Rinnegan Immune to Ocular Genjutsu?

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I've heard many people say before that a Rinnegan user can be placed under genjutsu by a sharingan user (especially in Itachi vs Nagato threads). I don't see how that would work because the Rinnegan is technically a higher developed eye than the sharingan. I also believe we would have seen someone try an ocular genjutsu on Madara or Nagato by now if it had a chance of working. Itachi almost always defaults to ocular genjutsus in his fights but he didn't even try it against Nagato.

*Anyone looking to use the famous Jiraiya frog genjutsu defense: please don't forget that his genjutsu was used with sound.*
 
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rinnegan beets all

you guys are saying it now cos you guys are thinking that sasuke is about to get the rinnegan.. don't worry i will keep a look out for you guys what you say if he doesn't. and sasuke isn't getting the rinnegan that easily..it took madara 80 years. i bet the same will happen with sasuke

OT: No it can't repel Sharingan, Ms or EMS genjutsu
 

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No evidence that rinnegan ONLY users are "immune" to genjutsu(like Nagato. Not referring to Madara, who still has his sharingan abilities.) Furthermore, even sharingan users(the sharingan is the best of the 3 dojutsus with respect to genjutsu) are not "immune" to genjutsu and have been placed in genjutsu in the manga.
 

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you guys are saying it now cos you guys are thinking that sasuke is about to get the rinnegan.. don't worry i will keep a look out for you guys what you say if he doesn't. and sasuke isn't getting the rinnegan that easily..it took madara 80 years. i bet the same will happen with sasuke

OT: No it can't repel Sharingan, Ms or EMS genjutsu

Why wouldn't it be able to? The evolution of the Rinnegan is higher than the Sharingan. I feel like there's a reason why we've never even seen it be attempted. The effort to do it would be futile.

No evidence that rinnegan ONLY users are "immune" to genjutsu(like Nagato. Not referring to Madara, who still has his sharingan abilities.) Furthermore, even sharingan users(the sharingan is the best of the 3 dojutsus with respect to genjutsu) are not "immune" to genjutsu and have been placed in genjutsu in the manga.

That is a good point. It's hard to determine if a genjutsu from a lesser eye would work on a higher one because we've never seen it happen yet though.
 
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you guys are saying it now cos you guys are thinking that sasuke is about to get the rinnegan.. don't worry i will keep a look out for you guys what you say if he doesn't. and sasuke isn't getting the rinnegan that easily..it took madara 80 years. i bet the same will happen with sasuke

OT: No it can't repel Sharingan, Ms or EMS genjutsu

no i alwys say rinnegan beets all and now sasuke will be to strung... pain was vry strung too
 

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even people with sharingan can be put in genjutsu, just makes it harder. for instance, madara put obito in a genjutsu and he had MS.
 

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you guys are saying it now cos you guys are thinking that sasuke is about to get the rinnegan.. don't worry i will keep a look out for you guys what you say if he doesn't. and sasuke isn't getting the rinnegan that easily..it took madara 80 years. i bet the same will happen with sasuke

OT: No it can't repel Sharingan, Ms or EMS genjutsu

Why did you even bring up sasuke? There is a Bigger chance for sasuke gaining Rinnegan so fast aTm.
 

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even people with sharingan can be put in genjutsu, just makes it harder. for instance, madara put obito in a genjutsu and he had MS.

This is a good point as well and a good example. My only concern though is that Obito was willingly being placed under it. I don't mean to be totally denying the option that it's possible, it's just that it's hard to figure this out because we've never seen an all out battle between a sharingan and rinnegan.
 

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Why wouldn't it be able to? The evolution of the Rinnegan is higher than the Sharingan. I feel like there's a reason why we've never even seen it be attempted. The effort to do it would be futile.



That is a good point. It's hard to determine if a genjutsu from a lesser eye would work on a higher one because we've never seen it happen yet though.

Except the rinnegan isn't the evolution of the sharingan-it came before it. It's a completely different dojutsu with completely different abilities to the sharingan.
 

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Except the rinnegan isn't the evolution of the sharingan-it came before it. It's a completely different dojutsu with completely different abilities to the sharingan.

What do you mean it came before it? Didn't Kabuto and Madara both state that the Rinngean evolves from EMS?
 

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I don't recall reading such thing in the manga or the DB or the fanbooks, so no Rinnegan isn't immune to visual or sound genjutsu
 

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What do you mean it came before it? Didn't Kabuto and Madara both state that the Rinngean evolves from EMS?

My point is, usually when x evolves into y, y comes after x. Except as far as we know, the sage never had the sharingan or MS, so the rinnegan came first. More accurate to say that the sharingan is the devolved form of the rinnegan. Plus the 2 dojutsus have different abilities.
 
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My point is, usually when x evolves into y, y comes after x. Except as far as we know, the sage never had the sharingan or MS, so the rinnegan came first. More accurate to say that the sharingan is the devolved form the rinnegan. Plus the 2 dojutsus have different abilities.

Oh ok I see what you're getting at now. Thank you for clarifying.
 

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Why wouldn't it be able to? The evolution of the Rinnegan is higher than the Sharingan. I feel like there's a reason why we've never even seen it be attempted. The effort to do it would be futile.

If rinnegan was able to repel genjutsu then it would be flawless. no one could ever win against a rinnegan user that is why just for a weakness from kishimotos side rinnegan can't repel doujutsu genjutsu
 

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If rinnegan was able to repel genjutsu then it would be flawless. no one could ever win against a rinnegan user that is why just for a weakness from kishimotos side rinnegan can't repel doujutsu genjutsu

Has Kishi stated this at any time? Like I've been saying, if it's there in stone then I won't debate it but i'm looking for solid evidence.
 

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Rinnegan isn't immune to those doujustu genjustu.

It was never stated in the manga that it had no affect, just because it is a higher doujustu.

Those with kekkai genkai and ocular power of the Uchiha can break any forms of genjustu easily.

Idk KA
 

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