[Discussion] REPOST: How strong is Obito without Kamui?

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My last post of this topic was not so specific so let me clarify.

As Obito is now in the Kamui dimension he can not use Kamui. So as he is now in the manga how strong is Obito now that he can't use Kamui, the gunbai, and the six jinchuuriki.
 

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He has mokuton and fire jutsus,he was pretty good with that,he has base sharingan and rinnegan even though I don't think he is that good with that (he doesn't have it such a long time).
 

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Once again not being able to use kamui does not take away from his overall skills

he still has the rinengan,mokuton senju dna,three tomoe sharingan and the uchiha kinjustu aslo the yin release,yang release and the yin-yang release

Kamui let him take blows without having to move for a quick counter attack all that he has loss is the ability to stand there and not get hit.And the occasional surprise attack by shooting out random objects form the kamui dimension
He is still as strong as he ever was.

Why do people act as if kamui is the only thing he has ?
 

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as strong as he would be when he fought without using kamui..

but I think he fights different since he uses kamui, so its almost like edo ninja,

but without it he and this war would've been over..

I don't know though, but he wouldn't beat the other akatsuki members without kamui.

or danzo or any hokages, he would lose to guy... again... idk how strong but he would still be top tier.

if he didn't have kamui, itachi would've killed him long ago..
 

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already re post?

Still he is not useless, he is still strong without kamui.
 

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why redo the thread.....

Basically cuz a lot of people are saying it wasn't specific enough and came with all of Obito's past arsenal when I really wanted to know about current Obito
 

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Not that strong. Might be like Gai-sensei.
 

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Basically cuz a lot of people are saying it wasn't specific enough and came with all of Obito's past arsenal when I really wanted to know about current Obito

There's this thing called editing your original post mate :p
 

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He is still pretty strong, but without Kamui he's probably Top 15..
 

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This is better thread than your last.lets see present obito is like fighting with pain, hashirama, white zetsu, a ms user uchiha and probably a skilled ninja who has tonnes of experience fighting with kages or manipulating them so kakashi is hell lot of trouble.
 

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Once again not being able to use kamui does not take away from his overall skills

he still has the rinengan,mokuton senju dna,three tomoe sharingan and the uchiha kinjustu aslo the yin release,yang release and the yin-yang release

Kamui let him take blows without having to move for a quick counter attack all that he has loss is the ability to stand there and not get hit.And the occasional surprise attack by shooting out random objects form the kamui dimension
He is still as strong as he ever was.

Why do people act as if kamui is the only thing he has ?
Because he has been spamming kamui from day one??
Apart from kamui,he hasn't shown any good defense tactics or reflexes. The other time his kamui was disabled by Kakashi's plan he was unable to react. Kakashi could have killed him by then (he even said it himself). He is in the same situation now.I recognize the fact that he stills has a wide range of jutsus and attacks but without kamui he seems to be "open".
 

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Katon (equal's Madara)
Genjutsu (skilled enough to control Kurama and a Perfect jin)
Izanagi
Mokuton
Rinnegan (Outer and Human Paths)

Still pretty beast hopefully he is able to perform more Rinnegan techs
 
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