[Discussion] Review of Sasuke Uchiha! Stronger than Madara at age of 16?

[HungryMaelstrom]

actually the main reason Sasuke is so strong is because people keep giving him shit... I mean he appeared skilled in pt1 but omg since lions barrage I haven't seen nothing truly original from this ****ing character.

I don't like sasuke for that reason in particular... his motives and some aspects of personality can slide although I might disagree but he just obtains help and abilities from everybody and always have some dumb as "my version is better than yours" remark...lol like wtf.

Btw
Diedara is an Idiot > -_- he definately had the upper hand in that battle wtf...
Danzo is an Idiot > Obvious misuse of the precious tools at his disposal
Itachi is an Idiot ....around sasuke
although he was crippled by allot I give sasuke oro

And as far as I was reading and watching, sasuke literally had a train ran on him by the 4 Kages, --> thank god for ametarasu or that train wouldn't have even been relevant.

TBH sasuske is just a gifted Uchiha ..and by gifted I mean gets allot of gifts from people.

I like taka because the individuals have unique jutsu which i crave in the series but the five Kage summit proves they aren't of much use. Being that the ****ing Naruto universe is lopsided by the sharingan & rinnegan being so hax...

just my Opinion btw

 

[thegame]

actually the main reason Sasuke is so strong is because people keep giving him shit... I mean he appeared skilled in pt1 but omg since lions barrage I haven't seen nothing truly original from this ****ing character.

This comment just made me mad/sad so I needed to comment it... Showed nothing? He developed affinity for 2 chakra natures at the age of 13. His control over the element with lightning is amazing, and he even developed a technique as destructive as kirin.
His brilliance in planning ahead in combat is crazy. Just take his fight vs Deidara, Danzo, or Itachi for that matter. All proves it.
Truly original? Stop this bull shit...

I don't like sasuke for that reason in particular... his motives and some aspects of personality can slide although I might disagree but he just obtains help and abilities from everybody and always have some dumb as "my version is better than yours" remark...lol like wtf.

Obtains help and abilities? He developed it all by himself. Blaze release for instance, is a product of using his MS abilities in a certain manner, which even Itachi did not accomplish.

Btw
Diedara is an Idiot > -_- he definately had the upper hand in that battle wtf...
Danzo is an Idiot > Obvious misuse of the precious tools at his disposal
Itachi is an Idiot ....around sasuke
although he was crippled by allot I give sasuke oro

Well Deidara is just as much a genius as Sasuke, and Deidara can kill any character, that doesn't have lightning release and sharingan or byakugan to see the small bombs, when inside his blood. To be able to develop such a terrifying technique.. As far as I memorize, only Sasuke posses that, so yeah he was at an "advantage".
Danzo was fooled by Sasuke's brilliance. You don't always need fancy techniques, if you just use the simple ones to perfection.
Itachi was even forced to use Susanoo, says enough about Sasuke.

And as far as I was reading and watching, sasuke literally had a train ran on him by the 4 Kages, --> thank god for ametarasu or that train wouldn't have even been relevant.

Well, one can only say, it was pretty stupid attacking the kage summit like that. Clearly underestimating the power of the kage's, but it was Obito's order after all, and Sasuke wanted to test himself, although in the end, after having struggles with all kage's he ran out of chakra.

TBH sasuske is just a gifted Uchiha ..and by gifted I mean gets allot of gifts from people.

I like taka because the individuals have unique jutsu which i crave in the series but the five Kage summit proves they aren't of much use. Being that the ****ing Naruto universe is lopsided by the sharingan & rinnegan being so hax...

just my Opinion btw

Sharingan isn't more hax than being a jinchuriki such as Naruto. Besides both have advantages and disadvantages. If you dislike the narutoverse go read something else maybe? Surely the sharingan gives "gifts", however, they come with great cost.

 

[NinJaGirl99]

You can compare Sasuke to Naruto in the way that they both are super strong, super young, and have already surpassed most everyone in the world in power. They will end up being the strongest two ninja in history. But I dont know if Sasuke is at Madara level yet.... just like I dont believe Naruto is on the same level as Hashi.

This. I could see them surpassing Hashi/Madara in maybe the next 10 to 20 years.

 

[Armathyx]

What the **** is this shit...

Alright, I'm a fan of Sasuke but this is bullshit.

Defeated:
Deidara: Ok, but with plot-no-jutsu (summoned Manda when he didn't even have enough chakra to get himself up).
Orochimaru: He admits he was only able to defeat Orochimaru because he was on his deathbed.
Danzo: Ok this is a legit win.
Itachi: Of course Itachi allowed Sasuke to win, he played with him the whole time.

Sasuke does not own Itachi's weapons.

Also, he should've died against each of the Kage except Gaara, but survived with outside help (actually, Gaara himself saved him from Raikage...)

Sasuke is strong for his age, but you have to be stupid to believe he's stronger than Madara... that's crazy, I don't know what manga you're following but it's certainly not Naruto.

 

[ShadowCloneJutsu]

This. I could see them surpassing Hashi/Madara in maybe the next 10 to 20 years.

This is essentially what I was trying to say by posting this thread. I feel like a lot of people underestimate Sasuke and that sometimes overshadows a lot of the development that Kishi has given him.

 

[ShadowCloneJutsu]

What the **** is this shit...

Alright, I'm a fan of Sasuke but this is bullshit.

Defeated:
Deidara: Ok, but with plot-no-jutsu (summoned Manda when he didn't even have enough chakra to get himself up).
Orochimaru: He admits he was only able to defeat Orochimaru because he was on his deathbed.
Danzo: Ok this is a legit win.
Itachi: Of course Itachi allowed Sasuke to win, he played with him the whole time.

Sasuke does not own Itachi's weapons.

Also, he should've died against each of the Kage except Gaara, but survived with outside help (actually, Gaara himself saved him from Raikage...)

Sasuke is strong for his age, but you have to be stupid to believe he's stronger than Madara... that's crazy, I don't know what manga you're following but it's certainly not Naruto.

Well I think you've misunderstood what I was trying to say. I simply stated that at the age of 16, Sasuke can possibly be stronger than 16 year old Madara.

 

[Hulejman]

well, sasuke will for sure go to

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[HungryMaelstrom]

This comment just made me mad/sad so I needed to comment it... Showed nothing? He developed affinity for 2 chakra natures at the age of 13. His control over the element with lightning is amazing, and he even developed a technique as destructive as kirin.
His brilliance in planning ahead in combat is crazy. Just take his fight vs Deidara, Danzo, or Itachi for that matter. All proves it.
Truly original? Stop this bull shit...


Obtains help and abilities? He developed it all by himself. Blaze release for instance, is a product of using his MS abilities in a certain manner, which even Itachi did not accomplish.


Well Deidara is just as much a genius as Sasuke, and Deidara can kill any character, that doesn't have lightning release and sharingan or byakugan to see the small bombs, when inside his blood. To be able to develop such a terrifying technique.. As far as I memorize, only Sasuke posses that, so yeah he was at an "advantage".
Danzo was fooled by Sasuke's brilliance. You don't always need fancy techniques, if you just use the simple ones to perfection.
Itachi was even forced to use Susanoo, says enough about Sasuke.


Well, one can only say, it was pretty stupid attacking the kage summit like that. Clearly underestimating the power of the kage's, but it was Obito's order after all, and Sasuke wanted to test himself, although in the end, after having struggles with all kage's he ran out of chakra.


Sharingan isn't more hax than being a jinchuriki such as Naruto. Besides both have advantages and disadvantages. If you dislike the narutoverse go read something else maybe? Surely the sharingan gives "gifts", however, they come with great cost.

Sorry, I don't remember saying I didn't like naruto universe... I said that the ability of the sharingan cripples it...
but i worded it wrongly...

when I say crippled I mean crippled our veiws. Since the beginning of the show we know the power of the Biju and that never went unquestioned, but jinchuriki themselves were not all that until the arrival of bee who could harness the powers of his biju.
Thats cool and all but it still isn't a crippling factor...Its nothing compared to the two dojutsu for the readers...automatically the readers assume that an EMS possessor can solo any jinchuriki.

when I say crippled I mean look at characters like... Haku, Kimimaro, Mei, byakugan users, oonoki, Konan & hanzo
these are excellent characters often considered weak because the lack discretion and/or a well known haxed ability like sharingan and senju DnA. everyone talks about So6P and rinnegan and shit, no body gets hype over shikamarus abilities nomore or ****ing amazing taijutsu.

regarding sasuke...yeah he's good but he's not all that...real geniuses are the likes of...
Kimimaro, Haku, Kakashi, Minato

these characters suffer because they either died early or never had any excellent traits handed down specifically for them, like Kakashi.... although kakashi has the sharingan he is heavily limited... but the reason why I say he's a genius is because he's established such a well basis of jutsu with out any "gifted trait" he invented the lightning blade when he was about the age of sasuke in pt.1 ...thats a genius, same goes for minato. And Haku had the potential to be OP to the max but not because he was given a kekei genkai but because his skills as a ninja was on another level...and characters like this fades into a corner.

When I began he series I actually like sasuke but the minute he faught gaara ...I immediatly started hating.. "I mean really, I understand being inspired by someone but wtf"

Lets see
-He's born with the sharingan which is more haxed than being a jinkurichi, ...A mizukage was under the genjutsu of the sharingan...not to mention that mizukage ...was a jinkurichi.
-He's gets one of the most powerful uchihas as an older brother.
-Gets the cursed mark...which explains his pike in chakra and ability to harness control over lightning element.
-Kakashi teaches him Chidori***
-Gets trained by a Sanin...possibly the strongest sanin ...MJ
-Gets the kusanagi
-Gets taught sage like summoning jutsu
-Basically given MS from his brother
-Gets EMS from tobi

Not trying to include passive traits he acquired from comrades of the leaf...idek if i should give him phoenix fire jutsu or even Kirin cuz they're derived off abilities he was taught....

blaze release is .....eh