Rinnegan Obito vs Edo Madara

[Jaeger]

If Obito's jutsu was entirely different to the Rinne Tensei Jutsu, then Madara's rejuvenation would not have begun and he would have realized that Obito was performing a different Jutsu; however that was not the case and naturally implies that the two jutsu's are interrelated however require different seals. It was subtle deception at the last moment and in no way implies a complete resistance against the manipulation.

@Bold: Even if he was healthy and making eye contact with Madara, there would have been nothing he could have done.

@Red: Yet Madara was about to trash Hashirama's clones while keeping Obito at bay. [

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If Madara is a sensor and can use Sharingan to see his handseals beforehand, how come he:

1. Didn't sense chakra usage being used entirely differently (unless you are implying that Rinne Tensei costs as much chakra, while rod blocks chakra so he couldn't use all of his chakra)?

2. Didn't notice Obito doing different handseals although he could easily see what he was doing with Sharingan, even though Naruto who A. doesn't have Sharingan noticed it before the seal was done and B. could react before the jutsu was completed?

Obviously, Obito resisted it most likely due to the Rinnegan he possessed since it has been shown that wielding Rinnegan can negate the effect of chakra rod. It wouldn't make sense that he was on verge of death, most likely was out of chakra and the rod that blocks chakra make as well as movement should have made it worse although Obito was making handseals and using chakra.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Black Zetsu was keeping Obito alive unlike Madara's manipulation where he had a hole in his chest, Rods protruding through his body and would have died sides the Jubi factor; however both are near death situations. The only notable difference is that Madara's direct control via chakra seemed to have had a stronger effect on Obito than Black Zetsu himself since he was able to fully resist Black zetsu yet unable to fully resist Madara's manipulation: Even if he is able to eventually do so it would be time consuming and within that gap Edo-Madara wields enough potential to finish him off. ​

Still at it i see... The black rods came directly from BZ.(

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). Which is the also the reason the rods only came from the left side of his body(Where BZ was located on Obito) This should be more than enough proof... Also why did Madara wait to Obito was down and out to try it? Because he already knew Obito would overcome it with ease... The fact that your only argument from Madara is the cheap Spiral Zetsu win(Which i've already countered) means you already know Madara get plowed down...

 

[synkross]

Finally found the fking scan

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Obito can use the binding chakra chains while still being intangible, So there is practically Nothing Edo Madara can do to stop Obito, while Obito pinned down a fking bijuu with it. Obito can easily bind Madara and then take out his soul via human path or simply wrap him.

 

[Demonic.]

Finally found the fking scan

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Obito can use the binding chakra chains while still being intangible, So there is practically Nothing Edo Madara can do to stop Obito, while Obito pinned down a fking bijuu with it. Obito can easily bind Madara and then take out his soul via human path or simply wrap him.

Shinra Tensei GG

 

[synkross]

Shinra Tensei GG

lmao, As u can see in the scan that Obito can use intagibility while still using the chains so, all of madara's attacks will just phase through Obito. There is no counter.
And Obito can proceed to bind him, without any problems. So even if Madara gets immobilized just for a moment, Thats all Obito needs, The moment Obito lays a hand on Madara, its over.

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And since you gave Madara "Shinra Tensei", an ability that he did not display so i'll assume that u are considering the rinnegan powers even if not displayed.....That would give Obito the same advantage with the Rinnegan techs, meaning Obito can use his own shinra tensei.So Madara has no advantage once again.

The fact that Obito's Kamui gives him full control over engaging and disengaging since Madara neither possess the speed nor a space time tech, The whole battle will be on Obito's terms, giving him a better opportunity to lay a hand on Madara.

 

[AlphaScythian]

*Yawn...*

Here, pay attention to the bold slated red:​

All the same, control was resisted, influece was fended so was advance lol.

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear in previous posts. I'll reiterate for the final time: Obito could not resist against the manipulation as he was in excruciating pain and unable to move his body on his own.

@ Your links attempting to prove mobility:

-> First "x": Has no value. This was the very moment when Madara's manipulation began, it had not yet completely restrained and immobilized Obito as showcased in following scans.

-> Second "x": Also, redundant. This was prior to Madara utilizing the material to actually control obito, i.e. motion Obito to perform hand seals. He was not under any restraint at this point but experiencing pain from rods protruding out of his body and his body being consumed by a foreign object.

-> Third "x": No movement; Obito performing handseals as initiated by Madara via black Zetsu's material.
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So madara had him use seals for juubi sealing? Such fail lmao.

Your link to Danzo is a bad reference. Danzo could no longer suppress the surges of Hashirama's chakra flowing through his body; he lost control due to his physical condition. Obito's issue at the point in referenced scans had nothing to do with chakra control but chakra levels. However it makes no difference weather or not Obito was in a healthy state with his regular supply of chakra as the then "Madara's will" didn't merely manipulate the body via the chakra system.

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Obito too had same chakra of zetsu/hashirama.

Obito had far bigger damage done to him

The scan says controlling one's own chakras, stop your own interpretations that go against manga.

Madara hasnt controlled anyone, stop your BS U_U

 

[Demonic.]

lmao, As u can see in the scan that Obito can use intagibility while still using the chains so, all of madara's attacks will just phase through Obito. There is no counter.
And Obito can proceed to bind him, without any problems. So even if Madara gets immobilized just for a moment, Thats all Obito needs, The moment Obito lays a hand on Madara, its over.

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And since you gave Madara "Shinra Tensei", an ability that he did not display so i'll assume that u are considering the rinnegan powers even if not displayed.....That would give Obito the same advantage with the Rinnegan techs, meaning Obito can use his own shinra tensei.So Madara has no advantage once again.

The fact that Obito's Kamui gives him full control over engaging and disengaging since Madara neither possess the speed nor a space time tech, The whole battle will be on Obito's terms, giving him a better opportunity to lay a hand on Madara.

Warping someone with kamui is useless when someone has multiple wood bunshin on the field.

 

[Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo]

Edo Madara will win like the same way he obliterated everyone else.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Edo Madara will win like the same way he obliterated everyone else.

The logic behind this...

 

[-immortal-]

Madara will use the seal on Obito

GG

 

[Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo]

The logic behind this...

You seem tired.

 

[TRE MERCER]

You seem tired.

Of stupidity yes...

 

[Unorthodox]

Madara wins

 

[Kagustuchi]

Obito loses S1 but shits on S2​

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[Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo]

Of stupidity yes...

You are not different from all the kids trolling here. Hell, coming from someone saying Madara isn't even top 5, you're actually one of the worst.

 

[TRE MERCER]

You are not different from all the kids trolling here. Hell, coming from someone saying Madara isn't even top 5, you're actually one of the worst.

I said barely nice to see someone's stalking me...

 

[Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo]

I said barely nice to see someone's stalking me...

Or just someone with a good memory?

 

[TRE MERCER]

Or just someone with a good memory?

Yea i hear you...