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Has it occurred to anyone that Rikudou Sennin and the Uzumakis share something similar: Very Powerful Sealing Techniques
What is the ultimate sealing technique we've seen so far? not the Reaper Death Seal that's for certain:
So which is it? the answer lies in the Moon:
The moon was created from the ultimate sealing technique: Chibaku Tensei from Rikudou's Rinnegan
The Moon was a result of a sealing jutsu performed by the Sage to imprison the Juubi, The method of becoming a Jinchuuriki originated from the Sage, his sealing powers were top-tier much like the Uzumakis:
It's possible that Rikudou Sennin was an Uzumaki, the Uzumaki's being the original bloodline that split into the Senju and Uchiha after the Elder and Younger son fought, but a question arises: why the Uzumakis were claimed to be distant relatives of only the Senjus and not of the Uchihas? the answer is ancestral alliance
Since the Senju Ancestor and the Uzumakis share their common beliefs of goodness and peace, they remained as allies throughout the centuries, while the Uzumaki's other branch relative: The Uchihas believed in the antithesis of love and peace which is war and hatred, they were still related by blood, but not by beliefs: hence they claim only the Senjus as their common relatives and not the Uchihas. Since warring clans already existed prior to the founding of Shinobi villages, it's possible that the Sage also belonged to a clan, a clan that specializes in sealing jutsus: The Uzumaki Clan.
I understand that the Sage created Ninjutsu, or to be specific, he discovered the very nature of chakra and founded the modern art of Ninjutsu, but let us pause and analyze for a moment, Jiraiya stated that the time of the Sage was an era of constant strife, whether the warring factions had access to Ninjutsu or not is a moot point, however, what is clear is that the Sage must have belong to some family, because it's only natural that despite his demigod powers, he was still mortal, and must have had parents or more specifically a clan, since Jiraiya have stated the turbulent warring era of the Sage then it only means that there are factions that were at odds during the Sage's time, for war is brought forth from the difference of factions, and what factions have been the predominant warring groups that where shown in the Manga? Clans. The Sage therefore must have belonged to a clan before he had his two sons: The Senju and Uchiha Ancestors.
Now, the Rinnegan was an inherent power of the Sage since it belonged to his eye, it is possible that when he founded the art of ninjutsu, and if we assume that no one then knew how to wield chakra, gave the art of sealing techniques to his parental clan: The Uzumakis (who, for the sake of argument, we assume did not wield ninjutsu) so the Sage having a parental family, the Uzumakis, married and had two sons, The Uchiha and the Senju ancestors, they inherited their father's vast powers, but, at the same time, the Sage left a legacy for his own parental clan, The Uzumakis, the Sealing Jutsus he used.
UPDATE 1
I understand that Zetsu mentioned in a previous chapter that Nagato was of Senju Lineage, which, at face value, makes it appear that the Uzumakis were a branch root of the main branch: The Senjus
However this is a false misconception, if we take the translation of lineage based on the context of Zetsu's statement in conjunction with Kushina's statement in a later chapter, the most accurate meaning of lineage, based on context, is the anthropological definition of the word: Kinship
kin·ship - Connection by blood, marriage, or adoption; family relationship.
Since Kushina did not specify that the Uzumakis were a derivative branch family of the Senjus, then it is logical to conclude, that in conjunction with Zetsu's statement, the true intended meaning of the word "lineage" based on the context of his statement was : Kinship, of being related by blood, not the Uzumakis being a derived branch from the Senjus.
UPDATE 2
Of The Necessity of Madara giving Nagato the Rinnegan: Uzumaki Heritage
The awakening of the Rinnegan has one sole primary stimulant: The combination of both Senju and Uchiha DNA, wouldn't it logically follow then that the unlocking of its' full powers also requires both Senju and Uchiha DNA from a common but not necessarily direct descent? and if Nagato who awakened its' full power like Rinne Tensei only had Senju DNA through his Uzumaki Heritage, then wouldn't the stimulant of the mechanism of awakening be lacking? unless, Nagato also possessed both Uchiha DNA through his Uzumaki heritage. Though not from direct patrilineal descent from the Sage, but by virtue of common ancestry from the Sage: The Uzumakis, direct descent from the Sage is needed to awaken the Rinnegan, while common descent from the Sage through the Sage's parental Uzumaki ancestry is probably sufficient to wield it and unlock its' potentials.
The same mechanism is reflected in the awakening of the Sharingan: one sole primary stimulant: psychological trauma, before, many assumed (based on Itachi's words to Sasuke) that the Mangekyo is awakened only from the killing of one's best friend, but, as the recent chapters had stated, The MS could be awakened from the same stimulant that awakens the ordinary Sharingan, albeit of a higher degree: Psychological Trauma, since the stimulant of awakening the power of the Sharingan is caused by one sole primary stimulant, does it not also reflect the high possibility that the further awakening of the Rinnegan's powers also have the same stimulant Uchiha and Senju DNA that is probably both present within the Uzumaki blood of Nagato's by virtue of him being an Uzumaki and not stemming from the Sage's direct descent? (Since direct descent is the only way to awaken it) Which, in conclusion, further adds weight to the credence of the theory that The Sage of the Six Paths was an Uzumaki.
What is the ultimate sealing technique we've seen so far? not the Reaper Death Seal that's for certain:
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So which is it? the answer lies in the Moon:
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The moon was created from the ultimate sealing technique: Chibaku Tensei from Rikudou's Rinnegan
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The Moon was a result of a sealing jutsu performed by the Sage to imprison the Juubi, The method of becoming a Jinchuuriki originated from the Sage, his sealing powers were top-tier much like the Uzumakis:
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It's possible that Rikudou Sennin was an Uzumaki, the Uzumaki's being the original bloodline that split into the Senju and Uchiha after the Elder and Younger son fought, but a question arises: why the Uzumakis were claimed to be distant relatives of only the Senjus and not of the Uchihas? the answer is ancestral alliance
Since the Senju Ancestor and the Uzumakis share their common beliefs of goodness and peace, they remained as allies throughout the centuries, while the Uzumaki's other branch relative: The Uchihas believed in the antithesis of love and peace which is war and hatred, they were still related by blood, but not by beliefs: hence they claim only the Senjus as their common relatives and not the Uchihas. Since warring clans already existed prior to the founding of Shinobi villages, it's possible that the Sage also belonged to a clan, a clan that specializes in sealing jutsus: The Uzumaki Clan.
I understand that the Sage created Ninjutsu, or to be specific, he discovered the very nature of chakra and founded the modern art of Ninjutsu, but let us pause and analyze for a moment, Jiraiya stated that the time of the Sage was an era of constant strife, whether the warring factions had access to Ninjutsu or not is a moot point, however, what is clear is that the Sage must have belong to some family, because it's only natural that despite his demigod powers, he was still mortal, and must have had parents or more specifically a clan, since Jiraiya have stated the turbulent warring era of the Sage then it only means that there are factions that were at odds during the Sage's time, for war is brought forth from the difference of factions, and what factions have been the predominant warring groups that where shown in the Manga? Clans. The Sage therefore must have belonged to a clan before he had his two sons: The Senju and Uchiha Ancestors.
Now, the Rinnegan was an inherent power of the Sage since it belonged to his eye, it is possible that when he founded the art of ninjutsu, and if we assume that no one then knew how to wield chakra, gave the art of sealing techniques to his parental clan: The Uzumakis (who, for the sake of argument, we assume did not wield ninjutsu) so the Sage having a parental family, the Uzumakis, married and had two sons, The Uchiha and the Senju ancestors, they inherited their father's vast powers, but, at the same time, the Sage left a legacy for his own parental clan, The Uzumakis, the Sealing Jutsus he used.
UPDATE 1
I understand that Zetsu mentioned in a previous chapter that Nagato was of Senju Lineage, which, at face value, makes it appear that the Uzumakis were a branch root of the main branch: The Senjus
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However this is a false misconception, if we take the translation of lineage based on the context of Zetsu's statement in conjunction with Kushina's statement in a later chapter, the most accurate meaning of lineage, based on context, is the anthropological definition of the word: Kinship
kin·ship - Connection by blood, marriage, or adoption; family relationship.
Since Kushina did not specify that the Uzumakis were a derivative branch family of the Senjus, then it is logical to conclude, that in conjunction with Zetsu's statement, the true intended meaning of the word "lineage" based on the context of his statement was : Kinship, of being related by blood, not the Uzumakis being a derived branch from the Senjus.
UPDATE 2
Of The Necessity of Madara giving Nagato the Rinnegan: Uzumaki Heritage
The awakening of the Rinnegan has one sole primary stimulant: The combination of both Senju and Uchiha DNA, wouldn't it logically follow then that the unlocking of its' full powers also requires both Senju and Uchiha DNA from a common but not necessarily direct descent? and if Nagato who awakened its' full power like Rinne Tensei only had Senju DNA through his Uzumaki Heritage, then wouldn't the stimulant of the mechanism of awakening be lacking? unless, Nagato also possessed both Uchiha DNA through his Uzumaki heritage. Though not from direct patrilineal descent from the Sage, but by virtue of common ancestry from the Sage: The Uzumakis, direct descent from the Sage is needed to awaken the Rinnegan, while common descent from the Sage through the Sage's parental Uzumaki ancestry is probably sufficient to wield it and unlock its' potentials.
The same mechanism is reflected in the awakening of the Sharingan: one sole primary stimulant: psychological trauma, before, many assumed (based on Itachi's words to Sasuke) that the Mangekyo is awakened only from the killing of one's best friend, but, as the recent chapters had stated, The MS could be awakened from the same stimulant that awakens the ordinary Sharingan, albeit of a higher degree: Psychological Trauma, since the stimulant of awakening the power of the Sharingan is caused by one sole primary stimulant, does it not also reflect the high possibility that the further awakening of the Rinnegan's powers also have the same stimulant Uchiha and Senju DNA that is probably both present within the Uzumaki blood of Nagato's by virtue of him being an Uzumaki and not stemming from the Sage's direct descent? (Since direct descent is the only way to awaken it) Which, in conclusion, further adds weight to the credence of the theory that The Sage of the Six Paths was an Uzumaki.
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