Rikudou Sennin's Overlooked Power

[Moss]

But you still have to accept the fact, indirectly Naruto united the Shinobi world.

Indirectly, Hiruzen is the strongest shinobi because he was trained by Hashirama and Tobirama. It doesn't work like that.

It's A certainty not A prediction, you're A fan of the Naruto manga yet you fail to see the manga your reading...

What kind of idiot do you have to be to think that "Let me tell you what's about to happen" is not a prediction?

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Without a doubt Rikudou is the strongest Shinobi so far and the closest to a real god!

Having Rinnegan alone plus other abilities such as Fuuin jutsu and others make him virtually invincible:

He could use those powers to unfathomable levels, he did create the Moon on his deathbed.

 

[FreakensteinAG]

Indirectly, Hiruzen is the strongest shinobi because he was trained by the strongest. It doesn't work like that.

Because this interpretation doesn't go that way. Your argument is stemming from the past, while ours points forward and continues. The argument that sinks the interpretation is: while Hiruzen was called the strongest before, he was no longer later. While Naruto will gain peace in the future, it could be that later on there will be more war. This is where the arguments line up, but the premises are vastly different.

 

[Cosman]

If talking is prominent enough to be a jutsu, why in the actual f*ck don't the ninjas have a therapy system? They'd really cut down on all their crazies (Uchihas) if they just implemented some group sessions.

 

[Moss]

Because this interpretation doesn't go that way. Your argument is stemming from the past, while ours points forward and continues. The argument that sinks the interpretation is: while Hiruzen was called the strongest before, he was no longer later. While Naruto will gain peace in the future, it could be that later on there will be more war. This is where the arguments line up, but the premises are vastly different.

Exactly. Everything in the future hasn't happened yet, so it's conjecture. While the past has been confirmed to be true, and is the most logical place to start an argument or theory from.

 

[Transcendence]

Indirectly, Hiruzen is the strongest shinobi because he was trained by Hashirama and Tobirama. It doesn't work like that.



What kind of idiot do you have to be to think that "Let me tell you what's about to happen" is not a prediction?

That's flawed logic and you have to be dense to look at it that way.

Hiruzen was trained by the Strongest Shinobi. It is never implied he would surpass the strongest Shinobi, where it is clearly displayed no one has ever matched Hashirama in power. All that means is that Hiruzen had the most powerful Shinobi as teacher.

The Gaara argument is logical because were it not for Naruto, Gaara wouldn't of been Kazekage, and therefore never have been put into the position of uniting the Shinobi world.

Indirectly Naruto was involved. The Hiruzen comparison doesn't fit that criteria.

 

[AngelicYami]

What kind of idiot do you have to be to think that "Let me tell you what's about to happen" is not a prediction?

Because it's A certainty, and for when it happens cause it will please come to me and show me how broken you are after, you fail to see the issues wrong with this manga, the talk no jutsu is overused furthermore who recently got tnj'd? Oh yeah Uchiha Sasuke, your heart must be so broken xD and ever so mature "idiot" wow smh lol.

 

[Transcendence]

If he becomes the Juubi's Jin he will acquire it Lol

I still believe that the chakra of the Bijuu that he gained will culminated inside of him and manifest with Kurama (Once he gains the second half) and then it will manifest.

 

[Moss]

That's flawed logic and you have to be dense to look at it that way.

Hiruzen was trained by the Strongest Shinobi. It is never implied he would surpass the strongest Shinobi, where it is clearly displayed no one has ever matched Hashirama in power. All that means is that Hiruzen had the most powerful Shinobi as teacher.

The Gaara argument is logical because were it not for Naruto, Gaara wouldn't of been Kazekage, and therefore never have been put into the position of uniting the Shinobi world.

Indirectly Naruto was involved. The Hiruzen comparison doesn't fit that criteria.

It was an example, which apparently, you don't understand. I never said that I believed in that.

Because it's A certainty, and for when it happens cause it will please come to me and show me how broken you are after, you fail to see the issues wrong with this manga, the talk no jutsu is overused furthermore who recently got tnj'd? Oh yeah Uchiha Sasuke, your heart must be so broken xD and ever so mature "idiot" wow smh lol.

It is not a certainty, as it hasn't happened yet. It is merely conjecture.

 

[FreakensteinAG]

Exactly. Everything in the future hasn't happened yet, so it's conjecture. While the past has been confirmed to be true, and is the most logical place to start an argument or theory from.

But what has been confirmed already has been confirmed. We are talking about the support from the entire shinobi alliance that has already been revealed.

 

[AngelicYami]

It is not a certainty, as it hasn't happened yet. It is merely conjecture.

Fine either way I'm still going to enjoy seeing how broken you become for when it happens, your words are folly & in the end of it all, ill enjoy seeing you broken...you'll see.

 

[Transcendence]

It was an example, which apparently, you don't understand. I never said that I believed in that.



It is not a certainty, as it hasn't happened yet. It is merely conjecture.

I clearly understood it was an example. I pointed out the flaws of the example. The example had nothing that could correlate it to the same situation that we were comparing. The indirectness of Naruto's actions towards Gaara does put Naruto in a partial position of gaining praise for uniting the Shinobi world. However miniscule it may be (It would of never happened if he didn't, may I remind you) Naruto was involved through TNJ means, in uniting the Shinobi world.

 

[Moss]

Fine either way I'm still going to enjoy seeing how broken you become for when it happens, your words are folly & in the end of it all, ill enjoy seeing you broken...you'll see.

I don't actually care.

I clearly understood it was an example. I pointed out the flaws of the example. The example had nothing that could correlate it to the same situation that we were comparing. The indirectness of Naruto's actions towards Gaara does put Naruto in a partial position of gaining praise for uniting the Shinobi world. However miniscule it may be (It would of never happened if he didn't, may I remind you) Naruto was involved through TNJ means, in uniting the Shinobi world.

As much as Iruka is, for turning Naruto good.

 

[Strawberry]

well go figure naruto is thought to be next sage and he is the best Tnj user to date so this shows the link between the to sages well done if I must say so myself

 

[-Raviel-]

Indirectly, Hiruzen is the strongest shinobi because he was trained by Hashirama and Tobirama. It doesn't work like that.

That's a terrible analogy.Nonetheless,Naruto did in fact change the shinobi world even though it was done indirectly through Gaara(someone who would never have even become kazekage in the first place in it weren't for Naruto's Tnj).

 

[AngelicYami]

I don't actually care..

Empty words.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

This guy is seriously arguing that Naruto's TnJ didn't unite everybody?

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[Transcendence]

I don't actually care.


As much as Iruka is, for turning Naruto good.

Now we are getting extremely technical, but that is somewhat true. But Naruto was never "bad". Naruto never had malicious intent. It was Iruka who first acknowledged him as a ninja, and not a monster like the rest of the village.

 

[Moss]

This guy is seriously arguing that Naruto's TnJ didn't unite everybody?

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This guy seriously thinks all his theories are factual?

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Now we are getting extremely technical, but that is somewhat true. But Naruto was never "bad". Naruto never had malicious intent. It was Iruka who first acknowledged him as a ninja, and not a monster like the rest of the village.

Who said you had to be "bad" to be turned good? He was neutral, but he was a mischief and stole the Hokage's scroll, so he was more "bad" then "good" at the time.

 

[Cosman]

This guy seriously thinks all his theories are factual?

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I don't know where, but I'm pretty sure there is a rule somewhere about using the same gif/picture that was used on you. You just can't do that...