Reproduction: Why are low-income people so irresponsible?

[Guardian of the Rain]

So many low-income females bringing children into this challenging world. Yeah, some of the blame goes to the dudes who selfishly don’t pull out and then disappear. But it’s more of the female’s fault for naively trusting the dude.

It’s my opinion that only the middle and upper class should breed.

Go to any “Rich kids of Instagram and/or Snapchat” video on YouTube. Scroll down to the comment section to read a lot of comments from butthurt poor people. Why are they mad at and jealous of rich kids? THEIR PARENTS WERE MATURE AND RESPONSIBLE FOR HAVING THEM WHILST HAVING FINANCIAL SECURITY.

The only case I can think of when it’s not morally wrong for a low-income female to have a child is if she was impregnated via rape and still wants to give birth to the child.

Hell, even stray dogs and cats are guilty of this. Many stray, helpless female dogs and cats get knocked up and give birth to stray, helpless puppies and kittens. But humans should obviously have more sense than them.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Society has broken down and degraded by "progressives" who're actually regressives. They undermine the fabric of society, encourage immorality and indecency as normal calling it freedom. And all the muppets dance around like theyre free to do what they want. The conservatives aren't any better either although slightly more so than the liberals

The system is designed to keep the poor in abject poverty and the rich, rich. The poor people hating on the rich is a by product of this and reality TV.

The answer is extremely long and requires me to write an essay which I don't have time for at the moment, I may do at a future date.

 

[Urda]

It’s my opinion that only the middle and upper class should breed.

I disagree. And what you are talking about is a Class System. You are basically saying that Upper and Middle Class are more vital to our survival, which is not true. Your rhetoric oppresses those who lower on the pole. We moved away from that for a reason.

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

I disagree. And what you are talking about is a Class System. You are basically saying that Upper and Middle Class are more vital to our survival, which is not true. Your rhetoric oppresses those who lower on the pole. We moved away from that for a reason.

I’m just saying that that would be ideal. It’s not right that poor people keep creating more poor people creating more poor people more creating poor people creating more poor people. And so on.

But there is one major thing I’d have to counter MYSELF on. Society does need people to work entry-level and blue collar jobs and whatnot. Garbage men, store employees, fast food workers, teachers, military, truck drivers, mail men, etc. Because robots haven’t been made to work these jobs, lower-class folks have to.

But then again, in what way is it responsible for a low-income couple to intentionally conceive a child? Do they just have the child and then be like “We’re poor, so you better work your butt off, go to school, cross your fingers, and try to make something out of yourself because we didn’t want to do that ourselves”?

Society has broken down and degraded by "progressives" who're actually regressives. They undermine the fabric of society, encourage immorality and indecency as normal calling it freedom. And all the muppets dance around like theyre free to do what they want. The conservatives aren't any better either although slightly more so than the liberals

The system is designed to keep the poor in abject poverty and the rich, rich. The poor people hating on the rich is a by product of this and reality TV.

The answer is extremely long and requires me to write an essay which I don't have time for at the moment, I may do at a future date.

I agree completely. No essay required. The bold is enough anyway.

F this. The crappy things of this world that can’t be helped make me want to just adopt Deadpool’s mentality. Just see the humor in everything, taking nothing too seriously. Yeah...that’s the way to be.

 

[Yeah right]

I agree with you that some people shouldn’t have children. However, just saying poor people shouldn’t doesn’t help at all.

If you really felt this way, you should vote for people who push wider acceptance and usage of birth control and birth control usage. Isn’t it weird that old white people dont want others to have access to such things? Or religious institutions don’t want people to have access to such things. They want the lowest to stay low in order to establish a base that will always need them.

They say in order to escape poverty, you need almost 20 years of no serious set backs. Hmmm, sounds like me, not having kids is beneficial in the long run and vital.

Now let’s look at the realism. Not having children will only make white people birth rates decrease even more. This will in turn cause more ethnostate problems because we are seeing now as one of many problems they see.

Whatever you say, religion is a big part of society, abortion is out of the question.

Government allows for such people to exist with government subsidies and help. Well at least they did. I read that section 8 is gone or about to be. Whatever that means.

Now let’s look at history. There has always been less rich people than poor people. Capitalism kind of wants that. It’s poor people who (ironically) buy the things that keep corporations thriving.

Now you say middle class. That’s kind of a big and wide number. Do you mean people who make $40,000 and more should have children? Or people who make $150,000 should have children? Which one? And since we have many careers disappearing, what happens when after some years, a man or woman loses job and has to start over?

 

[Ansatsuken]

Poor people tend to have more children than the rich one. It still a mystery.

 

[Yeah right]

Poor people tend to have more children than the rich one. It still a mystery.

How is it a mystery? It’s pretty onviois why it happens

 

[Honord Sage]

Careful this subject can get you label as a Nazi sines their solution was massive sterilization of what they call undesirables. Plant Parenthood founders did admire the Nazi solution to birth of Basters,sterilize the Mothers of non White Protestant. The world has always had poor Fatherless children who grew up to change the world with their acts.

 

[Yeah right]

Society has broken down and degraded by "progressives" who're actually regressives. They undermine the fabric of society, encourage immorality and indecency as normal calling it freedom. And all the muppets dance around like theyre free to do what they want. The conservatives aren't any better either although slightly more so than the liberals

The system is designed to keep the poor in abject poverty and the rich, rich. The poor people hating on the rich is a by product of this and reality TV.

The answer is extremely long and requires me to write an essay which I don't have time for at the moment, I may do at a future date.

Back up your claim about progressives.

Let’s look back at the “ideal age” the 50s. What you call regressive liberals came to be like 10 years ago. Unless you call civil rights and 90s progress as regressive.

So how did 10 years destroy America?

 

[Draekon]

this is uncharacteristically funny after watching what happened to monday lol

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

The low income jobs still need to be done.

 

[MangaArtist007]

Perhaps those on low income have their priorities the right way round

 

[Narushima]

This effect is mediated by cognitive ability and trait impulsivity and income, in and of itself, has little to nothing to do with responsibility.

Generally those with less cognitive ability and the ability to delay gratification (the two are correlated, and probably in a causal way) do not think much about abstractions like the details and demands of raising children in the abstract future - they are creatures of the present and gravitate toward what makes them feel good in the moment.

The big picture is this problem is propped up by the welfare state which not only supports dysfunctional and dysgenic breeding patterns but even incentivises it through the single mother welfare supported lifestyle that many of these women choose to live.

The solution is to mandate sterilization after the first child for women who are either themselves chronically dependant on welfare or whose partner/husband is chronically dependant on welfare. But of course only a Nazi would suggest such a thing and so the welfare system will breed itself into destruction via the highly dysgenic breeding patterns it brings about.

 

[Yeah right]

This effect is mediated by cognitive ability and trait impulsivity and income, in and of itself, has little to nothing to do with responsibility.

Generally those with less cognitive ability and the ability to delay gratification (the two are correlated, and probably in a causal way) do not think much about abstractions like the details and demands of raising children in the abstract future - they are creatures of the present and gravitate toward what makes them feel good in the moment.

The big picture is this problem is propped up by the welfare state which not only supports dysfunctional and dysgenic breeding patterns but even incentivises it through the single mother welfare supported lifestyle that many of these women choose to live.

The solution is to mandate sterilization after the first child for women who are either themselves chronically dependant on welfare or whose partner/husband is chronically dependant on welfare. But of course only a Nazi would suggest such a thing and so the welfare system will breed itself into destruction via the highly dysgenic breeding patterns it brings about.

This wouldn’t work because the base for the United States is way to big. What happens when generations are lost and when it’s time to take care of the elderly there is not sufficient amount of people to work in elderly care? Well you bring in immigrants. Sure, that won’t cause any problems from the right wing and white nationalists.

So who is having children? Young people. Young people don’t have their frontal lobe developed. There risk management is not fully adjusted because you know, they are young! Parents are not giving the right advice and offering the obvious tools like birth control to them. So your assessment means absolutely nothing and answer will only cause more problems. Try again.

 

[BlazeRelease]

just wanted to say "pulling out" is a ****ing stupid concept, and does NOT prevent pregnancy, and the more people you tell this to, the less babies poor people will have. Precum (Which nearly 100% of men make) is enough to occasionally impregnate a woman.

occasionally means it'll happen. And if millions of stupid men who have *** without even understanding their bodies do this, it adds up, and a lot of babies are born into the world with irresponsible, uneducated parents, who will perpetuate that cycle when they get older.

#1 best thing for the world would be if people stopped hoeing around, but if they insist on leading unsafe, irresponsible, inefficient lifestyles, the least they can do is use birth control and a condom, so at least no poor children are born into the shit.

For extra info for those interested...

"A perfect pull out results in a 4/100 chance of pregnancy, but studies show perfect pull outs are unrealistically rare and almost every example of pulling out during *** is imperfect. Realistically, accounting for the average ability to pull out, the pull out method results in 22/100 chance of pregnancy."

So the pull out method has at BEST a 4% chance of pregnancy. For reference, that means having *** 10 times a year makes you about a coin flip away from a child.

Realistically, you'll have a 22% chance, which means if you have *** just 5 times a year, you are almost guaranteed a baby.

Don't know about you folds, but I do it a lot more than 5 or 10 times a year, so consider your choices. Birth control lowers this chance significantly, but you still risk STDs, and the chance she has misunderstood the effectiveness/timezone of her medication, or she could lie about it, or even simply forget.

Use a damn condom please. You'll thank me.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

So many low-income females bringing children into this challenging world. Yeah, some of the blame goes to the dudes who selfishly don’t pull out and then disappear. But it’s more of the female’s fault for naively trusting the dude.

It’s my opinion that only the middle and upper class should breed.

Go to any “Rich kids of Instagram and/or Snapchat” video on YouTube. Scroll down to the comment section to read a lot of comments from butthurt poor people. Why are they mad at and jealous of rich kids? THEIR PARENTS WERE MATURE AND RESPONSIBLE FOR HAVING THEM WHILST HAVING FINANCIAL SECURITY.

The only case I can think of when it’s not morally wrong for a low-income female to have a child is if she was impregnated via rape and still wants to give birth to the child.

Hell, even stray dogs and cats are guilty of this. Many stray, helpless female dogs and cats get knocked up and give birth to stray, helpless puppies and kittens. But humans should obviously have more sense than them.

A lot of these low income families, work at grocery stores, factories, or even do construction work. It's not your business, to dictate whether a low income family should be able breed or not. Sounds like dictatorship, incredibly shallow and self-important. Who says shit like that?And if you feel like they shouldn't breed, what are you gonna do?Treat em like dogs and neuter them?...such a narcissist.

You can't handle that lower income families make rich kids feel insecure, so you want to eliminate them as an escape. I don't know WHO the f*ck you think you are...

"but humans should obviously have more sense than them"...so you're comparing them to animals...your are such a selfish person.YOUR kind needs to stop breeding...so narcissistic.

Edit: A lot of you sound like pure controlling escapists. You cannot force someone to stop having kids, just because they're low income.That's just an escape.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

This effect is mediated by cognitive ability and trait impulsivity and income, in and of itself, has little to nothing to do with responsibility.

Generally those with less cognitive ability and the ability to delay gratification (the two are correlated, and probably in a causal way) do not think much about abstractions like the details and demands of raising children in the abstract future - they are creatures of the present and gravitate toward what makes them feel good in the moment.

The big picture is this problem is propped up by the welfare state which not only supports dysfunctional and dysgenic breeding patterns but even incentivises it through the single mother welfare supported lifestyle that many of these women choose to live.

The solution is to mandate sterilization after the first child for women who are either themselves chronically dependant on welfare or whose partner/husband is chronically dependant on welfare. But of course only a Nazi would suggest such a thing and so the welfare system will breed itself into destruction via the highly dysgenic breeding patterns it brings about.

No, just no...

Dude, it's not that complicated....

All I see is a bunch of show-boating theorists that wanna act like they know what the problem is. You guys have no solution, and cannot come up with any solutions...cause it's not your place.None of you have genuine intent...

 

[Dreckerplayer]

This wouldn’t work because the base for the United States is way to big. What happens when generations are lost and when it’s time to take care of the elderly there is not sufficient amount of people to work in elderly care? Well you bring in immigrants. Sure, that won’t cause any problems from the right wing and white nationalists.

So who is having children? Young people. Young people don’t have their frontal lobe developed. There risk management is not fully adjusted because you know, they are young! Parents are not giving the right advice and offering the obvious tools like birth control to them. So your assessment means absolutely nothing and answer will only cause more problems. Try again.

Excuses. Simply just a lack of responsibility...

because maturity level varies from person to person.

You guys, are clearly just making an issue out of this...

 

[Yeah right]

No, just no...

Dude, it's not that complicated....

All I see is a bunch of show-boating theorists that wanna act like they know what the problem is. You guys have no solution, and cannot come up with any solutions...cause it's not your place.None of you have genuine intent...

Of course we don’t have genuine intent. For all we know, there is no problem. Just fake news. You are probably fake news. But to exercise our brains, we dwell in the irrelevant and see how far we can go.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Of course we don’t have genuine intent. For all we know, there is no problem. Just fake news. You are probably fake news. But to exercise our brains, we dwell in the irrelevant and see how far we can go.

Lmao, what are you talking about?

"but to exercise our brains, we dwell in the irrelevant and see how far we can go"...you know...you have this type of creativity, that can really curb or distort a topic...really, that's a skill. You must do this often.