Rinnegan disadvantage or weakness and more

[Uchicha Macho]

Nah, rinnegan's genjutsu opperates differently.

Kakashi saw nagato's rinnegan when pein struck him so did naruto.

The rod channel Nagato chakra ,since Kakashi got hit by the rod Nagato get to control his body for some sec to divert kakashi chidori away from deva body

 

[kakashi ms]

riningan can't do ginjutus but it can counter doujitsu's ginjutsu of course
obito didn't use ginjutsu on kakashi but he stood up only so he opened his eye while he was standing up as reaction

 

[KidGamer65]

I like how you are sprouting this nonsense with absolutely no proof. The rinnegan most likely aren't affected by visual genjutsu. The one that J-man did was a sound genjutsu, one that would have worked on anyone that could hear. Since logic eludes you continuously I do not expect you to understand even an iota of what anyone is telling you...

Wrong. Rinnegan doesn't have Genjutsu resistance. Unless you have a scan that says otherwise. When Rinnegan is awakened, the one who awakened it can utilitze his Sharingan abilities while using the Rinnegan, so that is the only way Rinnegan has Genjutsu resistance.

 

[King Of Crows]

It's true they can use the rinnegan better than everyone else, and i did read what he said in the bottom. If you look at my first post i gave him the correct info about Obito

How can you say that? Nagato has used the Rinnegan in the most versatile and effective way. Fully fledged Uchiha wont even be able to use the rinnegan because they don't have senju DNA in them. That is what Macho seems to not understand.

Wrong. Rinnegan doesn't have Genjutsu resistance. Unless you have a scan that says otherwise. When Rinnegan is awakened, the one who awakened it can utilitze his Sharingan abilities while using the Rinnegan, so that is the only way Rinnegan has Genjutsu resistance.

There are no scans of the Rinnegan falling for any visual genjutsu either, and with the rinnegan being hailed as the ultimate dojutsu one would assume they would not be affected by any visual genjutsu.

 

[KidGamer65]

How can you say that? Nagato has used the Rinnegan in the most versatile and effective way. Fully fledged Uchiha wont even be able to use the rinnegan because they don't have senju DNA in them. That is what Macho seems to not understand.

Rinnegan can only be used to its fullest when you have Senju and Uchiha's powers, not just Senju's powers.

 

[Uchicha Macho]

So because the Rinnegan doesn't allow you to do a move and its a disadvantage??? The Rinnegan is still a superior eye that counters more Sharingan techs than vice-versa

Obito's mastery is as good as Madara's and Nagato is superior to both with the Rinnegan, You whole Uchiha's with EMS use Rinnegan more effectively thing makes no sense bro.

rinnegan cannot also predict someone movement as we seen when the edo tailbeasts faught Naruto and killerbee in the forest

 

[Invsblphntm]

Nevermind. Uchicha just stop.

 

[VongolaX]

How can you say that? Nagato has used the Rinnegan in the most versatile and effective way. Fully fledged Uchiha wont even be able to use the rinnegan because they don't have senju DNA in them. That is what Macho seems to not understand.

An uchiha with senju dna/rinnegan can best nagato in the use of the rinnegan because all of those techniques are held within the stone tablet of the uchiha.
Obito was the one who taught nagato how to use the rinnegan techniques in the first place

 

[King Of Crows]

Rinnegan can only be used to its fullest when you have Senju and Uchiha's powers, not just Senju's powers.

Why're we arguing ? I agree that you would need uchiha and senju DNA to fully utilise them. UchihaMacho on the other hand seems to believe you need to be a fully fledged Uchiha ( so no senju DNA ) in order to be the best with the rinnegan...

 

[KidGamer65]

Why're we arguing ? I agree that you would need uchiha and senju DNA to fully utilise them. UchihaMacho on the other hand seems to believe you need to be a fully fledged Uchiha ( so no senju DNA ) in order to be the best with the rinnegan...

My bad.. I misread your post.

 

[Waltz]

Both unique Dōjutsu, one originally wielded by the Rikudō; the other's parentage lies within the attenuation of the Uchiha ancestors Dōujutsu. Different eyes, different abilities. You claim Obito's use of genjutsu on kakashi without actual evidences: a baseless argument.

Another thing is an non uchiha need a uchiha blood along with EMS to use rinnegan more effective.The uchiha blood line made for their eyes abilities .This is why Sasuke and Madara can swith to different eyes levels if they wanted.Nagato was not a uchiha ,he was not able to use Madara EMS or rinnegan at his effective as Madara using it now.Obito body is modify into senju dna from his accident,therefore half his body have senju body and half have uchiha body,he cannot use his rinnegan as effective an uchiha would.

Falsity. Endowing a "Non-Uchiha" with Uchiha genetic material and an "EMS" would simply mean that their Dōujutsu would be the 'Eien no Mangekyou Sharingan' and not the 'Rin'negan'. Uchiha DNA solely cannot cater for prime use of the Rin'negan abilities, specifically Gedou. A Non-Uchiha Rin'negan wielder/ An Uchiha who did not unlock the Rin'negan by it's regular course (implanting Senju-DNA -> Near death experience) but instead opted for Eye-transplant; needs Senju DNA to have such a control over the Mazou.

@Bold#2: You are unaware of the fact that 'Obito Uchiha' hails from the Uchiha clan? Also, the manga renders your argument that obito has limited control useless as the Rin'negan grants the user access to all it's abilities.

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[KidGamer65]

I don't see a scan to prove that?

I saw Nagato using all Six Paths without either of those, while Madara has shown Preta Path and Obito has shown Outer Path, both being combinations of Senju and Uchiha.

I don't see any evidence to prove that one either.

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The fact that Rinnegan needs both to awaken and that you need both powers to control the Mazo, its fairly obvious both powers will let you use the eye better. Same thing with Sharingan and Uchiha blood.

 

[GwemBaba]

@Kid Gamer 65

That is exactly what he just said, more or less.

OT: Well, to respond to you directly, it is unwise to make a thread about such, my current state of profile forbids me from providing links but, Nagato has displayed proficiency in Genjutsu through various techniques, the most prominent being when his Chakra blades make contact with a person's flesh, he utilises it. A Rinnegan technique.

There is too much we don't yet know about the Rinnegan, they clearly posses Genjutsu, but perhaps not on the Uchiha's level of range.

 

[Uchicha Macho]

Rinnegan user can predict movement by using animal path or someone they have control of like peins inorder for them to have a wide field of vision

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While a uchiha sharingan can predict movement naturally

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[kakashi ms]

i think the real disadvantage of the riningan is its defense
i mean the five seconds which between every shinra tensi
there are lot can make the best use of that as guy,third raikage,A..

 

[Uchicha Macho]

I believe The sage of 6 path was a uchiha who aquire senju dna by the jubi since The jubi have high chakra reserve and it can use woood release which hashirama can do

 

[King Of Crows]

I believe The sage of 6 path was a uchiha who aquire senju dna by the jubi since The jubi have high chakra reserve and it can use woood release which hashirama can do

........ Wtf. Are you high ?

Guys he is obviously a troll at this point -.-

 

[KidGamer65]

I believe The sage of 6 path was a uchiha who aquire senju dna by the jubi since The jubi have high chakra reserve and it can use woood release which hashirama can do

No. No. no. No. No.

No.

 

[Uchicha Macho]

........ Wtf. Are you high ?

Guys he is obviously a troll at this point -.-

the jubi was in the rikudou body for a while.When the 1 tail was remove from gaara he still have the one tail abilities.Rikudou maybe still get some chakra reserve from the jubi after it was extracted from his body and sealed

 

[Jako98146]

I'd scaresly call it a disadvantage
with rinnegan, they can use all 5 elemental justsu, 6 paths of pain bodies(Obito only with Edo tensei) and the 6 paths jutsu+Outer path