[Discussion] Restricted Law takes a strawhat gauntlet

[Tomato God]

Robin or Brook takes him out. He may have haki. But speed or power mean nothing to robin.

 

[sravan]

stops at brook seriously brook has some good techs that can beat law(restricted)
if he can heal he can beat upto robin i don't think without df he can beat M3

 

[Tomato God]

Actually scratch that. No ope ope no mi law gets destroyed at usopp or chopper if he can't heal.
If he can heal brook destroys him.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Law completely outclasses Brook, Usopp, and Chopper in skill, strength and speed. None of them beat him, Usopp only wins if he has prep time. Please, Law could take several Haki-infused blows from Vergo directly to the head and stay conscious and retain enough strength to react to and defeat him, but noooo, the vastly inferior Chopper, Usopp and Brook are gonna defeat him.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Law without room should be around Alabasta ark Zoro level and that's pushing it...

 

[Anduril]

Scenario 1: Gets beaten by franky.
Scenario 2: Gets beaten by sanji
Having said that it is very much possible that he may be beaten by chopper if he uses his monster form.

 

[U mAd]

his haki alone is enough to beat them the same way he did with vergo even though his df helped him abit.

law without ope ope is slow. he doesn't stand a chance against robin.robin finishes him before he can even get close.as far as i have seen law's durability's shit and base body strength and pure speed wise sanji totally outclass him.without ope ope he wouldn't even land a single hit on sanji.

 

[xanonymosx]

1- stops at robin most likely or franky stomps him
2- stops at franky
let`s not put law on the most overrated list without his df he is not much of a deal

 

[WhistleBlower]

Without his devil fruit, he stops at 6. With his devil fruit he goes all the way to Luffy.

 

[A v i]

I don't know about others but he's not beating M3.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Stops at Sanji.

Law was one of Doflamingo's most promising rookies, even before he ate Fruit. There is no doubt that he is very powerful even without usage of it.

 

[Punk Hazard]

law without ope ope is slow. he doesn't stand a chance against robin.robin finishes him before he can even get close.as far as i have seen law's durability's shit and base body strength and pure speed wise sanji totally outclass him.without ope ope he wouldn't even land a single hit on sanji.

Yeah, because just jumping in front of and stopping an attack moving at several KM a second is slow.

What can Sanji do to defeat Law? Law was repeatedly taking Haki-infused blows to the head from the same guy who broke Sanji's leg with one normal kick. Law is fending off Doflamingo right now with just his sword, Sanji was utterly helpless against the same person. Even without his fruit, Law is above Sanji.

 

[Bogard]

Yeah, because just jumping in front of and stopping an attack moving at several KM a second is slow.

What can Sanji do to defeat Law? Law was repeatedly taking Haki-infused blows to the head from the same guy who broke Sanji's leg with one normal kick. Law is fending off Doflamingo right now with just his sword, Sanji was utterly helpless against the same person. Even without his fruit, Law is above Sanji.

Because you're a better punchin bag doesn't make you stronger. Law simply lacks the skills and techniques against an opponent like Sanji. He'd neg him

Stops at Sanji.

Law was one of Doflamingo's most promising rookies, even before he ate Fruit. There is no doubt that he is very powerful even without usage of it.

Really? He barely trained for a year or 2 against fodders. It's not like he would amazing fighting stats after that compared to people who train their entire life

 

[Punk Hazard]

Because you're a better punchin bag doesn't make you stronger. Law simply lacks the skills and techniques against an opponent like Sanji. He'd neg him

Really? He barely trained for a year or 2 against fodders. It's not like he would amazing fighting stats after that compared to people who train their entire life

No, it doesn't, but all the skill in the world means nothing if what you can do can't actually harm the opponent enough to put them down. Even if Sanji's pure technical skill is above Law's, Sanji still lacks the wallop to defeat Law.

And to think Law has no or poor skill beyond his fruit is laughable.
You think Law stopped training from since his time with the Donquixote Family?

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[Tomato God]

Law without room should be around Alabasta ark Zoro level and that's pushing it...

Except he has haki.

 

[-Akuma-]

No, it doesn't, but all the skill in the world means nothing if what you can do can't actually harm the opponent enough to put them down. Even if Sanji's pure technical skill is above Law's, Sanji still lacks the wallop to defeat Law.

And to think Law has no or poor skill beyond his fruit is laughable.
You think Law stopped training from since his time with the Donquixote Family?

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Law took some hits from Vergo when Vergo said he wanted to torture Law and not put him down , if Sanji is constantly pounding at him for awhile he's going to go down. At this point you're grossly overrating Law's durability and underestimating Sanji's stamina.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Law took some hits from Vergo when Vergo said he wanted to torture Law and not put him down , if Sanji is constantly pounding at him for awhile he's going to go down. At this point you're grossly overrating Law's durability and underestimating Sanji's stamina.

And Vergo's method of torturing Law was bashing him around with Haki-infused blows. This means that for Law, Haki-infused hits from Vergo are just the warm-up, it's less than what it takes to defeat Law. Add the fact that Sanji has yet to display any level of Busoshoku Haki that would warrant him being over the level of mediocre in the skill into the fact that Vergo critically injured the strongest part of Sanji's body without Haki shows that Law's durability>Sanji's. Sanji's bone was broken and he was barely able to stand on his leg without pain from a normal blow, a Haki-infused strike would have crushed his leg, which wouldn't happen to Law, as Law took blows directly to the head and suffered no damage on such a level. Think about, what is mere torture and warm-up for Law is stronger than what it took to cause critical damage to Sanji.

Also add into the fact that Law can definitely damage Sanji with his sword. Law's sword is evenly matching Doflamingo's Goshikito and withstood the much stronger Overheat, which were capable of not only slicing into Sanji's body, but Goshikito even managed to stun Sanji. Due to the fact that Law's sword strikes are matching Goshikito, it can accomplish the same effects on Sanji. Sanji is obviously inferior to Doflamingo, who Law is keeping up with just fine at the moment without his fruit, Law can definitely match or exceed his speed. Law slices into Sanji, Sanji is temporarily stunned as with Goshikito, Law stabs him through the chest or face or continues slashing him.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Really? He barely trained for a year or 2 against fodders. It's not like he would amazing fighting stats after that compared to people who train their entire life

What are you trying to say?

Because he got devil fruit later, that doesn't mean that he didn't got stronger in non devil fruit abilities.

 

[-Akuma-]

And Vergo's method of torturing Law was bashing him around with Haki-infused blows. This means that for Law, Haki-infused hits from Vergo are just the warm-up, it's less than what it takes to defeat Law. Add the fact that Sanji has yet to display any level of Busoshoku Haki that would warrant him being over the level of mediocre in the skill into the fact that Vergo critically injured the strongest part of Sanji's body without Haki shows that Law's durability>Sanji's. Sanji's bone was broken and he was barely able to stand on his leg without pain from a normal blow, a Haki-infused strike would have crushed his leg, which wouldn't happen to Law, as Law took blows directly to the head and suffered no damage on such a level. Think about, what is mere torture and warm-up for Law is stronger than what it took to cause critical damage to Sanji.

Also add into the fact that Law can definitely damage Sanji with his sword. Law's sword is evenly matching Doflamingo's Goshikito and withstood the much stronger Overheat, which were capable of not only slicing into Sanji's body, but Goshikito even managed to stun Sanji. Due to the fact that Law's sword strikes are matching Goshikito, it can accomplish the same effects on Sanji. Sanji is obviously inferior to Doflamingo, who Law is keeping up with just fine at the moment without his fruit, Law can definitely match or exceed his speed. Law slices into Sanji, Sanji is temporarily stunned as with Goshikito, Law stabs him through the chest or face or continues slashing him.

One I was never arguing that Law doesn't have good durability I think he's durability is better than someones like Zoro, but I would add one thing you can't say Sanji's durability is piss poor because of Vergo because Sanji's body was beaten up to the point where Nami punches which should be tickling Sanji was generally hurting him. But yes as a whole Law's durability is much better than Sanji's.



Perry sure both of Law's feats were done while room was active and was most likely a big reason for Law being able to do that is because of his DF. His cutting prowess is increased alot with his room active, so again until Law replicates a feat like that without his room I would disagree accordingly.While I do agree by no means is Sanji outpacing Law in terms of speed but Sanji is faster in that category. As for your scenario as I said when Law can replicate those feats without his DF I could agree with that, as for now Sanji beats him quite handily without his DF.

 

[Punk Hazard]

One I was never arguing that Law doesn't have good durability I think he's durability is better than someones like Zoro, but I would add one thing you can't say Sanji's durability is piss poor because of Vergo because Sanji's body was beaten up to the point where Nami punches which should be tickling Sanji was generally hurting him. But yes as a whole Law's durability is much better than Sanji's.



Perry sure both of Law's feats were done while room was active and was most likely a big reason for Law being able to do that is because of his DF. His cutting prowess is increased alot with his room active, so again until Law replicates a feat like that without his room I would disagree accordingly.While I do agree by no means is Sanji outpacing Law in terms of speed but Sanji is faster in that category. As for your scenario as I said when Law can replicate those feats without his DF I could agree with that, as for now Sanji beats him quite handily without his DF.

Then you've misunderstood me. I never said Sanji's durability is piss-poor, but that Law's durability is greater and at a level beyond what Sanji's strength is sufficient enough to take down.

Room doesn't make his skill or the strength of his swordplay any better, it only increases the range of his ability when it comes to cutting. What I mean by this is, if Law's natural physical strength is at a certain level and his sword's durability is at a certain level, activating Room increases neither of these. In fact, the fact that Room drains his physical strength takes a toll on his natural strength anyways, as he less energy to put into his swings. Inside of Room or out, Law's skill remains the same, and his skill allows him to match an attack that could not only damage, but stun Sanji. There is also the fact that Law did not use Room to counter Overheat.

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