gerizzyYMcrew
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he called it "rinnegan"...meaning kishi called it "rinnegan"...meaning it's been referred to as "sharingan" and "rinnegan"
Rinne-Sharingan Vs Rinnengan
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gerizzyYMcrew
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One must possess Hagoromo's power in order to obtain Kaguya's power. This is common sense because Kaguya's power is essentially the combination of both Hagoromo's and Hamura's in addition to the Shinju. Kaguya's RinneSharingan should contain both powers, not sure why this wouldn't be the case.
The appearance means nothing. The Sharingan originating from it means nothing. The RinneSharingan being a combination is in no way supported by the Databook.
Sasuke, let alone Kishimoto himself, did not call the RinneSharingan a Rinnegan. Sasuke said Infinite Tsukuyomi is a Rinnegan technique. He said nothing about the eye himself. The only two times the eye itself is being referred to, it is exclusively only said to have the Sharingan powers.
That's really stupid considering sasuke didn't even knew its name
People have called minato's ftg shunshin so you are gonna say ftg is shunshin because kishi said it
One must posses indrs and asura's power to get hagoromo's power does that mean Rinnegan can do everything that sharingan can.nope
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Sharingan isn't a requirement for the Rinnegan yet the Rinnegan evidently was for Madara's acquisition of the Rinne-Sharingan. Perhaps it would've been more accurate had I claimed that the Rinne-Sharingan is the derivation of the Rinnegan and Juubi. Different connotation I suppose ...
gerizzyYMcrew
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too bad kishi clearly laid out the difference between body flicker and flying thunder god later in the series
yes in madara's case but not in kaguya's case
yes but Rinne sharingan gives the kaguya access to Amenominaka and IT and the dojutsu later mutated into hagoromo's rinnegan which further mutated into Indra's sharingan.You can see all her jutsu are taijutsu except anything juubi related Amenominaka and IT and maybe YH can't say about that since BZ used it
All are different dojutsu though.Kaguya cannot use any of MS power which is advanced form of a dojutsu derived from her Rinnesharingan
Rinnegan grants user Six path powers none of which kaguya showed[even her chakra absorption differs from PP].Black zetsu specifically stated only 2 person were able to awaken Rinnegan Hagoromo and Madara uchiha[before sasuke awakaned it/was givem it]
its basically same as Juubi cannot use lava;boil;magnet release but the bijuus formed from it can
what :lol
you should just shut up at this point since they called it Body flicker after kishi clearly laid out the difference between body flicker and flying thunder in Databook [
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]the reason they don't know either about FT same as sasuke not knowing about Rinne sharingan
Lol :lol
Its not Preta path.She can basically absorb all jutsu and chakra [
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] she has been absorbing chakra's out of IT victims and thats not Preta Path[
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]add the fact the usage differs from PP when she tried to absorb naruto's bijuu FRS barrage
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SenseiSama
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Actually that's not true, Rinnegan is required to unlock RinneSharingan but Rinnegan can't be unlocked without Sharingan chakra. In the end of the day, Sharingan and Rinnegan are both required to unlock Kaguya's dojutsu.
It's why Naruto didn't unlock Hagoromo's dojutsu after receiving his chakra, he needs the eyes of an Indra incarnate because only Indra's eyes can evolve into Rinnegan
The way I see it he wasn't referring to IT being a Rinnegan technique but more of the jutsu being used by someone that had Rinnegan chakra.
Tomoe Rinnegan gave Sasuke the chakra quality to counter Kaguya's genjutsu the same way Indra's eye power gave him the ability to counter Itachi's genjutsu without MS. But just because he countered the illusion doesn't mean he can actually reproduce it.
Although I may be wrong because Hagoromo's dojutsu was said to grant the ability to master any technique and Sasuke's dojutsu is more advanced.
NextGenNinja
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Are you sure that's preta path? Preta path uses a barrier to absorb jutsu, while kaguya's body itself absorbs jutsu. Hell, is that even a ability given by the rinnesharingan?
Did you miss v2 bee vs nagato?? i dont see why or how her chakra absorption is any different, she absorbed amaterasu in the same manner madara did against sasuke, and again, a barrier does'nt have to be formed with the examples i gave above you should get that. And even naruto knew he can't be throwing attacks at her cuz she can absorb it,why do you think he thought that?? because he knew what the rinnegan can do, and lastly she was absorbing there chakra by making contact with them like how preta path did against SM naruto (though not the exact similar manner but contact was made) so yes that is preta path, even momos chakra absorption was called preta path eventhough it was kind of advanced.
- and as i said, kaguya posses all 3 doujutsu, all doujutsu's originated from her that is (byakugan, sharingan and rinnegan)
- The data book further proves this point by calling the doujutsu rinnesharingan and explaining what it is and that it has both sharingan and rinnegan powers. IT was never stated that the rinnesharingan has all MS techniques so bringing this up is irrelevant
- it was foreshadowed that the sharingan came from the rinnegan (which is the rinnesharingan)
- In the manga madara says "anyone who possesses the power of the rinne" which is pretty much rinnegan
- sasuke says "a genjutsu created with a rinnegan, can probably be canceled by another rinnegan" which proves rinnesharingan is a rinnegan
- when the rinnesharingan reflected to the people/animals on Earth, there eyes became normal rinnegan not rinnesharingan
all these points put together makes this a hardcore fact.
The Messiah
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The only thing I don't fully agree with is the bold. Madara didn't have rinnegan when he absorbed amaterasu and I doubt that was regular preta path Momoshiki was using since he was able to absorb techniques AND SEND THEM BACK WITH MORE POWER, which is something no other rinnegan user has shown the ability to do. It was probably his special rinnegan technique like how Madara has limbo and Sasuke has ameno.
I think Madara and Kaguya might just know a special chakra absorption technique. (I'm not to sure about this though)
NextGenNinja
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Nagato absorbed bee's chakra when bee landed a lariat on him, that's not the same as absorbing jutsu when it comes in contact with kaguya's body. Madara didn't even have a rinnegan when he got revived?!? Naruto knew that because gee idk, BZ friggin told him that kaguya can absorb "any and all" jutsu? Naruto's not that stupid, ya know. Absorbing chakra directly from the enemies body isn't new, even fodders back at the chunin exam in part one can do that. I guess, that means they have rinnegan too, eh? Momo's absorption ability isn't PP either. It's more than likely his exclusive rinnegan tech like how madara has limbo or sasuke's ameno.
She has the byakugan and sharingan powers, but rinnegan? It seems more like a mutation hagoromo has.
Where was it stated it had rinnegan powers? The manga just said it had sharingan powers and i wasn't going to mention that but OK.
It came from rinnesharingan, not rinnegan.
Yes, the rinnegan is needed to bring it out but that still doesn't mean the eye itself is a rinnegan & shairngan combo.
That was more like a guess, sasuke obviously doesn't know the name of kaguya's doujutsu.
I know, that still doesn't mean rinnesharingan can use rinnegan abilities.
More like your hardcore assumption on something that wasn't elaborated that much in either the databook or the manga.
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i think there are doujutsu abilities that dont require the eyes once awakened, like susano and preta, since they were used without the eyes, but limbo/ama/tsuki/kamui all require the eyes to be present, naruto told sasuke that madara can absorb chakra (and naruto only knows bout preta path and no other merhod)
gerizzyYMcrew
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AND IN THE MANGA...DUMBASS...flying thunder god is space-time ninjutsu...those without access to such ninjutsu can still use body flicker (see raikage)
You said preta path uses a barrier to absorb chakra, i gave you an example of a scene that required no barrier, yet you're still denying?? well whatever man, suit yourself, dont bother requoting me