[VS] Rinnegan Madara vs EMS Madara

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EMS gets Kurama.
Rinnegan is EMS but with Rinnegan instead.

If EMS wins, give Rinnegan Hashi cells boost
If Rinnegan wins, add other bijuu to balance the scales
 

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Hashi cell boost is yang release which gives faster recovery, not much of a boost.

Anyway if they're living then the stronger is Rinnegan Madara. EMS Madara + 9 tailed beasts aren't countering Limbo.
 

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Hashi cell boost is yang release which gives faster recovery, not much of a boost.

Anyway if they're living then the stronger is Rinnegan Madara. EMS Madara + 9 tailed beasts aren't countering Limbo.
Fodder Yamato went from some basic kid to someone who's chakra constructs are ten times bigger than Kakashi chakra constructs.

Hashi cells don't carry his chakra, they carry his life force which is used in making chakra (and boosting overall health). Because this LF is sooo potent, it strengthens (levels up, if you will) whatever the person can do. His LF is definitely aligned towards Yang, so those kinds of chakra uses (Yang style) definitely get a bigger boost than other elements, but everything is boosted.
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Limbo. That's all I'm gonna say.
Kurama can detect emotion, can't he detect the clones?

If you still say Rinnegan wins, the pther bijuu . . .
- Shukaku can cover the field in sand, so no secrer ground play, and seal the clones
- Matatabi is a ball of fire, essentially, and her Fier Rats can seek out targets such that the slightest touch will,bring an army of.bombs upon any clone
- Isobu can use genjutsu, which if the clones can detect they can be affected by, or just flood the field, finding any ground based clones
- Saiken can release acid that instantly negs any clones nearby
- they can, all, split for the hills and TBB Barrage the battlefield, findinf and killing any clones in range

Yeah, this is alive Madara, so none of that crazy WA scaling.
 
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Fodder Yamato went from some basic kid to someone who's chakra constructs are ten times bigger than Kakashi chakra constructs.

Hashi cells don't carry his chakra, they carry his life force which is used in making chakra (and boosting overall health). Because this LF is sooo potent, it strengthens (levels up, if you will) whatever the person can do. His LF is definitely aligned towards Yang, so those kinds of chakra uses (Yang style) definitely get a bigger boost than other elements, but everything is boosted.
This is pure fanfic. Also chakra comes from yin and yang not lifeforce.
 

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limbo solo... you need at least rikudou chakra to have chance beating rinnegan madara because of it........
Why? Isn't it just an invisible clone?

Edo Madara had all sorts of boosts that living Madara doesn't have, so his limbo clones won't have those boosts either. Well,that is if Edo Madara had an boosts that his living self wouldn't have.
 

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Why? Isn't it just an invisible clone?

Edo Madara had all sorts of boosts that living Madara doesn't have, so his limbo clones won't have those boosts either. Well,that is if Edo Madara had an boosts that his living self wouldn't have.
if he cant perceive a limbo he get killed like kimbo!
 

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Round 1 Rinnegan
Round 2 Rinnegan again
The big flaw to me is that more tailed beasts mean nothing because Rinnegan Madara has just as much, if not more, control over the beasts as EMS Madara does. They're supposed to serve as an equalizer but Rinne Madara can just use them to his favor.
 

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Yamato helped rebuild the village and while training Naruto created an earth, water then wood release that trumps anything (in size) that Kakashi has ever done.

Based on this and our Darui v Hashi interaction, I'm done with you.
You're done with your head canon you mean. Yamato has a 4 stamina stat so.. also that fanfic that Hashi cells boosted Yamato :lmao:
 

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if he cant perceive a limbo he get killed like kimbo!
That's what the bijuu wil help with. Covering the field in sand will see any footprints (Shukaku), Tail Whirlwind would find anything in the air (Gyuki), likewise water blasts (Isobu), Aicd Sheet (Saiken) amd such. If nothing else, a simple TBB from all beasts will find and kill the clones. Or at least just find them.


Round 1 Rinnegan
Round 2 Rinnegan again
The big flaw to me is that more tailed beasts mean nothing because Rinnegan Madara has just as much, if not more, control over the beasts as EMS Madara does. They're supposed to serve as an equalizer but Rinne Madara can just use them to his favor.
Ok, lets give EMS the bijuu control
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You're done with your head canon you mean. Yamato has a 4 stamina stat so.. also that fanfic that Hashi cells boosted Yamato :lmao:
"One's life force power direction depends upon the quality of their . Physical energy is energy produced by all of the body's cells and is one of the components to chakra, the other being spiritual energy. As such, it is possible to increase the power of one's life force"
- wiki, basically saying life force determines physical energy which is derived from cells

" (which is chakra with a higher ratio of physical energy than spiritual energy) is said to "govern vitality, granting life to forms that have none." Naturally then, the greater one's physical energy the greater their life force and the greater their life force the greater their Yang Release"
- wiki, basically saying Yang Release is chakra, which in itself is partly made of physical energy, which in turn says life force and physical energy exist before chakra

" , the lord of the Senju, no doubt inherited his clan's life energy in a particular way, giving him the ability to produce life with his chakra in the form of . In order to create plant life, one would certainly need vitality and life energy to do so."
- wiki, saying that Hashi has freator life force tyan others, far greator

So since Yamato, Danzo and Madara wouldn't have had as great a physical energy as Hashirama, taking in his cells would give his physical energy (since physical energy is derived from cells) in amount fitting the number of cells they took, thus giving them greator physical energy than they originally had. Hmm, I probably need to explain why Hashi has greator physical energy to begin with. Firstly, he's senju, who are gifted with such. Secondly, he's a reincarnation of Ashura, who is gifted with such (so his structure is influenced by Ashura who would grant greator life force). Thirdly, the creation of life (mokuton) requires such and in his case the life he created (Konoha Forest) lasted for centuries. Fourthly, mere cells pf his could sprout into fully grown adults (zetsu) whose chakra abilities (to copy any element, any signature, travel underground etc) far outweigh any random shinobi (who needs hand seals.even with their native elements), so even just a few cells have more life force than a trained shinobi entirely, a trained jounin who is relatively called "superhuman" by the databook. So taking more than a few cells (in the case of Danzo and Madara, who had an entire face) would grant more energy than their entire selves. It is basically adding an entire living person's worth of energy on top of their own. That's just with a few cells.

Now if you compare Zetsu (a few cells, or even just clones of cells) to Yamato, Zetsu has more energy and greator quality. So undoubtedly adding a Zetsu (a few cells) to Yamato grants a wholesome boost.

If that was a bait attempt, you got me. If you're just trolling, please stop coz you suck at it. At least the Uchiha were classy with their trolling.

And change your username, you're not worthy of being called salamander.
 
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Rinnegan Madara already has Hashirama cells and it’s the cells he implanted that enabled him to use the rinnegan he awakened in the first place.

EMS Madara with Kurama gets stomped by Rinnegan Madara. Madara is on a whole other league and he sacrificed himself to get the rinnegan in the first place.

If EMS Madara was anywhere near the level of Rinnegan Madara, Madara wouldn’t of gone through the effort of stealing Hashirama’s tissue to gain the rinnegan.
I don’t know why this base in particular think that EMS Madara with Kurama is literally the strongest version of Madara ever. It doesn’t make sense, he has his regular power plus six path powers.
It’s a basic 1+1=2 power principle through strength gaining.

Rinnegan Madara can literally use Limbo Hengoku which knocked down all 9 bijus, so best believe that EMS Madara with a magic garb is getting sent flying, possibly kicked out of Susano’o like Jigen did Adult Sasuke.
Then he’ll summon gedo mazo to swallow up the kyubi or at least restrain it with Gedo power chains, then proceed to kill EMS Madara by holding him suspended in the air like he did EMS kid Sasuke, and stab him in the chest.
 

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EMS Madara being inferior to The Rikūdo variant doesn't make sense, as he literally couldn't produce PS, as a TTJ. I doubt he's even capable as the plot excuse could only go so far.

The DC is proportionally on another level as well, seeing as mountain levelling attacks were displayed reminiscent to that of RG Sasuke's Rikūdo enhanced PS.

Hence the premise that EMS Madara being inferior to TTJ, is factually unsubstantiated.
 
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