Rikudou Naruto VS Rinnegan Sasuke

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Naruto has been shown unable to react to Perfect Susano'o using Amenotejikara.
that was BPS, something thats on an entirely different level to PS alone,
so naruto reacts just fine
Hinata's sister's eyes are strong enough to one shot naruto with genjutsu

Current sasky's finger genjutsu is probably overkill
Itachis finger genjutsu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sasukes full power rinnegan genjutsu,
please refrain from trolling
 

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Yeah,i was planning on doing that,they will probably resort to over hyping how Sasuke used the Bijuus chakra for a few pages,while Naruto,"Just had the Yin Kyuubi." Then i'll have to point out how he had the other Bijuus chakra aswell,and actually had the Yin Kyuubi constantly helping him in battle,plus had that massive boost of NE to match Indra's arrow.

Their selective reading is strong.I tend to just make some good post addressing their post,then saving it in message so i can easily use it in the future,like the comment to Lesula above.

By the way,did you notice that Naruto panel before i pointed it out?

I read it but I never really focused on it too much. I have only read the last 2 chapters once and I haven't had much time to post on Narutobase since the last chapter. University is tough. I have one more exam for this semester to prepare for.
 
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I read it but I never really focused on it too much. I have only read the last 2 chapters once and I haven't had much time to post on Narutobase since the last chapter. University is tough. I have one more exam for this semester to prepare for.

Good luck with everything.

Naruto means their ideologies. Lol



It wasn't a draw and NaruSasu weren't equals in that battle

To be a draw/equals Naruto should:

Have killing intent

Used his strongest jutsu

Used his jutsu as attack instead of defense/to be on par with Sasuke... Literally speaking if you put "insert any fictional character which obvious stronger than Sasuke " in Naruto's conditions it still will be a "draw"

Sasuke admitted that he lost because he knew that Naruto could beat his ass again ... in other words he admitted that Naruto was stronger.

Naruto had the Kyuubi's help.If he just had his chakra then fine,but instead he has the guy himself inside him constantly helping.

The battle was a draw.I've already explained what Sasuke and Naruto meant.Sasuke handed Naruto the win as a friendly gesture to acknowledge Naruto's determination to continue to fight even though he was in the condition they were in,and Naruto then rejected having won the battle.To him not wasn't about that,clearly.
 
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Bad reasoning,you fail to mention many things.

What in that post is suppose to help Sasuke? None of the basic elements or Paths would change anything against Naruto. Especially the latter since Sasuke didn't even bother with High level Rinnegan techs against Naruto.

Your also incorrect on Sasuke being able to absorb Chakra and use Jutsu at the same time. Though I can imagine that the misconception came from a faulty translation Sasuke actually says that he can't do both because of how they work, not because of any lack of ability. Madara mentions this against the Gokage as well.




The battle is a little but more complicated than my orginal post implies, but I'm on a phone and trying to keep it simple.​
 

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Since full Rinnegan mastery Sasuke is fanfic that Sasuke fans made up to somehow justify the fact that Sasuke needed another power up to tie with Naruto and try to put him close to Naruto's level. VOTE 2 Naruto can take this, seeing how Sasuke has nothing to breach Naruto's avatar and all his Rinnegan techs are useless to the avatar with NE.

Considering current Naruto is canonically twice as strong as his VOTE 2 self, he is too much to be taken out by any fanfic Sasuke.

Naruto low mid diff at the very worst.
 
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To save the Sasuke debaters finger cramps, everyone should just read up on this debate:

The overall conclusion of that topic was that Sasuke wrecks.

OT: Sasuke takes this mid diff at most. To the people who say plot shielding is not real, you are an idiot.
 

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To save the Sasuke debaters finger cramps, everyone should just read up on this debate:

The overall conclusion of that topic was that Sasuke wrecks.

OT: Sasuke takes this mid diff at most. To the people who say plot shielding is not real, you are an idiot.

Horrible example. Me and KidGamer already proved the only good debater in the original thread wrong (Flawless) and he admitted to it. So that thread holds no merit. Your only argument is plot which is pathetic.
 

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Sasuke with a sword and 1 arm bisects naruto with ease.
 

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Naruto had the Kyuubi's help.If he just had his chakra then fine,but instead he has the guy himself inside him constantly helping.
What about Sasuke's advantages? Lol

What about Itachi's eyes without which current Sasuke would be blind?

What about Sage Rinnegan which granted him "solo glance", ability to steal chakra and many others abilities?


The battle was a draw.I've already explained what Sasuke and Naruto meant.
.I've already explained why it wasn't draw and what Sasuke and Naruto meant.


Sasuke handed Naruto the win as a friendly gesture to acknowledge Naruto's determination to continue to fight even though he was in the condition they were in,and Naruto then rejected having won the battle.To him not wasn't about that,clearly.

1. Sasuke like Vegeta admits his defeat only when main character beat his physically

2. Naruto rejected his ideological win
 

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we need more threads like this its been a while

sick of the pairing bs
 

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Not replying to this post. Just in general.

The point is that the Rinnegan will increase the strength of Susano'o, just like his S/T allowed Sasuke to blitz and drop Naruto, who was previously on par. Or even Chidori.

With Outer Path, Sasuke could do the same as Madara.

His S/T only let him blitz Naruto because his Susanoo got faster and stronger. Rinnegan doesn't boost Susanoo's power. Never has, never will.
 

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Horrible example. Me and KidGamer already proved the only good debater in the original thread wrong (Flawless) and he admitted to it. So that thread holds no merit. Your only argument is plot which is pathetic.

You give yourself so much credit but really just a poser... You've yet to give a way for Naruto to win that I can't counter.

More chakra = Petra
Clones = ST
Stronger ninjutsu = Petra
Taijutsu = rinnengan,sharingan, human, Petra
 

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His S/T only let him blitz Naruto because his Susanoo got faster and stronger. Rinnegan doesn't boost Susanoo's power. Never has, never will.

How can using S/T makes Susanoo faster?? Susanoo maybe stronger because it was another level, but not faster. Naruto could've been slower because he was using clones but that's it.
 

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How can using S/T makes Susanoo faster??

1. S/T is teleportation. Teleportation attacks>>>>Normal attacks in speed.

2. I never said that S/T made his Susanoo faster. The Bijuu chakra made it faster, S/T let him teleport.


Susanoo maybe stronger because it was another level, but not faster. Naruto could've been slower because he was using clones but that's it.

Uh, no. Better chakra for Susanoo=An all around boost for it. It couldn't blitz Naruto before, but when he used S/T with his Bijuu Susanoo, he blitzed him. Thus Susanoo got faster.
 

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Im so mad im late to the party, would have loved to get in on this.

But anyway, Naruto wins with Low - Med Difficulty.

Rikudou Naruto is at least a tier about Rinnegan Sasuke.

- Thousands of Kage level Base Clones
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- Truth Seeking Balls that Negate all sasuke's Ninjutsu and Taijutsu


All these feats are enough by themselves to overwhelm a simple Rinnegan Sasuke w/ perfect susanoo
 
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1. S/T is teleportation. Teleportation attacks>>>>Normal attacks in speed.

2. I never said that S/T made his Susanoo faster. The Bijuu chakra made it faster, S/T let him teleport.




Uh, no. Better chakra for Susanoo=An all around boost for it. It couldn't blitz Naruto before, but when he used S/T with his Bijuu Susanoo, he blitzed him. Thus Susanoo got faster.

Sasuke didn't attempt to use S/T and susanno before, so you are just assuming.
 

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Im so mad im late to the party, would have loved to get in on this.

But anyway, Naruto wins with Low - Med Difficulty.

Rikudou Naruto is at least a tier about Rinnegan Sasuke.

- Thousands of Kage level Base Clones
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- Truth Seeking Balls that Negate all sasuke's Ninjutsu and Taijutsu


All these feats are enough by themselves to overwhelm a simple Rinnegan Sasuke w/ perfect susanoo

ST and preta counters all of that.
 

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ST and preta counters all of that.

S/T is nothing compared to naruto's speed and reflexes.
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Preta path once again isnt a factor, . And since his once he does it once naruto will have more than enough time to charge him afterwards.
 

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What about Sasuke's advantages? Lol

What about Itachi's eyes without which current Sasuke would be blind?

What about Sage Rinnegan which granted him "solo glance", ability to steal chakra and many others abilities?


.I've already explained why it wasn't draw and what Sasuke and Naruto meant.




1. Sasuke like Vegeta admits his defeat only when main character beat his physically

2. Naruto rejected his ideological win

Here we go again.I think you're genuinely stupid and biased.You mention Sasuke has half of the Sage's power,so does Naruto,which you don't mention.You say Sasuke has Itachi's eyes,in response to me talking about how Naruto not only has the Kyuubi's chakra but the actual Kyuubi inside him continously helping him in battle.

Who is loading up chakra and giving it to Sasuke as he fights? Who is talking to him? Going over battle plans? Are Itachi's eyes doing that? Eyes are not the same as having an actual living being constantly helping.

Naruto doesn't just have the chakra.The battle was a draw.They both couldn't move,clearly the physical battle was a draw.Sasuke saying he lost was a friendly gesture to acknowledge Naruto,which Naruto rejected because he didn't consider Sasuke nor himself as a winner or loser - which is correct considering it was a draw.

Naruto himself rejects the win yet you constantly try to give it to him.Stop selectively reading and being biased.
 
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What in that post is suppose to help Sasuke? None of the basic elements or Paths would change anything against Naruto. Especially the latter since Sasuke didn't even bother with High level Rinnegan techs against Naruto.

Your also incorrect on Sasuke being able to absorb Chakra and use Jutsu at the same time. Though I can imagine that the misconception came from a faulty translation Sasuke actually says that he can't do both because of how they work, not because of any lack of ability. Madara mentions this against the Gokage as well.




The battle is a little but more complicated than my orginal post implies, but I'm on a phone and trying to keep it simple.​

My response was more so as a reply to you mentioning the Bijuus chakra.
Sasuke has the potential to master nearly all jutsu,and with having mastery of all elements,he will have limitless combinations.

Sasuke used a Fire Style attack to distract Naruto,then teleported behind him,then used Chidori which knocked him back.3 different style jutsu's were already shown being effective against Naruto.So to say no other elememts or act like no other Jutsu could work against Naruto is simply false,and shows you lack imagination.Naruto is not invincible.

Sasuke can also absorb all of Naruto's chakra based attacks,thus powering him up.
 
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