Rinne-Sharingan Madara vs Adult Sasuke

[KidGamer65]

The chidori is supposed to be a piercing jutsu but it has side destructive power ,chidori nagashi has no piercing power but destructive one ,so basically ,if really what are you saying was right ,then the meteor should have been cut into half ,but that isn't the case here ,the meteor was destroyed ,that leads me to think that sasuke used wide range chidori nagashi to destroy the meteor

Chidori Nagashi has no explosive power, so you are wrong there. Lol @ Chidori Nagashi destroying the Meteor. Chidori Nagashi is used to paralyze opponents, it carries little to no destructive power at all. Sasuke in Part 1 was making small craters with Chidori despite those craters being larger than the width of his hand.

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But ,the chakra won't flow like that unless if sasuke forced it to do or if there was a water ,it looks like a chidori nagashi more and more

Except it did, and it wasn't Nagashi. Not to mention if Chidori Nagashi went from dealing zero destructive damage to obliterating a meteor in the course of 2 years, my point would still stand. His Ninjutsu got a buff due to training, Susanoo gets the same buff.

So the raikiri is a chidori that possess more chakra ,however it didn't got bigger

It possesses more chakra focused into a single point, but since Sasuke isn't doing that (otherwise he'd using Raikiri and not Chidori) it's irreleant.

Needs to explain the focusing part and how that is difference

How is that different? Are we joking? We are talking about adding chakra to a Ninjutsu, not focusing chakra to one part of the body. There is no addition to anything going on there.

 

[wael reda]

Chidori Nagashi has no explosive power, so you are wrong there. Lol @ Chidori Nagashi destroying the Meteor. Chidori Nagashi is used to paralyze opponents, it carries little to no destructive power at all. Sasuke in Part 1 was making small craters with Chidori despite those craters being larger than the width of his hand.

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Okey ,I agree that chidori can destroy big rocks ,but it shouldnt have flown through the meteor like that
Also chidori nagashi has paralyzing properties against people but it has destructive properties against rocks and wood just like any other lightening jutsu ,just like how sasuke's all body chidori paralyzed naruto and said ,however it oliberated yamato's wood that was in its range

Not to mention ,we never saw how big is the chidori that last sasuke used , we didnt see how much damage vote 2 sasuke's chidori can do to the rocks ,the scan that you uses to show the AOE of the chidori and rasengan clash doesn't show anything ,that blast was caused due to the two chakra clashing ,chidori isn't even supposed to have a blast ,so this scan doesn't show what a chidori would do if it hit a big rock

Except it did, and it wasn't Nagashi. Not to mention if Chidori Nagashi went from dealing zero destructive damage to obliterating a meteor in the course of 2 years, my point would still stand. His Ninjutsu got a buff due to training, Susanoo gets the same buff.

Again chdiro nagashi is as any other lightening jutsu ,has a destructive properties against rock ,and again the chidori's flowing through the meteor shows that either it was bigger or he used wide range chidori nagashi

It possesses more chakra focused into a single point, but since Sasuke isn't doing that (otherwise he'd using Raikiri and not Chidori) it's irreleant.

It is irrelevant what sasuke calls it ,it doesn't change the fact that kaskashi was able to use bigger amount of chakra without the jutsu getting bigger

How is that different? Are we joking? We are talking about adding chakra to a Ninjutsu, not focusing chakra to one part of the body. There is no addition to anything going on there.

I though you said chakra arm ,which is bassically as ninjutsu ,its size can differ ,so with your logic the chakra arm should have gotten bigger ,but that didn't happen ,the chakra arm was empowered with much more chakra ,however it didn't get bigger

 

[KidGamer65]

Okey ,I agree that chidori can destroy big rocks ,but it shouldnt have flown through the meteor like that
Also chidori nagashi has paralyzing properties against people but it has destructive properties against rocks and wood just like any other lightening jutsu ,just like how sasuke's all body chidori paralyzed naruto and said ,however it oliberated yamato's wood that was in its range

It did that because that's what it does after that much time has passed. "Lightning traveling across the meteor" is an irrelevant argument.

It cracked Yamato's tiny ass Mokuton tendril. Paralyzing someone isn't a destructive feat.

Not to mention ,we never saw how big is the chidori that last sasuke used , we didnt see how much damage vote 2 sasuke's chidori can do to the rocks ,the scan that you uses to show the AOE of the chidori and rasengan clash doesn't show anything ,that blast was caused due to the two chakra clashing ,chidori isn't even supposed to have a blast ,so this scan doesn't show what a chidori would do if it hit a big rock

The combined blast of an enhanced Chidori and Rasengan obliterated most of Madara and Hashirama's Statues at VoTE. That Meteor>>Hashirama and Madara's Statues in size. Sasuke's Chidori on it's own obliterated said meteor. We've seen how much power
Chidori gained and how much damage it did at VoTe, you only have to read the manga.

Lol. dafuq? The blast was caused by the combined power of Chidori and Rasengan. That simple. "Chidori not having an explosion" is irrelevant. Rasengan obviously doesn't have that kind of explosion yet the two attacks made that explosion.

Again chdiro nagashi is as any other lightening jutsu ,has a destructive properties against rock ,and again the chidori's flowing through the meteor shows that either it was bigger or he used wide range chidori nagashi

No it doesn't, go read the manga panels where he used Chidori Nagashi and show me where it does anything that'd even begin to imply it'd destroy a normal rock let alone a giant Meteor. Not to mention you are pretty much giving me irrelevant arguments at this point. I don't care whether or not he used Chidori or Chidori Nagashi. If it got that much stronger, it's because of his chakra's strength, not because he put more chakra into the jutsu, something you've failed to prove despite this being your 4th post I believe.

It wasn't bigger, and I've already shown you why it wasn't bigger, and if you believe it was bigger, you better show me pics of it being bigger. But that's impossible since pics don't show it being any bigger than usual. Same thing at VoTE. Kept the same size, but is much stronger than it was during the beginning of Part 2.

Not to mention Chidori Nagashi is used throughout the whole body. That's not how Sasuke used it in The Last. He used it with his hand, he didn't release it from his body, so no, it wasn't Chidori Nagashi and anyone who watched the movie w/o some kind of agenda (like you have here) knows that it was Chidori, not Chidori Nagashi.

It is irrelevant what sasuke calls it ,it doesn't change the fact that kaskashi was able to use bigger amount of chakra without the jutsu getting bigger

Chidori and Raikiri look different. Chidori doesn't look like Raikri. Sasuke is not doing what Kakashi did, so stop using this point.

I though you said chakra arm ,which is bassically as ninjutsu ,its size can differ ,so with your logic the chakra arm should have gotten bigger ,but that didn't happen ,the chakra arm was empowered with much more chakra ,however it didn't get bigger

Nope, not a chakra arm. His arm.

 

[wael reda]

It did that because that's what it does after that much time has passed. "Lightning traveling across the meteor" is an irrelevant argument.

It cracked Yamato's tiny ass Mokuton tendril. Paralyzing someone isn't a destructive feat.

Again ,you ignore this point ,chidori nagashi is just like anyother lightening jutsu ,it has destructive properties against rock despite its paralyzing properties against humans

The combined blast of an enhanced Chidori and Rasengan obliterated most of Madara and Hashirama's Statues at VoTE. That Meteor>>Hashirama and Madara's Statues in size. Sasuke's Chidori on it's own obliterated said meteor. We've seen how much power
Chidori gained and how much damage it did at VoTe, you only have to read the manga.

Lol. dafuq? The blast was caused by the combined power of Chidori and Rasengan. That simple. "Chidori not having an explosion" is irrelevant. Rasengan obviously doesn't have that kind of explosion yet the two attacks made that explosion.

Yes that is my point ,the blast size doesn't show what a chidori would do if it hit a rock ,that is just an assumption from you

No it doesn't, go read the manga panels where he used Chidori Nagashi and show me where it does anything that'd even begin to imply it'd destroy a normal rock let alone a giant Meteor. Not to mention you are pretty much giving me irrelevant arguments at this point. I don't care whether or not he used Chidori or Chidori Nagashi. If it got that much stronger, it's because of his chakra's strength, not because he put more chakra into the jutsu, something you've failed to prove despite this being your 4th post I believe.

Lol,any lightening jutsu has destructive properties against rock ,also if it is really a wide range chidoti nagashi ,then it shows my point not yours since we haven't seen vote 2 sassuke's chidori nagashi ,and also because sasuke used very wide range chidori nagashi ,that means he used more chakra

It wasn't bigger, and I've already shown you why it wasn't bigger, and if you believe it was bigger, you better show me pics of it being bigger. But that's impossible since pics don't show it being any bigger than usual. Same thing at VoTE. Kept the same size, but is much stronger than it was during the beginning of Part 2.

Lol,there is no even pics shows if it is bigger or not ,all that is just assumption s from both of us

Not to mention Chidori Nagashi is used throughout the whole body. That's not how Sasuke used it in The Last. He used it with his hand, he didn't release it from his body, so no, it wasn't Chidori Nagashi and anyone who watched the movie w/o some kind of agenda (like you have here) knows that it was Chidori, not Chidori Nagashi.

No,chidori nagashi can be used through the hand like he did against itachi
No ,not anyone would say it is chidori ,not when we clearly saw the lightening chakra flow through the whole meteor ,that won't happen if it is just regular sized chidori ,The chakra won't flow like that unless sasuke did so


Agenda? Please,I just say that no way sasuke trained his chakra to be even stronger than the rikudo and kaguya's chakra Lol ,don't rain the debate with words like that ,I have no agenda here ,not when I clearly see chidori flow through the meteor which won't happen if it was regular sized chidori and you know that

Chidori and Raikiri look different. Chidori doesn't look like Raikri. Sasuke is not doing what Kakashi did, so stop using this point.

Why is that irrelevant ? That is right in the topic,kakashi puts more chakra without the jutsu getting bigger

Nope, not a chakra arm. His arm.

Uh ,really!!? Okey

 

[KidGamer65]

Again ,you ignore this point ,chidori nagashi is just like anyother lightening jutsu ,it has destructive properties against rock despite its paralyzing properties against humans

What rock?

Yes that is my point ,the blast size doesn't show what a chidori would do if it hit a rock ,that is just an assumption from you

That shows EXACTLY what it'd do, but there would be no giant blast like that. It'd be weaker than that since that blast is Rasengan + Chidori.

Lol,any lightening jutsu has destructive properties against rock ,also if it is really a wide range chidoti nagashi ,then it shows my point not yours since we haven't seen vote 2 sassuke's chidori nagashi ,and also because sasuke used very wide range chidori nagashi ,that means he used more chakra

Irrelevant. Chidori is stronger than any of it's variants, including Nagashi. Same thing applies here. Don't need to see his Nagashi to know that it's way weaker.

Lol, and then you'll have to prove that a Chidori Nagashi that large can destroy a meteor that large even though a Chidori Nagashi the size of a human can't even damage a human's body. Even though a Nagashi the size of a human's only feat is destroying a branch many times smaller than it.

Lol,there is no even pics shows if it is bigger or not ,all that is just assumption s from both of us

I suggest you watch the movie. If it was so much larger that it could obliterate that meteor, we would see the outline of this much larger Chidori. Unless you can show me this, you have no point.

No,chidori nagashi can be used through the hand like he did against itachi

Ok. Doesn't really change anything though.

No ,not anyone would say it is chidori ,not when we clearly saw the lightening chakra flow through the whole meteor ,that won't happen if it is just regular sized chidori ,The chakra won't flow like that unless sasuke did so

Except Chidori Nagashi isn't powerful enough to destroy a rock, and if it did get that powerful, then my point stands. Making it as large as said rock isn't going to do anything when it doesn't do shit to things just as large as itself in a weaker state.

Based on what exactly? The only place you've gotten this argument is from your belief that it wasn't Chidori. That's not a basis.

Agenda? Please,I just say that no way sasuke trained his chakra to be even stronger than the rikudo and kaguya's chakra Lol ,don't rain the debate with words like that ,I have no agenda here ,not when I clearly see chidori flow through the meteor which won't happen if it was regular sized chidori and you know that

If only anyone ever claimed that. But yeah, to anyone watching the movie with a clear mind, it's obvious that he used Chidori. It's ridiculous how you people come up with stuff like Shinra Tensei Chidori (Not You) and Chidori Nagashi. Lol.

You claimed that Chidori Nagashi flowed through the meteor, and caused an explosion, because that's not that Chidori does according to you, even though that's not how Nagashi works either. Please watch this video carefully before replying to me again, because this is starting to get ridiculous.

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-Since when did Chidori Nagashi spread across the target so quickly?

-Since when did Chidori Nagashi make a spark? (Never, it only spreads lightning throughout the target)

-Since when did Chidori Nagashi spread across the target, and then vanish? (If that was Nagashi, it would have spread throughout the rock and destroyed it like it did to Yamato's branch, it wouldn't have spread, disappeared, and then blown it up)

-Since when did Chidori Nagashi ever cause any kind of explosion?

Never, never, never, and never. Chidori Nagashi spreads across the target continuously, and numbs them. It doesn't explode or carry any significant destructive power let alone enough power to obliterate a rock, even after 2 years of training. (as seen both times it was used)

Why is that irrelevant ? That is right in the topic,kakashi puts more chakra without the jutsu getting bigger

Once again. Is Sasuke using Raikiri? NO. If Sasuke were doing what Kakashi does to use Raikiri, his Chidori would look like Raikiri, not like Chidori...but it doesn't, meaning you are wrong.

 

[wael reda]

What rock?

Lol,doton is weak against lightening ,that is a simple fact

That shows EXACTLY what it'd do, but there would be no giant blast like that. It'd be weaker than that since that blast is Rasengan + Chidori.

Assumptions

Irrelevant. Chidori is stronger than any of it's variants, including Nagashi. Same thing applies here. Don't need to see his Nagashi to know that it's way weaker.

Lol,that doesn't change my point ,that doesn't mean if he used chidori nagashi of the meteor's size ,then the meteor won't be destroyed ,since chidori basically can destroy rocks that is much bigger than it Lol

Lol, and then you'll have to prove that a Chidori Nagashi that large can destroy a meteor that large even though a Chidori Nagashi the size of a human can't even damage a human's body. Even though a Nagashi the size of a human's only feat is destroying a branch many times smaller than it.

Lol,again the lightening attacks have paralyzing/piercing properties against humans but it has destructive properties against doton ,it is like if chidori ever destroyed human body just like it does to rocks
The chidori nagashi destroyed just that part of yamato's wood because that was the only part at the nagashi range
If chidori can destroy rocks much bigger than its size ,then yes chidori nagashi of the meteor size should be able to destroy that meteor

I suggest you watch the movie. If it was so much larger that it could obliterate that meteor, we would see the outline of this much larger Chidori. Unless you can show me this, you have no point.

But there is no also pics show it as a regular sized chidori

Ok. Doesn't really change anything though.

Lol

Except Chidori Nagashi isn't powerful enough to destroy a rock, and if it did get that powerful, then my point stands. Making it as large as said rock isn't going to do anything when it doesn't do shit to things just as large as itself in a weaker state.

Except you have no evidence that chidori nagashi can't destroy a rock ,if regular chidori can destroy rocks that much bigger than it ,then yes it is highly possible that chidori nagashi can destroy rocks of its size

Based on what exactly? The only place you've gotten this argument is from your belief that it wasn't Chidori. That's not a basis.

Since we never saw chidori flow through the rocks it destroys

If only anyone ever claimed that. But yeah, to anyone watching the movie with a clear mind, it's obvious that he used Chidori. It's ridiculous how you people come up with stuff like Shinra Tensei Chidori (Not You) and Chidori Nagashi. Lol.

It looks like a chidori nagashi more than a regular sized chidori

You claimed that Chidori Nagashi flowed through the meteor, and caused an explosion, because that's not that Chidori does according to you, even though that's not how Nagashi works either. Please watch this video carefully before replying to me again, because this is starting to get ridiculous.

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-Since when did Chidori Nagashi spread across the target so quickly?

-Since when did Chidori Nagashi make a spark? (Never, it only spreads lightning throughout the target)

-Since when did Chidori Nagashi spread across the target, and then vanish? (If that was Nagashi, it would have spread throughout the rock and destroyed it like it did to Yamato's branch, it wouldn't have spread, disappeared, and then blown it up)

-Since when did Chidori Nagashi ever cause any kind of explosion?

Never, never, never, and never. Chidori Nagashi spreads across the target continuously, and numbs them. It doesn't explode or carry any significant destructive power let alone enough power to obliterate a rock, even after 2 years of training. (as seen both times it was used)

All that doesn't apply on the chidori either Lol

Once again. Is Sasuke using Raikiri? NO. If Sasuke were doing what Kakashi does to use Raikiri, his Chidori would look like Raikiri, not like Chidori...but it doesn't, meaning you are wrong.

Lol,ignore assume now ,kakashi uses more chakra without the jutsu getting bigger ,so yes some can make his jutsu stronger by putting more chairs without the jutsu getting bigger


Do you you want to say that sasuke by training made his chakra stronger than the rikudo and kaguya's ?

 

[Unorthodox]

If i knew this would have gotten this hot i would not have left the thread

Sasuke mops come at me Madara fans

 

[KidGamer65]

Lol,doton is weak against lightening ,that is a simple fact

Waiting for you to tell me how this is relevant.

Assumptions

Nope. That's what the manga shows. "Assumptions" isn't a counter argument.

Chidori and Rasengan clash.

Surrounding statues are destroyed because of said clash.

That simple.

Lol,that doesn't change my point ,that doesn't mean if he used chidori nagashi of the meteor's size ,then the meteor won't be destroyed ,since chidori basically can destroy rocks that is much bigger than it Lol

Lol, and why are you using Chidori's feats for Chidori Nagashi? Nagashi encountered a target the same size as it when Sasuke used it against Itachi and against Team Kakashi....yet no damage was taken, meaning it can't do shit to anything the same size as it.

Lol,again the lightening attacks have paralyzing/piercing properties against humans but it has destructive properties against doton ,it is like if chidori ever destroyed human body just like it does to rocks

Lol, pulling stuff out of your ass now huh? It can pierce rocks, it can pierce the ground just like it pierces humans, not to mention this is irrelevant since it never did ANY damage to them, whether piercing or

The chidori nagashi destroyed just that part of yamato's wood because that was the only part at the nagashi range

Irrelevant.

If chidori can destroy rocks much bigger than its size ,then yes chidori nagashi of the meteor size should be able to destroy that meteor

Chidori is NOT Chidori Nagashi. Chidori is stronger by feats. They do not work the same. Chidori Nagashi can't do shit to objects the same size as it, so the same applies to the meteor.

But there is no also pics show it as a regular sized chidori

The fact that you see no outline that'd imply it's much larger foils your assertion. That simple.

Except you have no evidence that chidori nagashi can't destroy a rock ,if regular chidori can destroy rocks that much bigger than it ,then yes it is highly possible that chidori nagashi can destroy rocks of its size

You have zero evidence for half the stuff you are claiming. Stop giving Chidori's feats to Chidori Nagashi when Chidori is stronger, and doesn't even begin to work in the samw

Since we never saw chidori flow through the rocks it destroys

You have now.

It looks like a chidori nagashi more than a regular sized chidori

Except it doesn't.

All that doesn't apply on the chidori either Lol

Except that's irrelevant. That's only to show you that you have zero reason to believe that Chidori Nagashi did what it did. I already have evidence that Chidori was used.

Not to mention Chidori causing some kind of explosion and destroying objects much larger than it is much more likely than Chidori Nagashi doing it, given it's performance throughout the whole series, so no. Evidence for Nagashi being used=0. Evidence for Chidori being used=More than enough to prove my case.

Lol,ignore assume now ,kakashi uses more chakra without the jutsu getting bigger ,so yes some can make his jutsu stronger by putting more chairs without the jutsu getting bigger

Unless you can prove that is what Sasuke is doing, there is no dice. That simple.

Do you you want to say that sasuke by training made his chakra stronger than the rikudo and kaguya's ?

Dafuq? Please explain to me how you got this from my argument.

 

[wael reda]

Lol,this is just gonna go forever especially after i saw your reply "you have now " Lol I'll try to make my point clearer as possible as I can ,and that would be my last post
Firstly ,let's call the jutsu that sasuke used to destroy the meteor a lightening jutsu

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This pic shows that your claim that it is regular sized chidori is completely worng ,no it was meteor sized lightening jutsu ,whether you like it or not,the lightening that contains the meteor is made of chakra ,it isn't fireworks

So it is either a huge chidori or a wide range chidori nagashi ,if you don't think it is chidori nagashi ,then it is huge chidori ,but no way it is regular sized chidori

Nope. That's what the manga shows. "Assumptions" isn't a counter argument.

Chidori and Rasengan clash.

Surrounding statues are destroyed because of said clash.

That simple

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Even with your assumptions ,vote 2 out of chakra sasuke chidori should be able to destroy something bigger than one of the two statues ,I don't think that is far below the meteor size Lol (hint : the blast has extended that its upper borders was above the statues's head)

and why are you using Chidori's feats for Chidori Nagashi? Nagashi encountered a target the same size as it when Sasuke used it against Itachi and against Team Kakashi....yet no damage was taken, meaning it can't do shit to anything the same size as it.
pulling stuff out of your ass now huh? It can pierce rocks, it can pierce the ground just like it pierces humans, not to mention this is irrelevant since it never did ANY damage to them, whether piercing or
Chidori is NOT Chidori Nagashi. Chidori is stronger by feats. They do not work the same. Chidori Nagashi can't do shit to objects the same size as it, so the same applies to the meteor.

I amont giving chidori feats for chidori nagashi ,chidori can destroy rocks much bigger than it ,while I am saying that chidori nagashi should be able to destroy a rock of its size

Humans arent a standard for the jutsu impact on rocks ,against kakazu ,FRS made a huge crater in the ground while kakazu was still there ,the same applies on rasengan ,we havent see rasengan destroy a human into pieces like it does to rocks ,the same applies on chidori ,yes it pierces rocks but its destructive properties destroy the rocks too ,while we haven't seen a chidori destroy a human

Lol,the size is irrelevant ,as long ad the durability is the same and as long as the jutsu impact on the single point is the same

Unless you can prove that is what Sasuke is doing, there is no dice. That simple

Yes ,sasuke doesn't necessarily do that ,but I just wanted to show you that you can use bigger chakra without the jutsu getting bigger

Dafuq? Please explain to me how you got this from my argument.

Yes you think that sasuke by training will make his chakra surpass the rikudo boost ,and you think that his PS would in a level that can easily beat a PS of someone who literally has kaguya chakra(aside from the chakra that comes from the people inside the IT ,which is irrelevant here since it doesn't make her chakra stronger but bigger)

You didn't only assume that it is a regular sized chidori and it just got stronger ,you didn't only assume that his PS would be empowered with the same scale but you also assummed that sassuke would keep training his chakra (like if there is no limits for that Lol) to be even much stronger than it was in the last to the level that his normal PS would surpass biju PS ,that is a clear wank here ,bro Lol

 

[wael reda]

KidGammer ,as I said ,even with your all assumptions ,you are still wrong ,I'll make it much clear now
Your assumptions:
1-sasuke destroyed this part of the meteor with regular sized chidori like the one he used in the end of vote2 ,he didn't add any bigger amount of chakra,he just trained his chakra to be stronger
2-vote 2 sasuke's chidori AOE is half of the blast resulted from the chidori and rasengan clash

Here is how big the meteor is compared to a face of the hokage faces curved on that mountain

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Here is the blast resulted from the chidori and rasengan clash

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But the blast has extended that his upper borders were above the statues

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So ,we can deduce that ,the final blast was nearly like that

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Half of that is bigger than a single statue ,if we as summed that the single face of the hokage's faces on that mountain is as big as the single statue's face ,you would find that vote 2 sasuke's chidori AOE is enough to destroy that part of the meteor
Conclusion: vote sasuke's chidori can achieve the last sasuke's chidori's feats meaning sasuke's chakra didn't get any stronger
GG

 

[Dantee]

KidGammer ,as I said ,even with your all assumptions ,you are still wrong ,I'll make it much clear now
Your assumptions:
1-sasuke destroyed this part of the meteor with regular sized chidori like the one he used in the end of vote2 ,he didn't add any bigger amount of chakra,he just trained his chakra to be stronger
2-vote 2 sasuke's chidori AOE is half of the blast resulted from the chidori and rasengan clash

Here is how big the meteor is compared to a face of the hokage faces curved on that mountain

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Here is the blast resulted from the chidori and rasengan clash

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But the blast has extended that his upper borders were above the statues

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So ,we can deduce that ,the final blast was nearly like that

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Half of that is bigger than a single statue ,if we as summed that the single face of the hokage's faces on that mountain is as big as the single statue's face ,you would find that vote 2 sasuke's chidori AOE is enough to destroy that part of the meteor
Conclusion: vote sasuke's chidori can achieve the last sasuke's chidori's feats meaning sasuke's chakra didn't get any stronger
GG

rofl that meteor was big enough to decimate the whole vilage. VOTe 2 blast isn't even comparable. You can't scale pictures based on drawings unless you're a moron. Drawings aren't perfect, especially between animes and the manga. It's not possible but I can say for a fact the village >>>>>VOTE statues.

 

[wael reda]

rofl that meteor was big enough to decimate the whole vilage. VOTe 2 blast isn't even comparable. You can't scale pictures based on drawings unless you're a moron. Drawings aren't perfect, especially between animes and the manga. It's not possible but I can say for a fact the village >>>>>VOTE statues.

meteors destroy things much much bigger than its size
Your claim that I can't use manga and anime drawing because it isn't accurate shows that I have showed my point very well
So you want me to agree with you that this part of the meteor the last assume destroyed is much bigger than half of the blast resulted from vote 2 chidori and rasengan clash though the many a drawings show otherwise!!?
Sorry ,The Meteor's size according to Manga and anime drawing ,is much reliable than your opinion ,whether you like it or not

 

[Dantee]

meteors destroy things much much bigger than its size
Your claim that I can't use manga and anime drawing shows that I have showed my point very well

Can you say for certain the anime team is going to completely scale every single detail of the hokage mountain to line up with your vs thread theory? rofl their paychecks don't revolve around making sure we know exactly how big each mountain is compared to each other. Take a step back and realize what you're implying.

-The anime team and the people who draw manga correlate perfectly.
- Every last detail of the manga is drawn to scale no matter the point of view, the distance of explosions.
-Kishi and the anime team are perfect artist.

and Sasuke used chidori combined with his amaterasu at vote 2 but your claim as a whole is absurd.

 

[wael reda]

Can you say for certain the anime team is going to completely scale every single detail of the hokage mountain to line up with your vs thread theory? rofl their paychecks don't revolve around making sure we know exactly how big each mountain is compared to each other. Take a step back and realize what you're implying.

-The anime team and the people who draw manga correlate perfectly.
- Every last detail of the manga is drawn to scale no matter the point of view, the distance of explosions.
-Kishi and the anime team are perfect artist.

and Sasuke used chidori combined with his amaterasu at vote 2 but your claim as a whole is absurd.

Yes ,the anime scale isn't far different from the manga 's scale ,and again if we didn't take with manga and anime drawings,then how would we know how big the meteor is ? With your opinion or mine or his or hers Lol

Sorry but manga and anime drawings is more reliable than my and your opinion

About enton ,it wont make his AOE bigger ,it would be it stronger by adding enton properties

 

[Dantee]

Yes ,the anime scale isn't far different from the manga 's scale ,and again if we didn't take with manga and anime drawings,then how would we know how big the meteor is ? With your opinion or mine or his or hers Lol

Sorry but manga and anime drawings is more reliable than my and your opinion

About enton ,it wont make his AOE bigger ,it would be it stronger by adding enton properties

Well I don't plan on getting in your debate it seems it dragged on long enough. I just want to say the hokage mountain is huge as well and that Madaras and Hashiramas statues might not be big as they seem compared to full size of that meteor. Imo those two statues get dwarfed by that meteor.

 

[wael reda]

Well I don't plan on getting in your debate it seems it dragged on long enough. I just want to say the hokage mountain is huge as well and that Madaras and Hashiramas statues might not be big as they seem compared to full size of that meteor. Imo those two statues get dwarfed by that meteor.

Sorry but manga and anime drawings show otherwise
Your urgent will to not take with manga and anime drawings shows that manga and anime drawing really show that vote 2 sasuke can destroy that part of the meteor even with KG's assumptions ,and that is enough for me
Thanks but I hope you agree with what manga shows

 

[Kaguya Rabbit Goddess]

Madara

 

[KidGamer65]

Lol,this is just gonna go forever especially after i saw your reply "you have now " Lol I'll try to make my point clearer as possible as I can ,and that would be my last post
Firstly ,let's call the jutsu that sasuke used to destroy the meteor a lightening jutsu

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This pic shows that your claim that it is regular sized chidori is completely worng ,no it was meteor sized lightening jutsu ,whether you like it or not,the lightening that contains the meteor is made of chakra ,it isn't fireworks

Except it doesn't. All that means is that Chidori got to a level where it could pull something like

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off. You have zero evidence that it was Nagashi, and I have evidence that it was Chidori........

So you are wrong, again.

So it is either a huge chidori or a wide range chidori nagashi ,if you don't think it is chidori nagashi ,then it is huge chidori ,but no way it is regular sized chidori

Based on what again? Oh wait, nothing, cause you still can't show me the outline of this ridiculously large Chidori Sasuke used. Even if you can't see Sasuke, you can see his silhouette, and I see nothing that implies his Chidori is ginormous.

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Even with your assumptions ,vote 2 out of chakra sasuke chidori should be able to destroy something bigger than one of the two statues ,I don't think that is far below the meteor size Lol (hint : the blast has extended that its upper borders was above the statues's head)

Even though it took the power of Enhanced Chidori and Enhanced Rasengan to destroy the statues? Lol. Stop.

I amont giving chidori feats for chidori nagashi ,chidori can destroy rocks much bigger than it ,while I am saying that chidori nagashi should be able to destroy a rock of its size

Which is literally based on nothing, cause Chidori Nagashi has encountered objects it's size. It's hit humans, the ground, and the best it could do was destroy a tiny branch. There are no feats to support anything you are saying.

Humans arent a standard for the jutsu impact on rocks ,against kakazu ,FRS made a huge crater in the ground while kakazu was still there ,the same applies on rasengan ,we havent see rasengan destroy a human into pieces like it does to rocks ,the same applies on chidori ,yes it pierces rocks but its destructive properties destroy the rocks too ,while we haven't seen a chidori destroy a human

Lol. Rasengan and FRS aren't Chidori, so that alone ends this post. Chidori has pierced into a human. It doesn't need to destroy a human to prove my point. It has to deal some kind of heavy damage, which it hasn't. Never has, never will.

Lol,the size is irrelevant ,as long ad the durability is the same and as long as the jutsu impact on the single point is the same

Size is very relevant. If Chidori Nagashi could destroy rocks, the ground, and damage humans the same size as it (with no special durability) then you'd have a point, but your point fails. It didn't do shit to the ground nor did it do shit to Naruto or Sai. Scale the ground up to a near Mountain Sized Meteor and scale chidori Nagashi up to the same size, and the same thing happens. Nothing.

Yes ,sasuke doesn't necessarily do that ,but I just wanted to show you that you can use bigger chakra without the jutsu getting bigger

Yeah, I know, but your point here doesn't hold since Sasuke isn't doing that.

Yes you think that sasuke by training will make his chakra surpass the rikudo boost ,and you think that his PS would in a level that can easily beat a PS of someone who literally has kaguya chakra(aside from the chakra that comes from the people inside the IT ,which is irrelevant here since it doesn't make her chakra stronger but bigger)

Lol.......That's Sasuke's chakra now. There's literally zero evidence that Sasuke's training can't make his chakra stronger than it was before. Base Naruto in The Last>>>Base Naruto in the War and Base Naruto vs. Sasuke, despite him having the Rikudo chakra. BSM Naruto in The Last>>>>BSM Naruto in the War.

Lol get me proof Madara has Kaguya's chakra. Absorbing the Juubi and the tree=/=Getting Kaguya's chakra. Can we stop with the assumptions? It's getting pretty ridiculous. Madara's chakra is INFERIOR to Kaguya's. Stated by the manga. That includes power and amount.

You didn't only assume that it is a regular sized chidori and it just got stronger

Already proved it. You claimed it was a larger Chidori, and you've failed to bring proof that it was. You've failed to show me Sasuke using an enhanced Chidori. Video shows Sasuke jump up, and no outline of any large ass Chidori is shown.

you didn't only assume that his PS would be empowered with the same scale

No reason to believe it wouldn't be empowered to a similar scale. That's how Ninjutsu and chakra training works.

but you also assummed that sassuke would keep training his chakra (like if there is no limits for that Lol) to be even much stronger than it was in the last to the level that his normal PS would surpass biju PS ,that is a clear wank here ,bro Lol

I have evidence, you have nothing but assumptions and complaints.

 

[KidGamer65]

KidGammer ,as I said ,even with your all assumptions ,you are still wrong ,I'll make it much clear now
Your assumptions:
1-sasuke destroyed this part of the meteor with regular sized chidori like the one he used in the end of vote2 ,he didn't add any bigger amount of chakra,he just trained his chakra to be stronger

Already proved it.

2-vote 2 sasuke's chidori AOE is half of the blast resulted from the chidori and rasengan clash

Half the blast? I only said it was half the power.

Here is how big the meteor is compared to a face of the hokage faces curved on that mountain

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Uh-huh.

Here is the blast resulted from the chidori and rasengan clash

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But the blast has extended that his upper borders were above the statues

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Uh-huh.

So ,we can deduce that ,the final blast was nearly like that

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Half of that is bigger than a single statue ,if we as summed that the single face of the hokage's faces on that mountain is as big as the single statue's face ,you would find that vote 2 sasuke's chidori AOE is enough to destroy that part of the meteor
Conclusion: vote sasuke's chidori can achieve the last sasuke's chidori's feats meaning sasuke's chakra didn't get any stronger
GG

Your point fails here. Lol. Taking half of the blast isn't going to give you the power Chidori or Rasengan would achieve on it's own. That blast has the power of Chidori and Rasengan, you have to strip Rasengan's power from said blast to see what Chidori can do...but since there is no physical way to measure that, you have no point and this whole comparison is flawed beyond belief.

Then there's the fact that Meteor>>Hashirama/Madara's Statue in overall size. Then there's also the fact that both attacks at VoTE were enhanced. Then there's also the fact that Sasuke VAPORIZED the Meteor, while large amounts of rubble from Hashirama and Madara's Statues were still left behind from the combined blast of Naruto and Sasuke's Rasengan. Even if they were the same size, which they aren't.

Nearly Vaporizing something takes way more energy than it does to merely blow it to pieces. Exactly why Bijuu Dama>>>>Kirin.

Not to mention the blast was only strong enough to destroy one statue, and only wrecked both because it's AoE let it hit both. Meaning Chidori wouldn't have destroyed said statue on it's own, nor would it destroy said meteor on it's own, obviously.

I suggest we learn how attacks work before replying.

 

[wael reda]

I wont reply to all that since it is the same words that you use from the beginning but I would just reply to new parts
Yes madara has all kaguya's chakra aside from the chakra that she took from the people inside the IT (which is irrelevant since it would make it bigger not stronger )
Here ,sasuke said that these chakra comes from the people inside the IT

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that means that the source of all chakra kaguya gained over madara was the people inside the IT

Lol,you have aproof that sasuke after the last kept training his chakra (like if there was no limits for that) to a level that his chakra became in a level that makes his PS destroy biju PS !!!? Get the wank out of here

Whatever I already proved you wrong ,even with your assumptions in another post above