rinnegan and the gedo mazo

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So the gedo mazo could actually be created by hashirama to control the bijus (all of this is not confirmed yet) as it seems as it is made from wood. however we have seen every character that possesed rinnengan being able to summon it exept madara but it seems normal to me that he could since he basically owned it after hashiramas death. moreover if youthink about it if madara really gave his eyes to nagato then obito nagato and madara all of them possesed madaras eye's (yea even obito cause he took nagato's eyes which if madara gave his to nagato that makes the eyes obito took madara's eyes) so maybe there is a special contract to the gedo mazo summon and madaras eyes i do not think its the best theory but i just wanted to share it .
 
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Obito at one point said that he wished for sasuke to be the next one synced with the mazo. I suppose this implies that he was going to give sasuke madara's rinnegan.
 

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Yes, I forget what chapter it was though. To expound, Im thinking that plan was ruined when kabuto blackmailed him for sasuke so he took a rinnegan for himself
 

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not sure about hasihrama creating gedo mazo, it does seem like the best way for hasihrama to spread the beasts but its werid to me that no one has seen it if this hasihrama's power card if u know what i mean. HAsihrama u would think we famous because of this jutsu if its his.

Anyway im still a big believer that the rinnegan is needed as I think this something to do with the so6p and the juubi.
 

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Bro i made this thread 2 hourg ago ! Also the gedo mazo is NOT a rinnegan summoning because madara gaved his original eyes to someone yet the gedo mazo stil gives madara chakra and stayes with him in the cave.... Hashirama created gedo mazo and used it to store bijuus and hashirama givied bijuu to each vilage and also he use gedo mazo to battle madara
 

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Obito at one point said that he wished for sasuke to be the next one synced with the mazo. I suppose this implies that he was going to give sasuke madara's rinnegan.

I guess that could be one way to sync Sasuke with the statue but I did not think it meant give him his eyes. I do not think that summoning the statue has as much to do with the rinnegan as it has to do with a contract. I think it is a being that was created and like all other animals in the Narutoverse it can have contracts with humans that will allow them to summon it. I thought that is what Tobi was referring to when he said sync Sasuke with the statue. I also believe that when someone is synced with the statue they are able to draw chakra away from it to be used during battle. This would explain why Tobi is able to fight without ever showing signs of fatigue and how Nagato was able to pull off so many high end moves (yes I know he had massive chakra anyway but some of the things he did were very OP and should have needed a little help).
 

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Bro i made this thread 2 hourg ago ! Also the gedo mazo is NOT a rinnegan summoning because madara gaved his original eyes to someone yet the gedo mazo stil gives madara chakra and stayes with him in the cave.... Hashirama created gedo mazo and used it to store bijuus and hashirama givied bijuu to each vilage and also he use gedo mazo to battle madara
I saw your post and that got me thinking about hashi creating the gedo mazo although i had thougth of that in the past ( its not like i copied your thread mine had a different point to deliver )yea the thing that the gedo mazo stays with him does not mean something maybe the one that has madara's eyes has not summoned it yet and also nagato is going to summon it or has already summoned it i am not sure (i suppose if he ha thougth madara would have been dead)
 
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So the gedo mazo could actually be created by hashirama to control the bijus (all of this is not confirmed yet) as it seems as it is made from wood. however we have seen every character that possesed rinnengan being able to summon it exept madara but it seems normal to me that he could since he basically owned it after hashiramas death. moreover if youthink about it if madara really gave his eyes to nagato then obito nagato and madara all of them possesed madaras eye's (yea even obito cause he took nagato's eyes which if madara gave his to nagato that makes the eyes obito took madara's eyes) so maybe there is a special contract to the gedo mazo summon and madaras eyes i do not think its the best theory but i just wanted to share it .

1 thing i would like to throw into this pool of speculations is this. there might be multiple gedo mazo's.
-first of all pain summoned the gedo when his friend died during the flash back in the conflict against the salamander (guy who named jiraya's group the legendary sanin) and used it to kill those ninjas who were with the salamander.

-second the speculation that the gedo from the recent chapters of the manga might be madara's experimentation with harashima's body which may have resulted in the rule that ninjas be burned when they fell during missions so that they do not expose secrets of their clan/village/mission. because compare to the gedo pain summoned it is larger hence being a completely different gedo.

-third the gedo does not actually control bijuu's it suppresses them because harashima was never shown to control the 9 tails all we saw was his ability to restrain it and release it from madara's control. meaning that the sharingan is the only known tool to actually control bijuu's against their will.

-fourth is the fact that it is believed that the gedo that obito uses may actually be the shell of the 10tails. if this is true i believe that it is more like a compiler to properly compress all the bijuu's .so how does harashima's body/cells/(insert w/e shit that makes sense to you here) factor into the fact that it was artificially created.


what i do know is
-how obito survived and what he had been doing all these years
-the fact that his body melted ties directly with manga ch.603 since he had an artificial body just like zetsu(white / black) after taking severe damage from the rasengan.
-the spiral nature of his mask also now makes sense being covered by a zetsu.

now my question is shouldn't obito have been smaller since during that era(16+yrs ago when the kyuubi attacked konoha) they were kids(his ninja group obito+rin+kakashi)?
why not go after kakshi to recover his other sharingan to awaken his susanoo?
why waste the chance he had when he obtained the kyuubi all those years ago when he could've had it all those years ago and be done with it ?
when did the real madara die cause it looks like he set all these things in motion for his revival and why is his edo tensei form much younger than what the manga ch 602 reveals?
 
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