Um, no you didn't. You gave a bias opinion.
So presenting an argument with facts that you simply can't counter = bias? Lol Come on now.
The wood dragon was fairly close to the avatar, maybe it was too fast to react to?
Not possible because the bijuu were
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to kakashi & gai than the dragon ever was, naruto had more than enough time to use it, he chose not to.
Of course, that's just an opinion, I'm not pretending to know for sure in order to debunk a claim like you.
But the funny thing is that I actually
have the facts to debunk your claim with, & since fact > opinion then there's no "pretending" going on here.
No proof the wood dragon would have even been destroyed via shockwave. It would just have been repelled back, Naruto wanted to destroy it.
Never once claimed that his shockwave would destroy it, however if he knocked it back & followed it up with a bijuudama
then it gets destroyed. He charged it most likely thinking he could destroy it without having to resort to using something as powerful as a bijuudama, regardless of what he thought though, he
chose not to use the shockwave.
Mazo producing shockwaves will only maintain a stalemate
As obito takes turns warping/binding/absorbing the soul of/trapping any clones that madara may have.
Point is that madara can't do anything to the mazou without PS, however obito still has free reign over everything so he can warp wherever & whoever he wants.
and Mazo can't produce shockwaves continuously, without stopping.
Proof? GM uses a shockwave, once it's done creating it [not once the shockwave itself is done] it can create another, nothing suggests otherwise.
Naruto didn't know what would happen? Madara said "This is Hashirama's wood dragon that in the past bound my Kyuubi." Again making up fallacious claims to help your argument?
Smh, is there
any mention that it can absorb chakra? The shape alone suggests it can be used for binding purposes, that doesn't change the fact that naruto had no idea it would start absorbing his chakra or be as resilient as it was.
Naruto obliterated madara's jukkai kotan with a rasengan spam, why would he expect a single mokuton construct to fare any better?
Shockwave would just repel wood dragon, it won't solve the problem/cancel the threat of wood dragon.
Wrong, shockwave
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the entire area surrounding the GM, unless you have proof that normal mokuton or mokuryuu is more resilient than that then all mokuton in the area gets destroyed. A much larger mokuryuu got shattered simply by the
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of a travelling tbb, if you're suggesting that the GM shockwave has less force than that then I'm not going to waste my time anymore.
I haven't even mentioned the chakra blast the GM is also capable of, a chakra blast capable of destroying a mountain sized boulder. [
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A bijuudama would explode if faced with a boulder of that size, or an even better comparison would be the fact that naruto
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multiple bijuudamas with chakra alone. The fact that mokuryuu got shredded by the mere force of one moving clearly shows you where it would stand when faced with the shockwave produced by the GM.
Mokuton sprouts from the ground. Right below Mazo's feet.
Point? Shockwave originates from the mazou's body, no matter how close the mokuton is it still gets shattered via shockwave.
Once the shock waves stop, or even during a shockwave, mokuton will sprout from the ground and restrain it.
Not happening during a shockwave, the mokuton that sprouts gets destroyed. & Once the gedo is
done creating the shockwave it can simply use another one, it doesn't have to be finished in order for the GM to be allowed to do it again.
It's not that hard to understand.
Then why can't you understand that any & all mokuton is useless as long as the GM can create shockwaves, none of the mokuton will do anything significant, & mokuryuu isn't absorbing the chakra of seven bijuu before another one can be created.
Pointless. Same thing will hapen.
Every second that goes by is another second against madara. As the GM is keeping most of madara's fire busy obito will be warping behind him or any clones he may have & use one of the various ways I explained he gets rid of them. Eventually, & long before the GM or obito runs out of chakra, he will find the real one & this match will be over.
The one that resorts to insults is usually the one that's desperate Lol
Lmfao don't even go there, you
always insult me [actually not just me, other members too] first, I guess you're desperate most of the time going by your very own logic. Interesting to know, at least now every time I see you use an insult I can call you desperate & it will be fine according to you, thanks for the info.
Don't know why you bring this up. Madara had greater reserves than Obito. And he doesn't tire since he's edo.
Wow... Where did I argue that obito had greater reserves than an edo? Lol C'mon man, I know reading may be hard but I'm trying to make it easy for you...
The GM has seven bijuu worth of chakra & obito has a massive reserve as well, if obito simply sticks to re-summoning the GM from time to time [not that it's necessary] then
A] that won't affect the GM who has it's own reserves &
B] obito won't run out of chakra before he finds the real madara.
This has nothing to do with madara's reserves, it depends on how long obito can last before he warps madara away & based on what he's shown us he'll have chakra to spare before he does.
1. Shockwave repels oncoming mokuton.
------Too bad mokuton sprouts from the ground
Shockwave repels anything around the GM
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it may be, it originates from it's body meaning that anything touching it will face the full force of the attack.
2. Once the Mazo gets restrained it becomes overwhelmed with Mokuton to the point it can't even move, like Hachibi, then its chakra is suppressed .
Not happening, can't restrain it when anything touching it gets repelled before it becomes too overwhelming. Gyuki is an awful example so stop using him, he has no goddamn legs & you're comparing it to something that can
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, laughable to say the
very least.
---- why cant I use Bee as an example?
No legs, less power, less intelligence than obito, overall nothing to compare other than their size which isn't valid.
As for naruto, I already explained how he could've easily destroyed the mokuryuu but chose not to.
Shockwaves arent strong enough to destroy the entire forrest or wood dragon, it'll just repel.
Based on what? I gave evidence as to how this claim is nonsense & that any type of mokuton aside from things like mokujin/hobi are just as durable as any old mokuton, here's another example:
It took multiple rasengans from naruto in order to destroy jukkai kotan. [
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We've seen what a normal base rasengan can do to a tree. [
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This cements the fact that mokuton = regular tree durability. Since that's the case then large boulders/earth > trees, & if the shockwave could destroy those with ease then the mokuton follows suit.
It can't keep up the shockwaves, so yes it's getting overwhelmed.
No proof, only fallacious claims.
And resummoning is pointless, The outcome will stay the same.
Re-summoning is only needed once you prove how the shockwaves can't handle all the mokuton coming it's way.
When Bee and Kurama were subdued?
Naruto/Bee =/= Obito/GM, the comparisons for both are invalid.
Can Mazo keep up the shockwaves continuously?
Nothing suggests otherwise, all it has to do to use it is scream, no prep & no special conditions like with the ST cooldown or the kamui 5 min limit.
Gyuki being restrained means the Mazo is definitely being restrained since the Gyuki is stronger than that shell
Where's your proof? Don't have any? Typical, the GM busted a mountain & survived being crushed by the moon [as a shell], it flattened the landscape with it's shockwave & prevented itself from being crushed by a much larger construct than the mokuton used on gyuki could ever hope to be. Mokuton gets crushed by base rasengans & obliterated by much larger ones, hell even the force of a tbb which got deflected by mere chakra was able to shatter mokuryuu.
There's literally a mountain of evidence against you. Stop claiming that gyuki has any sort of strength comparable to the mazou, & stop claiming that mokuton has any more durability than regular trees, it's flat out embarrassing.
That'll only keep Mokuton at bay i.e. delay not solve the problem
It destroys it, as I have proven.
It can produce as many shockwaves as it wants the Mokuton will keep on coming.
Then obito deals with the one creating the mokuton as he continuously warps away anything else he needs to.
Meanwhile Madara still fights Obito without the Mazo since it's being kept busy.
Lol All obito has to do is take out the unsuspecting one creating the mokuton, then madara's forced to have another one do it. Obito isn't restricted to fighting one person, he can warp to whoever he wants, therefore having madara fight obito is pointless if obito doesn't see an opening.
Without the Mazo he loses.
The mazou is a rinnegan summoning so if you're going to gimp obito even more by taking away the only thing that allows him to contend with edo madara then be my guest, but as I said previously I don't care if madara needs special conditions to be set in order to beat obito.
I'm not the one saying shockwave...Shockwave again. ...another Shockwave lmao.
That's not desperation pal, that's me repeating an argument that you have yet to counter, so it's still completely viable.
You're the one being desperate by trying to find ways that the mokuton can somehow bypass the shockwave, despite the fact that it will
always get destroyed &
always be a non-factor.
Can we pretend I posted a scan of Choji stalemating the Gedo?
I was waiting for you to mention choji. U_U
A] Prove that any mokuton used by madara is heavier than choji & his father who can crush the ground just by landing. [
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B] Prove that the gedo put it's full power into the attack it used on choza.T he fact that it showed us it can do more than just contend with a large opponent proves that either choza is extremely powerful/heavy or the gedo didn't use it's full power, take your pick on which is correct. Neither change the point which is that mokuton is fodder in comparison.
Choza/choji are ultimately bad examples to base the gedo's strength off of.
Can we pretend I posted a scan of Gyuki overpowering the Gedo, so bad, obito protected it with the flame formation?
You mean when the GM was transforming into the juubi & couldn't fight? So obito didn't want them to disturb it? [
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] Laughable that you would even bring up a transforming gedo in your argument, thought you were smarter than that but I guess I was mistaken again.
