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Dude reading the movements have nothing to do with muscle movement and contractions.

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You understand that simple basic Sharingan 3T ability yet? Do I have to explain why the 3T is deadly against Taijutsu users when the person can copy their movements and perform the same way, while having the ability of predicting their next step and overall stomping them?

Do you want manga scans of that too?

3T sharingan simply shows a slowed down movement of their enemy while predicting their movements, giving them a higher chance of tanking or hitting their opponent....... again how does that improve the users taijutsu ?
 
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3T sharingan simply shows the user a slowed down movement of their enemy while giving their future movements, giving them a higher chance of tanking or hitting their opponent....... again how does that improve the users taijutsu
Try to think about how that could have been used against Lee before he kicked Sasuke in the air while he had his 2T on.

Think about it real hard.
 

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Try to think about how that could have been used against Lee before he kicked Sasuke in the air while he had his 2T on.

Think about it real hard.

I think you just don't understand what he's saying. Taijutsu is technique, not more, not less. Sharingan doesn't boost your technique, only your precognition (if we're talking solely about H2H). So it does give you a significant advantage in a H2H fight but doesn't make you're technique any better.
 

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Try to think about how that could have been used against Lee before he kicked Sasuke in the air while he had his 2T on.

Think about it real hard.

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That still wouldn't have helped him since his speed and taijutsu was still inferior to Lee's (at that time), simply knowing his movements wouldn't have helped since his body wouldn't be able to react and like Lee said its practically useless
 
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That still wouldn't have helped him since his speed and taijutsu was still inferior to Lee's (at that time), knowing his movements wouldn't have helped since his body wouldn't be able to react and like Lee said its practically useless
I think you just don't understand what he's saying. Taijutsu is technique, not more, not less. Sharingan doesn't boost your technique, only your precognition (if we're talking solely about H2H). So it does give you a significant advantage in a H2H fight but doesn't make you're technique any better.
That's exactly what I mean. For instance when Lee strikes Sasuke and sent him flying, if Sasuke had 3T on, he would have been able to not only copy the movements, but actually react to them. He would of saw Lee performing the movements at a slower rate, he would have been able to dodge it, and perform a counter all before Lee realized what was happening.

Arguably Sasuke SHOULD have been able to see through Lee's movements at that point in time (3T). Without the weights on? Well we have to assume he could have some kind of precognition to that speed, but I cannot say for certain.
 
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That's exactly what I mean. For instance when Lee strikes Sasuke and sent him flying, if Sasuke had 3T on, he would have been able to not only copy the movements, but actually react to them. He would of saw Lee performing the movements at a slower rate, he would have been able to dodge it, and perform a counter all before Lee realized what was happening.

Arguably Sasuke SHOULD have been able to see through Lee's movements at that point in time. Without the weights on? Well we have to assume he could have some kind of precognition to that speed, but I cannot say for certain.

Nope, only Sasukes sees the movement in a much slower rate with 3T sharingan, Lee still moves at a fast speed with a much better taijutsu

And Sasuke did see through Lee's movement he just couldn't react to it

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Like i said predicting movements =/= taijutsu boost
 

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Nope, only Sasukes sees the movement in a much slower rate with 3T sharingan, Lee still moves at a fast speed with a much better taijutsu

And Sasuke did see through Lee's movement he just couldn't react to it

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Like i said predicting movements =/= taijutsu boost

You are forgetting that Sasuke saw through Lee's movement with a 2T, and we are bringing 3T into the equation instead. With 3T the precog and overall predictions of the Sharingan go on another level.

Seeing movements =/= Predicting them

He could not react to Naruto's movements, who was arguably more faster than him at that point in time. So when he unlocked 3T, did you notice how it become obviously easier for him to predict the movements so that he could actually react to it?

With 3T Sasuke would be able to predict Lee's movements before they happened. This is still the Lee with the weights off though.

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You are forgetting that Sasuke saw through Lee's movement with a 2T, and we are bringing 3T into the equation instead. He could not react to Naruto's movements, who was arguably more faster than him at that point in time.

You're forgetting that sasuke himself had insane speed and taijutsu feats during the vote battle

Vote Sasuke speed and taijutsu >>>>>>> pre chunin exam Sasuke

So when he unlocked 3T, did you notice how it become obviously easier for him to predict the movements so that he could actually react to it?

With 3T Sasuke would be able to predict Lee's movements before they happened.

Him predicting Lee's movements wasn't the problem it was his body failing to react to Lee's speed and taijutsu

I guess you missed to read last time but here

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Like Lee said if your body can't react to the speed or taijutsu of the enemy seeing their movements before hand is practially useless


I'm basically going around in circles arguing with you useless you have manga scans specifically stating sharingan can boost your taijutsu skills its

Predicting movements =/= taijutsu boost
 

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You're forgetting that sasuke himself had insane speed and taijutsu feats during the vote battle

Vote Sasuke speed and taijutsu >>>>>>> pre chunin exam Sasuke
What? We are bringing up the fact that even with that he could not react to Naruto's speed enhanced via Kyuubi chakra, and he only began to predict and react to the movements with the 3Tomoe Sharingan.


Him predicting Lee's movements wasn't the problem it was his body failing to react to Lee's speed and taijutsu

I guess you missed to read last time but here
That is not the problem here, it is that 2T and 3T are both different aspects to the precog and maneuverability granted with predicting the overall movements of the opponent to a whole new level. THAT Sasuke, is nothing compared to THIS Sasuke:
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So how will he fail to have the speed and reflexes to counter them when he will have better precog than he had with 2T? When he was already failing to keep up to Kyuubi Naruto, and then with the power-up he totally kept up with his speed like it was nothing.

Like Lee said if your body can't react to the speed or taijutsu of the enemy seeing their movements before hand is practially useless
We are talking about different Sasuke's here. You seem to be comparing them, when that is not correct at all.


Predicting movements =/= taijutsu boost
Seeing movements =/= Predicting movements
 

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What? We are bringing up the fact that even with that he could not react to Naruto's speed enhanced via Kyuubi chakra, and he only began to predict and react to the movements with the 3Tomoe Sharingan.



That is not the problem here, it is that 2T and 3T are both different aspects to the precog and maneuverability granted with predicting the overall movements of the opponent to a whole new level. THAT Sasuke, is nothing compared to THIS Sasuke:
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So how will he fail to have the speed and reflexes to counter them when he will have better precog than he had with 2T? When he was already failing to keep up to Kyuubi Naruto, and then with the power-up he totally kept up with his speed like it was nothing.


We are talking about different Sasuke's here. You seem to be comparing them, when that is not correct at all.



Seeing movements =/= Predicting movements

Sasuke started having problems predicting and reading Narutos movement after Naruto leaked the kyuubi's chakra, since it enhanced both Narutos speed and strength, using 3T made reading his movements a lot smoother, that didn't increase Sasuke's taijutsu it just made reading Naruto's enhanced movement a lot better

And like i said from the very beginning sharingan doesn't improve someones taijutsu, it only allows you to read movements
 

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Sasuke started having problems predicting and reading Narutos movement after Naruto leaked the kyuubi's chakra, since it enhanced both Narutos speed and strength, using 3T made reading his movements a lot smoother, that didn't increase Sasuke's taijutsu it just made reading Naruto's enhanced movement a lot better

And like i said from the very beginning sharingan doesn't improve someones taijutsu, it only allows you to read movements
That's exactly what I said ...

I think you are misunderstanding my posts, fully. I never said that 3T increases his Taijutsu, I said basically what you have said in your post.

Which is why I see no valid reason for him not to have been able to stop Lee from 1shotting him
 

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That's exactly what I said ...

I think you are misunderstanding my posts, fully. I never said that 3T increases his Taijutsu, I said basically what you have said in your post.

Which is why I see no valid reason for him not to have been able to stop Lee from 1shotting him

The only difference being he did read Lee's movements but he only simply couldn't react
 

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The only difference being he did read Lee's movements but he only simply couldn't react

Exactly! The difference between 2T and 3T are outstanding. Sauske should literally have no problem with keeping up with those movements
 

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Exactly! The difference between 2T and 3T are outstanding. Sauske should literally have no problem with keeping up with those movements

2T or 3T it wouldn't matter if your body can't keep up with the speed or taijutsu your opponent is using, against Naruto in Vote he could react but couldn't read Naruto's enhanced performance before activating 3T with Lee he could read his movements but couldn't get his body to react to Lee's superior taijutsu

Anyway i'm done, sharingan doesn't boost taijutsu and that has been pretty much proved
 

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against Naruto in Vote he could react but couldn't read Naruto's enhanced performance before activating 3T with Lee he could read his movements but couldn't get his body to react to Lee's superior taijutsu

You just answered your own question and proved my point.

against Naruto in Vote he could react but couldn't read Naruto's enhanced performance before activating 3T
He could not react to Naruto until 3T.

with Lee he could read his movements but couldn't get his body to react to Lee's superior taijutsu
Bam

He could not read Naruto's movements in his V2 cloak ~
 

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Frog Kata is a taijutsu and those are all examples off it in CCQ



Rasengan has nothing to do with RSM just like Frog Kata.

Dude you're basically saying Naruto can't use techniques from his lesser forms despite him using tailed beast balls, rasegans, and rasenshurikens.

Bro : FROG Kata, got it ? FROG F-R-O-G
 

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If an exhausted Naruto can plant people into walls Frog Kata is overkill...

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Dude has a mean left hook.
 

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frog kata truely helped against Tendo.

Oh wait that was the kyubi

Yes it did. It's right there in front of you.

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If you were refering to deva path overwhelming base naruto then it's even more of a fail post.

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