Rinnegan + EMS Madara is stronger than Hashirama

[Narutooo]

HERE GUYS THE FIGHT HASHIRAMA VS MADARA.. i guess this is right before Madara awakened the rinnegan

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[Bazarrow]

Finally, Madara is an Edo and I thınk he is not capable as real Madara and Hashirama. There should be a weakness of Edo that we dont know until now.

 

[Zaiigoukyou]

Did you guys forgot that It was 9 tails+Ems Madara vs. Hashirama? I'm not going to say Rinnegan Madara>Hashirama until the manga reveals Hashirama's full power.

Hashirama can control bijuu. The Nine tails was no use to Madara in the fight against hashirama. Wood jutsu >>>Nine tails. Look how easy Yammato controls Naruto's tailed forms and he only has a fraction of Hashirama's power.

It was really EMS Madara vs hashirama. Hashirama is still stronger then EMS Madara but he would have a tougher time dealing with the rinnegan then the nine tails.

reading the chapter makes me think madara now is stronger than hashirama but at the same time seeing kurama fight knowing that he is now just half of what he was, at the time he was fighting along side madara against hashirama, ems madara + kuby < hashirama.. i cant conclude any thing yet but i think we can somehow read the equation... i think it going to be the same result..

Again kuruma was useless in the fight against Hashirama. Wood jutsu is the Nine tails achilles heel. I agree Madara with the nine tails is stronger then Rinnegan Madara however the Nine tails is useless if its sealed.

Sealing jutsu seems to be its weakness.

Stated by another poster. Madara will have repulsion...propulsion.chakra absorbtion.. missles... arguebly chibuka tensai... on top of his ems abilities...


I really don't see how shodai could deal with those powers. He struggled against madara just with the EMS. rinnegan+ EMS Madara >>>>>>>> EMS Madara

The kyuubi was taken out of madaraa control so fast, so it wasnt that big of a factor.

Sorry for dual post but im using iphone :/.

Exactly.

no just no

How so?
Madara now has shinra tensai, propulsion, summonings, chakra absorbtion, Meteorites as a last resort,

It's a little overwhelming for the 1st Hokage....I would say madara with rinnegan and EMS would be slightly stronger.

Did you forget what Deva Path pain did to SM naruto alone???

Did you forget what Deva path pain did to an entire village alone??

Did you see what Nagato did to Killer Bee and KCm Naruto alone just with the rinnegan..

He manhandled two jins by himself with just the rinnegan..


Madara Has the rinnegan and EMS....

He has the ultimate ninjutsu, genjutsu, susunno, perception powers of the sharigan,,, and Nagato's powers...as well as more powerful chakra then Nagato....