[Theory] Revival of A God! where is the logic?! ...and Return of Madara!

[Cael]

what do you mean by black zetsu's eyes?! I questioned Kishi's logic of making a return of Kaguya!

what's so difficult to understand ?

we learned that kaguya was part of the 10 tails.
the 10 tails was sealed in the moon
madara summoned the 10 tails/ which is also part kagyua.
madara put everyone into IT so that he can steal there chakra [that's why that one panel showed he was touching the ground]
we later learn that black zetsu is the actual will of kaguya. basically they both are the same
and so black zetsu took control over the already two rinnegan,juubi jin,third eye madara. and then he took the chakra from all the ninja's caught in the IT, and since he was the will of kaguya he manage to brought her back the way she was in the past.

 

[Mr Hiru]

We all saw How did Madara get the Rinnegan and powers of hogoromo. There was a logic in it i.e. When you combine the powers of senju and uchiha you get powers of hogoromo...it means you get closer to him...but the return of Kaguya leaves a lot of questions. She should not be alive...to revive her the basic needs are powers of Hogoromo and his brother i.e. powers of (uchiha, senju), and hyuga!
But Madara never received or took any powers of hyuga...so Kaguya shouldn't have been revived in the first place.

but since she is real now...Madara's return is almost confirmed now, because Naruto and Sasuke can't defeat Kaguya without all the hokage's and Madara...the only thing that can stop this from happening is Kishi introducing us with Haromo!

She wasn't precisely revived. She was sealed inside the Juubi. She only needed a medium for being unsealed, and this medium is called Madara.

This said, I believe there is another way apart of Hamura's introduction to defeat her, using the current resources... Obito, and the Mazou's Arm which is still in the Kamui dimension.

 

[minamoto]

Yeah, but that would have to mean either they evolved back into byaukgan or the fruit/tree is related to byaukgan powers. Somehow it was derived when it was not there previously

Madara wil come back as a finall villain....the process of kaguya's appearance is necessary for his ultimate plan...his target is the holly apple wich will appear only if kaguya is revived....Madara will come back in his form tobi...Madara was the reall masked man...the 2 madara's created by izanagi werent dead...one of them sealed himself within obito and become tobidara...the other died and its rikudo madara...tobidara is the finall villain

 

[Mr Hiru]

Madara wil come back as a finall villain....the process of kaguya's appearance is necessary for his ultimate plan...his target is the holly apple wich will appear only if kaguya is revived....Madara will come back in his form tobi...Madara was the reall masked man...the 2 madara's created by izanagi werent dead...one of them sealed himself within obito and become tobidara...the other died and its rikudo madara...tobidara is the finall villain

Keep your theories in your own threads, will you?

:|

 

[MAN OF SIN]

She wasn't precisely revived. She was sealed inside the Juubi. She only needed a medium for being unsealed, and this medium is called Madara.

This said, I believe there is another way apart of Hamura's introduction to defeat her, using the current resources... Obito, and the Mazou's Arm which is still in the Kamui dimension.

She wasn't sealed in the Juubi. She is the Juubi.

 

[Hidari]

Madara wil come back as a finall villain....the process of kaguya's appearance is necessary for his ultimate plan...his target is the holly apple wich will appear only if kaguya is revived....Madara will come back in his form tobi...Madara was the reall masked man...the 2 madara's created by izanagi werent dead...one of them sealed himself within obito and become tobidara...the other died and its rikudo madara...tobidara is the finall villain

I just realised. This summarises all of your threads. Why did you even bother wasting your time trying to write the other threads? This is far more convincing as what you're trying to say actually makes sense.​

 

[Angelic.]

I just realised. This summarises all of your threads. Why did you even bother wasting your time trying to write the other threads? This is far more convincing as what you're trying to say actually makes sense.​

he doesnt make any sense ever. he admitted he makes it up and he hates obito. hes a troll

 

[Mr Hiru]

She wasn't sealed in the Juubi. She is the Juubi.

That's just a prettier way to see it.

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She is part of the Juubi. You can either see it as her "being the Juubi" as it is or "she being sealed inside the Juubi". What matters is that something had to happen so she could broke free from the beast, and that happened when Madara casted IT.

 

[dizzynaruto]

She wasn't sealed in the Juubi. She is the Juubi.

Not confirmed she's the Juubi yet. We know she is/was a part of it. No proof she IS "it".

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

I'm not smoking anything...I just mean to say...whenever a hero or villain dies..kishi gives them proper farewell....but Madara didn't recieve any...that's just not Kishi's way of doing things...thats why I believe Madara will return!

Agreed. Even more so, Kishi has a habit of giving villains some kind of redemption. Zabuza killed Gato, Nagato used Rinne tensei, Obito is now helping Naruto....Shit even Oro saved the day by summoning the hokages and saving the 5 kage. We definitely will get more Madara ive known this since he was betrayed.

It seems his other half will be used to bring him back, and since he was chasing a lie this whole time hes probably going to want revenge on Kaguya. He will return and help Naruto somehow.

 

[dizzynaruto]

Agreed. Even more so, Kishi has a habit of giving villains some kind of redemption. Zabuza killed Gato, Nagato used Rinne tensei, Obito is now helping Naruto....Shit even Oro saved the day by summoning the hokages and saving the 5 kage. We definitely will get more Madara ive known this since he was betrayed.

It seems his other half will be used to bring him back, and since he was chasing a lie this whole time hes probably going to want revenge on Kaguya. He will return and help Naruto somehow.

I don't know if he will be that willing to go along with them. Although he was chasing Black Zetsu's lie, he was pretty confident that what he was doing was right. And I feel like it would be a disservice to the character, to just have him happily go along and help. Although I still think he will help defeat Kaguya, it won't be a Kumbaya with Nardo, Madara&friends.

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

I don't know if he will be that willing to go along with them. Although he was chasing Black Zetsu's lie, he was pretty confident that what he was doing was right. And I feel like it would be a disservice to the character, to just have him happily go along and help. Although I still think he will help defeat Kaguya, it won't be a Kumbaya with Nardo, Madara&friends.

Well I doubt hes going to be bff with them but Madara has to know what he was doing was wrong. I highly doubt he will return as a villain like many fans are hoping for.

 

[dizzynaruto]

Well I doubt hes going to be bff with them but Madara has to know what he was doing was wrong. I highly doubt he will return as a villain like many fans are hoping for.

I agree, probably more of an Anti-Hero if anything at all.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

That's just a prettier way to see it.

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She is part of the Juubi. You can either see it as her "being the Juubi" as it is or "she being sealed inside the Juubi". What matters is that something had to happen so she could broke free from the beast, and that happened when Madara casted IT.

Not confirmed she's the Juubi yet. We know she is/was a part of it. No proof she IS "it".

Viz translation says that the Juubi is Kaguya herself.

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[dizzynaruto]

Viz translation says that the Juubi is Kaguya herself.

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Ahh, well if we are taking Viz translation into consideration..... there's all the translation mishaps of part 1 that cause a BOATLOAD of plotholes/inconsistencies.

Although even in that translation, it says "It is Mother herself, 'AS WELL'." Meaning, PART mother, PART tree. At least I think so.

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

Ahh, well if we are taking Viz translation into consideration..... there's all the translation mishaps of part 1 that cause a BOATLOAD of plotholes/inconsistencies.

Although even in that translation, it says "It is Mother herself, 'AS WELL'." Meaning, PART mother, PART tree. At least I think so.

That is the impression I got. The juubi is the Holy Tree + Kaguya

 

[Mr Hiru]

Although even in that translation, it says "It is Mother herself, 'AS WELL'." Meaning, PART mother, PART tree. At least I think so.

I second this interpretation. "As well" changes a lot the meaning in that context.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Ahh, well if we are taking Viz translation into consideration..... there's all the translation mishaps of part 1 that cause a BOATLOAD of plotholes/inconsistencies.

Although even in that translation, it says "It is Mother herself, 'AS WELL'." Meaning, PART mother, PART tree. At least I think so.

I second this interpretation. "As well" changes a lot the meaning in that context.

Well yeah, but the tree is just a tree with, no will of its own. Here what it looks like before Kaguys ate the fruit.

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[Mr Hiru]

Well yeah, but the tree is just a tree with, no will of its own. Here what it looks like before Kaguys ate the fruit.

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I have to disagree with the Juubi being the same entity as Kaguya. I'm more inclined to think that Kaguya was sealed inside, since she had to call Madara before being 'revived'.

Also, Kurama said that the Juubi didn't have emotions. Kaguya clearly does. Ergo, Kaguya can't be the Juubi per se.