Rinnegan Madara = SM Hashirama

[Ziba27]

Some people are saying Rinnegan Madara > SM Hashirama using this as evidence:

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They do this by completely ignoring what happened prior:

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We all saw after their off-panel fight both Hashi and Madz were at a stalemate (meaning how ever long they fought, they were equal)... It was only after Naruto and then BZ interfered that Madara got the upper hand.

Plz stop saying Rinnegan Madara > SM Hashirama or even Rinnegan Madara < SM Hashirama because manga showed us none was greater than the other, only fan-fic states otherwise.

 

[Uchiha Samater]

considering that the edo tensei brought the user back at ALMOST their full power

Hashi was weaker than his alive state


Madara would also be weaker than he was when alive, HOWEVER, his body was tampered with and he was 'Upgraded', so to speak.

Once this UPGRADED body was brought back to life, his power increased once more

making Rinnegan Madara > SM Hashirama

 

[Angelofchaos179]

RM can beat SH

 

[Meee]

that fight was irrelevant, Edo's are weaker than there living selves and Madara obtained Senjutsu later on.

Hashi gets murked, he cant see or sense the 6 Limbo's

 

[Michael]

Some people are saying Rinnegan Madara > SM Hashirama using this as evidence:

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They do this by completely ignoring what happened prior:

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We all saw after their off-panel fight both Hashi and Madz were at a stalemate (meaning how ever long they fought, they were equal)... It was only after Naruto and then BZ interfered that Madara got the upper hand.

Plz stop saying Rinnegan Madara > SM Hashirama or even Rinnegan Madara < SM Hashirama because manga showed us none was greater than the other, only fan-fic states otherwise.

Thats not "Rinnegan Madara", thats kabuto's enhanced Rinnegan Hashidara.

 

[xxxLegacy]

Lol Limbo would destroy Hashirama. ........

 

[VongolaX]

Unfortunately that is Alive blind Madara, so he can't use his six path techniques to the fullest extent.

Once he implants those rinnegan eyes, his six paths are on a greater scale and limbo would destroy Madara.

Hashirama will need gudodama's to keep up with Madara.

Sm Hashirama fought on par with EMS Madara (off panelled) both ended warn out in their battle.

Now rinnegan Madara can mimic Hashirama's mokuton on top of that and you call them even?

Madara used inzanagi for a reason...

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

Lol Limbo would destroy Hashirama. ........

I believe the guy was comparing Rinnegan Madara to Sage Hashirama, not Rikudou Madara to Sage Hashirama.

Rikudou Madara would obviously stomp Hashirama.

 

[Sound]

Lol Limbo would destroy Hashirama. ........

Sage mode GG

 

[Ventuis]

Mind you, when Madara absorbed Hashirama's SM chakra, he had no eyes.

 

[Meee]

I believe the guy was comparing Rinnegan Madara to Sage Hashirama, not Rikudou Madara to Sage Hashirama.

Rikudou Madara would obviously stomp Hashirama.

Madz was using Limbo as soon as he got his first Rinnegan.

 

[Barbarossa]

Rinnegan Madara is stronger than Hashirama.


Deal with it braaah

 

[BLAZE]

Hashi will get stomped tbh

 

[NeutralChaos]

Some people are saying Rinnegan Madara > SM Hashirama using this as evidence:

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They do this by completely ignoring what happened prior:

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We all saw after their off-panel fight both Hashi and Madz were at a stalemate (meaning how ever long they fought, they were equal)... It was only after Naruto and then BZ interfered that Madara got the upper hand.

Plz stop saying Rinnegan Madara > SM Hashirama or even Rinnegan Madara < SM Hashirama because manga showed us none was greater than the other, only fan-fic states otherwise.

Sorry, but we don't even know if Madara even used any wood style or Rinnegan techniques. Maybe he wanted to make it fair? Besides, like the tailed beasts said, Madara's Rinnegan at that time was fake, and may not have had the full power of the six paths.

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

Sage mode GG

Limbo can not be sensed by regular SM! Only the Sage's SM is able to sense Limbo nad only the Rinnegan users can see it! Madara 's Limbo alone destroys SM Hashirama! He doesnt have the means to counter it...

 

[Ziba27]

considering that the edo tensei brought the user back at ALMOST their full power

Hashi was weaker than his alive state


Madara would also be weaker than he was when alive, HOWEVER, his body was tampered with and he was 'Upgraded', so to speak.

Once this UPGRADED body was brought back to life, his power increased once more

making Rinnegan Madara > SM Hashirama

What kind of logic is that?
if upgraded Madz WAS equal to Hashi then how can normal Madz > Hashi...
That means normal Madz > upgraded Madz

that fight was irrelevant, Edo's are weaker than there living selves and Madara obtained Senjutsu later on.

Hashi gets murked, he cant see or sense the 6 Limbo's

They were both edo so it's completely relevant, naruto sensed limbo using sm so we don't know if hashi could or not

Unfortunately that is Alive blind Madara, so he can't use his six path techniques to the fullest extent.

Once he implants those rinnegan eyes, his six paths are on a greater scale and limbo would destroy Madara.

Hashirama will need gudodama's to keep up with Madara.

Sm Hashirama fought on par with EMS Madara (off panelled) both ended warn out in their battle.

Now rinnegan Madara can mimic Hashirama's mokuton on top of that and you call them even?

Madara used inzanagi for a reason...

wrong, sm Hashi fought Rennigan Madz and ended in a stalemate... if you are referring to the VOTE match it was sm Hashi vs ems Madz + kurama
Ren Madz vs sm Hashi DID happen and it DID end in a draw, we can say they were in a weakened state coz of edo but that's fore both of them

Mind you, when Madara absorbed Hashirama's SM chakra, he had no eyes.

but he had already used the black rods to immobilize Hashi, so what's your point?

 

[B00m]

Interesting argument seeing as we never got to see Madara with just 2 Rinnegan. I imagine he needed SM/senju DNA to perform his one eye Rinnegan techs. Just be interesting to see if Madara could perform any Rinnegan techs with just his "base" self without SM.

In my opinion I'd say SM Hashirama takes it, again you don't know what Madara would be capable of but SM Hashirama took on EMS(?) Madara plus Kyubi. If it's any comparison Pein struggled with the Kyubii and had practically no answer to SM Naruto.

 

[Xāvî1]

ohh yooo Rinnegan Madara > SM Hashirama

 

[VongolaX]

What kind of logic is that?
if upgraded Madz WAS equal to Hashi then how can normal Madz > Hashi...
That means normal Madz > upgraded Madz



They were both edo so it's completely relevant, naruto sensed limbo using sm so we don't know if hashi could or not



wrong, sm Hashi fought Rennigan Madz and ended in a stalemate... if you are referring to the VOTE match it was sm Hashi vs ems Madz + kurama
Ren Madz vs sm Hashi DID happen and it DID end in a draw, we can say they were in a weakened state coz of edo but that's fore both of them




but he had already used the black rods to immobilize Hashi, so what's your point?

Are you serious?

I posted off panel for a reason :|

After Hashirama took the kyuubi from Madara, the rest of the fight happened off panel.

They were both beat up and bleeding.

After Hashirama took the kyuubi, they were both fighting at full power.

Madara fought Hashirama without the kyuubi longer than he did with it.

 

[xxxLegacy]

I believe the guy was comparing Rinnegan Madara to Sage Hashirama, not Rikudou Madara to Sage Hashirama.

Rikudou Madara would obviously stomp Hashirama.

You mean Edo Madara witg Rinnengan ? No matter even he would destroy Sennin-Mode Hashirama. He has also Mokuton + (fake) Rinnengan. ....to much for Hashi

Sage mode GG

Hahah Limbo is untouchable and invisible for Hahi hmm