. This has nothing to do with him possessing body powers. But considering that Madara could use Susanoo without eyes, he can most definitely use it with Rinnegan or hybrid or Rinnegan and RSM.

They're almost equal for the reason that not all powers of hybrids use both RSM and Rinnegan simultaneously which means either individual RSM or individual Rinnegan can counter the powers of hybrid. The rest depends on chakra potency.
 

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Having both does not restrict either powers. Madara may or may not be able to use Susanoo depending upon whether his Rinnegan allows it. This has nothing to do with him possessing body powers. But considering that Madara could use Susanoo without eyes, he can most definitely use it with Rinnegan or hybrid or Rinnegan and RSM.

They're almost equal for the reason that not all powers of hybrids use both RSM and Rinnegan simultaneously which means either individual RSM or individual Rinnegan can counter the powers of hybrid. The rest depends on chakra potency.
obviously it does if he didn't use his perfect Rinnegan susanno.
 
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