[VS] Rinnegan Obito vs Hatake Kakashi .
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lol? Kakashi has hiding like a mole...
Obito loses this. His only useful skill is Kamui, guess what? It's useless. obito's strategy hinges on him dropping you in kamui dimension. Result? Obito puts kakashi in kamui, and the manga proceeds to repeat itself.
Of course, this assumes Obito isn't given 6 edo jins and Gedo masu which is obviously unfair seeing as his jins and gedo are a bigger threat than him :|
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obito has alot of shit able to work here.
1. genjutsu. this is obvious. they can duel endlessly but sooner or later kakashis gonna get tired and mentally strained. his eye isnt as good.
2. uchiha flame barrier. he can trap kakashi in it and kakashi will be powerless to do anything about it.
3. it taking place in kamui dimension doesnt mean obito cant just touch kakashi and end it there by BFR. theres no reason why this cant happen.
4. juubi sized katon.
and you forgot about genjutsu and flame barrier.
1. genjutsu. this is obvious. they can duel endlessly but sooner or later kakashis gonna get tired and mentally strained. his eye isnt as good.
2. uchiha flame barrier. he can trap kakashi in it and kakashi will be powerless to do anything about it.
3. it taking place in kamui dimension doesnt mean obito cant just touch kakashi and end it there by BFR. theres no reason why this cant happen.
4. juubi sized katon.
how is it useless? one touch and kakashi get's BFR'd. and he cant keep coming back. sooner or later its a permanent BFR.
and you forgot about genjutsu and flame barrier.
i like how this is the common excuse. it never was used when naruto had kyuubi. kyuubis a bigger threat right? so narutos cheating right?
Nothing indicates genjutsu duel would end in Kakashi getting tired and Obito not, otherwise Obito wouldn't decide to stop the genjutsu against Kakashi.
Uchiha flame barrier is defensive only, it can be used to protect something inside it, not to trap it. Otherwise Obito would have used it either against Naruto, Bee or Kakashi. He didn't.
End it with bakufu? Kakashi just goes underground.
As for the last part:
Edo jins are obviously an unfair advantage to Obito, seeing as they don't belong to him but to Kabuto. If Kabuto decided to cancel them, he could just do that. So if you want to give Obito edo jins, then it's already Obito AND Kabuto VS Kakashi.
As for Gedo Mazo, that's more probable to be a part of Obito's arsenal, but it's really good only for soloing large groups of fodder ninja, it didn't do practically anything to anyone during the fight against Naruto, Bee, Kakashi and Guy.
Kakashi takes it high diff with Gedo Mazo in play and mid diff with Gedo Mazo out of play.
Try reading the manga. One touch and kakashi draws obito in with him. From there obi to gets raikiri'd before he can stand.
Edo kind are obviously unfair. Does obi to have Edo tensei?no? Why would he have jins then? I didn't know kab uto was here summoning dead people for him. As for gedo, you can use that of you want. But, hey, that's just you admitting obi to needs some external power to compete with a normal guy.
Even with gedo obi to loses. Gedos not doing much to kakashi when he can just traverse underground to find obito. If obi to camps on top of gedo, that's his business.
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Place it in the outside and give Obito use of his Kamui. In that instance, I would still give Kakashi the edge of over Obito by a small amount.
As Nous pointed out, this is assuming Edo Jinchuriki and Gedo Mazo are restricted.
As Nous pointed out, this is assuming Edo Jinchuriki and Gedo Mazo are restricted.
I agree genjutsu is rather useless for both parts here.
Proof of the bold, the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence, have we ever seen a barrier that only protects from one side? We have not. Furthermore, the outside is a flame barrier, anything that touches it gets burned. If someone tries to leave then they aren't immune to the outside which is on fire. The fact that obito didn't use it against naruto & co. means nothing, he merely would rather use the barrier to protect the mazou than use it for offensive capabilities. Doesn't mean he can't.
I'm gonna need some proof of there being earth inside the kamui dimension.
Noticed you thought it was outside the dimension, even if kakashi goes underground obito just follows him under.
Idk if you want me to prove it or not but the paths of pain are obito's power. The power to control the jinchuuriki & use them as paths is a rinnegan technique. The only thing that kabuto did to obito's paths was make them immortal due to edo tensei.
For example, an edo jinchuuriki can survive a decapitation, obito's regular paths cannot.
So if you want me to prove it then say the word but obito can use his paths independently & without any need for kabuto.
Counting the gedo out? How does kakashi avoid multiple waves of
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?Strength like
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?& jutsus like
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? (top pic is the gedo's jutsu)Going underground won't help, especially since obito can do it himself.
As I said, obito stomps in ANY situation where he can use his eye.
Yeah, because kakashi has eyes in the back of his head../sarcasm
Obito isn't warping in this match, sheer power can take care of him.
Obito has more chakra than kakashi, & kamui isnt restricted, therefore obito can spam attacks from multiple directions, thereby forcing kakashi to use either kamui or jutsus in order to defend. He will tire out & the match will be over (this is without mazou/jinchuuriki).
Read above, if you want me to prove that obito can use his jinchuuriki then say the word, they are a rinnegan jutsu. Nagato did it & obito has a stronger binding power than him, there is more evidence but as I said, I wont get into it unless you ask for it.
Jinchuuriki/gedo statue are in his arsenal unless restricted, same as the gumbai (just a note).
1. Obito can go underground too
2. Gedo is stronger & has AoE attacks
3. Obito wont be "camping" he will be fighting as well
4. Sharingan can see chakra, so obito waits with the gedo's foot ready to smash kakashi's face in
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he stopped it because they had a war to fight. not becuase hed lose out in stamina
ok fine. obito raises up an impenetrable shield for himself. fight over
obi does the same thing for whatever kakashi throws at him then
twice already, obito has warped kakashi without being dragged back with him
it was the main fighter from chapter 572 to when he cut back to the battle in chapter 594. in the intervening time it was mazo vs all of them and they couldnt even scratch it
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they are no longer edos. they are paths of pain.
he has them for the same reason he shouldnt have amber pot. he fukin stole them. pain couldnt summon his bodies before he stuck chakra rods into them. but he starts off with them nonetheless. so if nagato gets paths why doesnt obito.
it also wins him the fight
and thats you underestimating kakashi and thinking hes some weakling. to think obito needs this power is a testament to kakashis mighty power
it was also shown by kishi that obitos godlike with scale of jutsus that can only make kakashi shit his pants in fear against. it was shown kakashi was powerless vs the barrier and mazo. it was shown he can be warped in and out of kamui dimension at obitos will. it was shown obtio has superior stamina and can win a genjtusu duel because of this
obito customised them and added a rinnegan which is proof he was using the gedou paths of pain technique. they ceased being kabutos puppets and became obito's
no he stands no chance. theres heaps of ways obito wins this. either he brings the jins and they rape.
or he warps kakashi repeatedly til he stays BFR'd
or he genjutsu's him and shanks him in the face before kakashi can tell its a genjutsu
or he throws up his barrier and waits for kakashi to burn to death trying to penetrate it
