technically you can do this anywhere, its called hiring an escort lol
-but- i know what youre talking about, i saw a few business that did this when i spent a month in japan on vacation, only in Tokyo though i saw this. but this is on some lonely shit. my thing is if youre going to do that, you might as well hire an escort so then you can actually hit some pussy. whats the point of having a girlfriend thats not giving you any? from my knowledge when i saw this in tokyo, none of the women were putting out. escorts are not necessarily legal in most of the world, but i know tons of rich people with no kind of game whatsoever who pay for pussy. i went to parties that were basically orgies filled with them. they market themselves as "companionship" but real ones know theyre ho's. and you dont have to have *** with them, they can just be your paid girlfriend. but it you want too, theyre down
i personally dont need too and havent. im charming and handsome, i could get women even before i became rich and famous. but like my step brother, he has autism and was always trying to get a girl, he was just awkward and ended up blowing it every time growing up. so when i knew the connect i hired a beautiful escort to spend the week with him, so he could at least get taste, every straight guy deserves to rid the slip n slide. i dont fault people who have like disabilities or deformities or what not for paying for pussy. but a average dude, like theres no excuse. someone out there will throw it at you without it being a business transaction
ive always loved these japan threads you make though
Relationships are deep and complicated, even by design. So when they or their elements are famed or turned into job, then the consequences are soon to follow suit. Without going into specifics, such things as prostitution should never be done. They have spiritual, psychological, emotional and even physical draw backs. While special cases (as Grapey pointed out) do exist and they do warrant debate, normal cases should never dabble in such. (Past, I consider it bad even for special cases).
However, there is a difference between what should not be done and what cannot be allowed. Like pushing people, some things should not be done but should be allowed, as a matter of free will (literally the mechanism through which life itself is lived). Why? Coz sometimes you need to push someone away from longbow arrow.
So prostitution and/or any desecration of relationships (including bosses soliciting favours from workers etc) should never be done and should be strongly shamed, but the actual choice should not be restricted/removed from people. Troublesome, isn't it?
technically you can do this anywhere, its called hiring an escort lol
-but- i know what youre talking about, i saw a few business that did this when i spent a month in japan on vacation, only in Tokyo though i saw this. but this is on some lonely shit. my thing is if youre going to do that, you might as well hire an escort so then you can actually hit some pussy. whats the point of having a girlfriend thats not giving you any? from my knowledge when i saw this in tokyo, none of the women were putting out. escorts are not necessarily legal in most of the world, but i know tons of rich people with no kind of game whatsoever who pay for pussy. i went to parties that were basically orgies filled with them. they market themselves as "companionship" but real ones know theyre ho's. and you dont have to have *** with them, they can just be your paid girlfriend. but it you want too, theyre down
i personally dont need too and havent. im charming and handsome, i could get women even before i became rich and famous. but like my step brother, he has autism and was always trying to get a girl, he was just awkward and ended up blowing it every time growing up. so when i knew the connect i hired a beautiful escort to spend the week with him, so he could at least get taste, every straight guy deserves to rid the slip n slide. i dont fault people who have like disabilities or deformities or what not for paying for pussy. but a average dude, like theres no excuse. someone out there will throw it at you without it being a business transaction
ive always loved these japan threads you make though
Relationships are deep and complicated, even by design. So when they or their elements are famed or turned into job, then the consequences are soon to follow suit. Without going into specifics, such things as prostitution should never be done. They have spiritual, psychological, emotional and even physical draw backs. While special cases (as Grapey pointed out) do exist and they do warrant debate, normal cases should never dabble in such. (Past, I consider it bad even for special cases).
However, there is a difference between what should not be done and what cannot be allowed. Like pushing people, some things should not be done but should be allowed, as a matter of free will (literally the mechanism through which life itself is lived). Why? Coz sometimes you need to push someone away from longbow arrow.
So prostitution and/or any desecration of relationships (including bosses soliciting favours from workers etc) should never be done and should be strongly shamed, but the actual choice should not be restricted/removed from people. Troublesome, isn't it?
Relationships are deep and complicated, even by design. So when they or their elements are famed or turned into job, then the consequences are soon to follow suit. Without going into specifics, such things as prostitution should never be done. They have spiritual, psychological, emotional and even physical draw backs. While special cases (as Grapey pointed out) do exist and they do warrant debate, normal cases should never dabble in such. (Past, I consider it bad even for special cases).
However, there is a difference between what should not be done and what cannot be allowed. Like pushing people, some things should not be done but should be allowed, as a matter of free will (literally the mechanism through which life itself is lived). Why? Coz sometimes you need to push someone away from longbow arrow.
So prostitution and/or any desecration of relationships (including bosses soliciting favours from workers etc) should never be done and should be strongly shamed, but the actual choice should not be restricted/removed from people. Troublesome, isn't it?
this is pretty on point. though i personally dont have a problem with it, i brag that i havent paid for pussy just because its done so heavy among my peers and associates. the only time i smashed ho's was at parties where someone hired a bunch of them for everyone. but i honestly think women should be able to do what they want with their bodies and if someone can afford it, they can spend their money on what they want. as long as no one is being trafficked, get it how you live
but yeah, it shouldnt be restricted, most people cant afford escorts anyways. but like regular prostitution should be legal everywhere. especially after i visited Amsterdam and Thailand. like in Amsterdam, they got ho's in the windows of shops, theres like streets in the red light district, like all down the street theres like these glass booths with prices and stuff and theres all kind of ho's in them to choose from even old ones, it was a trip. it was similar in Thailand but it was mostly buildings with windows of women dancing. i asked one lady in Amsterdam how it worked for her and she gets taxed to have her booth there and for certain certifications. that level of *** work can be done anywhere and should be allowed. im not exactly understanding why its not available, i originally thought it was a taxing thing, like you cant really tax a persons body, escorts would be extremely hard to tax. but that level can work everywhere, i dont understand why its not allowed everywhere, like you said the choice should be there
this is pretty on point. though i personally dont have a problem with it, i brag that i havent paid for pussy just because its so heavy in the circles im in. the only time i smashed a ho was at parties where someone hired a bunch of them for everyone. but i honestly think women should be able to do what they want with their bodies and if someone can afford it, they can spend their money on what they want. as long as no one is being trafficked, get it how you live
but yeah, it shouldnt be restricted, most people cant afford escorts anyways. but like regular prostitution should be legal everywhere. especially after i visited Amsterdam and Thailand. like in Amsterdam, they got ho's in the windows of shops, theres like streets in the red light district, like all down the street theres like these glass booths with prices and stuff and theres all kind of ho's to choose from even old ones. it was similar in Thailand but it was mostly buildings with windows of women dancing. i asked one lady in Amsterdam how it worked for her and she gets taxed to have a booth her booth their and for certain certifications. that level of *** work can be done anywhere and should be allowed. im not exactly understanding why its not available, i originally thought it was a taxing thing, like you cant really tax a persons body, escorts would be extremely hard to tax. but that level can work everywhere, i dont understand why its not allowed everywhere, like you said the choice should be there and can
i dont even think its possible to not nut for a year. like youd be having wet dreams and shit, its gonna find a way out. plus im not trying to be sexually frustrated out here, id be a smooth villain if i wasnt getting pussy. thats not good for me or anyone else
but ive heard spiritual theories about how its storing creative energy, thats bullshit. *** in itself is an energy exchange and sexuality is linked to creativity. trying to force your body to hold in its semen is not natural and just creates energy blockages that throw you out of alignment
this is pretty on point. though i personally dont have a problem with it, i brag that i havent paid for pussy just because its done so heavy among my peers and associates. the only time i smashed ho's was at parties where someone hired a bunch of them for everyone. but i honestly think women should be able to do what they want with their bodies and if someone can afford it, they can spend their money on what they want. as long as no one is being trafficked, get it how you live
but yeah, it shouldnt be restricted, most people cant afford escorts anyways. but like regular prostitution should be legal everywhere. especially after i visited Amsterdam and Thailand. like in Amsterdam, they got ho's in the windows of shops, theres like streets in the red light district, like all down the street theres like these glass booths with prices and stuff and theres all kind of ho's in them to choose from even old ones, it was a trip. it was similar in Thailand but it was mostly buildings with windows of women dancing. i asked one lady in Amsterdam how it worked for her and she gets taxed to have her booth there and for certain certifications. that level of *** work can be done anywhere and should be allowed. im not exactly understanding why its not available, i originally thought it was a taxing thing, like you cant really tax a persons body, escorts would be extremely hard to tax. but that level can work everywhere, i dont understand why its not allowed everywhere, like you said the choice should be there
Even besides spirituality (which goes way further than creativity whatnots), there's human rights - of sorts, can't find the right words
See, in a world of money, it's a world of needs. So simply saying someone has a choice of job is very naive. I think its called solicitation or something. Basically, job is hardly a choice. Also consider requirements for many jobs and other factors. They add up to say that people don't always choose their job.
Now of course exceptions exist, but most people wouldn't sell their bodies, not like that. Maybe its nature or nurture (culture of sexual strictness) (I believe its by design, spirituality) but people inherently value their sexuality very deeply. So when you turn it into a tool, a trade, you wreck them in ways that are difficult to explain. That's why I strongly strongly strongly . . . Strongly discourage *** work and *** based industries. It's detrimental to the human being. Also the other reasons I mentioned. In looking at all of them, my reasons, I find that even just one of them is enough to strongly discourage. So with all of them combined, its incredibly bad. Were I a leader, I'd do universal basic income just so that people are never forced into that kind of work.
Again, exceptions exist, so the choice should ALWAYS BE OPEN, but strongly discouraged.
Even besides spirituality (which goes way further than creativity whatnots), there's human rights - of sorts, can't find the right words
See, in a world of money, it's a world of needs. So simply saying someone has a choice of job is very naive. I think its called solicitation or something. Basically, job is hardly a choice. Also consider requirements for many jobs and other factors. They add up to say that people don't always choose their job.
Now of course exceptions exist, but most people wouldn't sell their bodies, not like that. Maybe its nature or nurture (culture of sexual strictness) (I believe its by design, spirituality) but people inherently value their sexuality very deeply. So when you turn it into a tool, a trade, you wreck them in ways that are difficult to explain. That's why I strongly strongly strongly . . . Strongly discourage *** work and *** based industries. It's detrimental to the human being. Also the other reasons I mentioned. In looking at all of them, my reasons, I find that even just one of them is enough to strongly discourage. So with all of them combined, its incredibly bad. Were I a leader, I'd do universal basic income just so that people are never forced into that kind of work.
Again, exceptions exist, so the choice should ALWAYS BE OPEN, but strongly discouraged.
you seem to be talking about trafficking , if someone is like being forced to sell their bodies thats another story, like i said in my last post. but thats also a common misconception that people in *** work -have- to do it. every escort ive talked too is in it because its fast money, they can make anywhere from $2k and up to spend an hour with someone. tons of strippers like the fast money and performing, these cam girls and like onlyfans, porn stars, ho's like the easy money so they do it. i think theres is a lot of value in sexuality and i cant really speak for what most people would do since everyone is so different. but from a lot of beautiful women ive talked too who could do it and make a lot of money. they dont like the stigma that society places on you when youre in *** work, so they dont do it
also *** work has always been important in society and always there. ancient egyptians and greeks had oracles, they were basically women that only the spiritual leaders could smash to keep the energy at a certain vibration and royalty and elites could pay offering to be able to have *** with them through ritual and tap into that energy. but the oracles were considered holy and revered in their societies. there were gods and goddess that ruled *** and prostitution like Aphrodite who were prayed too and worshipped. it wasnt really till Christianity became the biggest religion in western society that being openly sexual was seen as bad or kept on the down low to control people. but the same religious officials who were preaching this wait till marriage stuff or burn in hell, were fucking little boys and nuns behind closed doors
while i do believe that *** can be sacred and its usually best when youre in love. at the same time theres levels to it, theres a difference between making love and knocking boots. take the love out and its almost like a really fun workout. your body is your vessel i believe, unless your hurting each other physically or spreading disease, i dont think its detrimental to being a human using your body in a sexual way, that ends with money and maybe an orgasm too. because being a human is much more than your body and you can use it in a sexual way without destroying your mind, body and soul, rather easily actually. ive also known strippers who are in relationships or married while stripping. most ho's arent in relationships just because most people dont want everyone being able to smash their lady. but ive known tons of *** workers also who put their work aside to be a mom or wife or what not and werent like destroyed humans lol
you seem to be talking about trafficking , if someone is like being forced to sell their bodies thats another story, like i said in my last post. but thats also a common misconception that people in *** work -have- to do it. every escort ive talked too is in it because its fast money, they can make anywhere from $2k and up to spend an hour with someone. tons of strippers like the fast money and performing, these cam girls and like onlyfans, porn stars, ho's like the easy money so they do it. i think theres is a lot of value in sexuality and i cant really speak for what most people would do since everyone is so different. but from a lot of beautiful women ive talked too who could do it and make a lot of money. they dont like the stigma that society places on you when youre in *** work, so they dont do it
also *** work has always been important in society and always there. ancient egyptians and greeks had oracles, they were basically women that only the spiritual leaders could smash to keep the energy at a certain vibration and royalty and elites could pay offering to be able to have *** with them through ritual and tap into that energy. but the oracles were considered holy and revered in their societies. there were gods and goddess that ruled *** and prostitution like Aphrodite who were prayed too and worshipped. it wasnt really till Christianity became the biggest religion in western society that being openly sexual was seen as bad or kept on the down low to control people. but the same religious officials who were preaching this wait till marriage stuff or burn in hell, were fucking little boys and nuns behind closed doors
while i do believe that *** can be sacred and its usually best when youre in love. at the same time theres levels to it, theres a difference between making love and knocking boots. take the love out and its almost like a really fun workout. your body is your vessel i believe, unless your hurting each other physically or spreading disease, i dont think its detrimental to being a human using your body in a sexual way, that ends with money and maybe an orgasm too. because being a human is much more than your body and you can use it in a sexual way without destroying your mind, body and soul, rather easily actually. ive also known strippers who are in relationships or married while stripping. most ho's arent in relationships just because most people dont want everyone being able to smash their lady. but ive known tons of *** workers also who put their work aside to be a mom or wife or what not and werent like destroyed humans lol
Someone that is hired to make you feel good won't wreck your conscience by telling you it troubles them . . .
Not even trafficking, but genuine *** work. Like, similar to how a company man works at his company to make money and not coz 'free will', except this time its with ***.
Your examples aren't wrong, just rare and superficial (she says she like it . . ). The diseases, the life expectancy, the mentality evolved, the emotional struggles and so on are the things you wouldn't see coz its part of their job to hide them.
Maybe there's a reason Christianity won out? (Psst, not a Christian) Coz its ideas/teachings resonated with people? There's also an assumption of Oracles and such becoming that by choice, I think coz you're mixing up the fantasy/propaganda portrayal of what it means to be a divine being in human form versus what it was actually like. Like, religious sacrifices were also seen as divine beings of sorts, so it's not all honey and butterflies. I'm not sure how prevalent it was, but Judaism also forbade prostitution for at least 1000yrs before Christianity.
From what I see, you're examples are widespread, but not thorough. Like, they cover a lot of angles, but they don't go deep into the specifics of each angle. It's like how, in football, you can place a man in every major position, but if he doesn't put in the miles, he may as well just be a mascot. Try looking deeper into your examples, for first hand accounts of what each side is actually like. Also look at the opposing side, their claims and what not.
Looking at the modern version, its also tied to drugs, trafficking, slavery and all that nasty stuff, provides an excellent cover for it that makes one question whether the risk is worth it.
But as we've agreed, free will comes first. You could see this as just me not wanting kids to scratch their knees while playing.
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To add to the oracles point, keep in mind people remember Washington as a founding father, not as a slave driver . . .
That's a toxic human romanticism that is done by all cultures and has them misrepresenting their past like its a fairy tale.
Like, in my culture, girls used to be literally kidnapped into marriage, but you'll never see/hear a public remonstration of that because "muh heritage".
Someone that is hired to make you feel good won't wreck your conscience by telling you it troubles them . . .
Not even trafficking, but genuine *** work. Like, similar to how a company man works at his company to make money and not coz 'free will', except this time its with ***.
Your examples aren't wrong, just rare and superficial (she says she like it . . ). The diseases, the life expectancy, the mentality evolved, the emotional struggles and so on are the things you wouldn't see coz its part of their job to hide them.
Maybe there's a reason Christianity won out? (Psst, not a Christian) Coz its ideas/teachings resonated with people? There's also an assumption of Oracles and such becoming that by choice, I think coz you're mixing up the fantasy/propaganda portrayal of what it means to be a divine being in human form versus what it was actually like. Like, religious sacrifices were also seen as divine beings of sorts, so it's not all honey and butterflies. I'm not sure how prevalent it was, but Judaism also forbade prostitution for at least 1000yrs before Christianity.
From what I see, you're examples are widespread, but not thorough. Like, they cover a lot of angles, but they don't go deep into the specifics of each angle. It's like how, in football, you can place a man in every major position, but if he doesn't put in the miles, he may as well just be a mascot. Try looking deeper into your examples, for first hand accounts of what each side is actually like. Also look at the opposing side, their claims and what not.
Looking at the modern version, its also tied to drugs, trafficking, slavery and all that nasty stuff, provides an excellent cover for it that makes one question whether the risk is worth it.
But as we've agreed, free will comes first. You could see this as just me not wanting kids to scratch their knees while playing.
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To add to the oracles point, keep in mind people remember Washington as a founding father, not as a slave driver . . .
That's a toxic human romanticism that is done by all cultures and has them misrepresenting their past like its a fairy tale.
Like, in my culture, girls used to be literally kidnapped into marriage, but you'll never see/hear a public remonstration of that because "muh heritage".
idk where you live but people definitely have choice of the profession they choose. like in your point about the company man, he chose what company to potentially be hired by, what career field he chooses and possibly even the degree he acquires. needing to work for money doesnt equal not having free will, you choose not to be homeless or codependent on others for money. also unless theyre being trafficked *** workers -can- get a regular desk job like anyone else. but they choose not too because of the amount of money as i said. also every position comes with struggles, you can be doing data entry and have issues with your job or feel like youre wasting your time and not reaching your potential, which can affect your self esteem, doesnt mean theyre going to complain to their boss. this applies to almost any type of work, im a pop star and theres ton of struggles i face in my career, no matter the job there will be mental gymnastics and other struggles to get through. same applies with *** work but like i said, youre more than your body as human. in anything how you let things affect you mentally is totally dependent of the person. placing that generalization on all people in a field that its a detriment to their humanity is not fair or correct
also no fam, Christianity "won" because the roman emperor made it law, based their laws around it and you had to follow it or be killed/imprisoned, for thousands of years they embedded this into societies even artists -had- to make paintings based on the religion or theyd be destroyed. they conquered people and nations and forced them to adopt their beliefs or die, that is the reason it won out. it was created by mixing Judaism and Paganism but most people in ancient Egypt, Greek and Rome didnt practice Judaism. Jewish people also are only against prostitution specifically when its a jewish person doing it, they dont care and even partook in paying for it with no jews, i personally now even know multiple practicing jews who pay for it.....now oracales also were happy to be chosen for the most part because they were considered holy seers. ive actually read a lot about it, im not just saying shit. were they actually divine? i cant say for sure. but my point of bringing it up is in their societies thats how they were viewed and *** was a big part of their role. to further the point that *** work was important for a long time
but yeah, im not saying its the perfect career field to enter. but theres just a lot of misconceptions youre presenting im trying to clear up with this dialogue. even your take on the "modern version" is not that modern and an old cliche (though people are being trafficked still). its more like women in their rooms infront of a web cam doing sexual things and making a lot of money quickly, or going to parties and soliciting their services, dancing in a club or even like how i mentioned it works in countries where its legal. pushing this extreme narrative that if you want to do *** work, youre going to end up being strung out and chained to a bed barely conscious while a thousand dudes run through you, doesnt do anyone any good because its not true. thats like saying if you become involved with muslims, youre going to end up a terrorist and involved in killing, if you drink alcohol youre going to end up an alcoholic who beats his wife, if you get into the music career your going to lose your soul and become a egotistical drug addicted satanist, etc. though extremes are valid, theyre not the common and dont present the situation realistically. which when you keep things in the shadows surround them in shadow, it becomes less safe for those involved in it who are nothing like how theyre being presented
idk where you live but people definitely have choice of the profession they choose. like in your point about the company man, he chose what company to potentially be hired by, what career field he chooses and possibly even the degree he acquires. needing to work for money doesnt equal not having free will, you choose not to be homeless or codependent on others for money. also unless theyre being trafficked *** workers -can- get a regular desk job like anyone else. but they choose not too because of the amount of money as i said. also every position comes with struggles, you can be doing data entry and have issues with your job or feel like youre wasting your time and not reaching your potential, which can affect your self esteem, doesnt mean theyre going to complain to their boss. this applies to almost any type of work, im a pop star and theres ton of struggles i face in my career, no matter the job there will be mental gymnastics and other struggles to get through. same applies with *** work but like i said, youre more than your body as human. in anything how you let things affect you mentally is totally dependent of the person. placing that generalization on all people in a field that its a detriment to their humanity is not fair or correct
also no fam, Christianity "won" because the roman emperor made it law, based their laws around it and you had to follow it or be killed/imprisoned, for thousands of years they embedded this into societies even artists -had- to make paintings based on the religion or theyd be destroyed. they conquered people and nations and forced them to adopt their beliefs or die, that is the reason it won out. it was created by mixing Judaism and Paganism but most people in ancient Egypt, Greek and Rome didnt practice Judaism. Jewish people also are only against prostitution specifically when its a jewish person doing it, they dont care and even partook in paying for it with no jews, i personally now even know multiple practicing jews who pay for it.....now oracales also were happy to be chosen for the most part because they were considered holy seers. ive actually read a lot about it, im not just saying shit. were they actually divine? i cant say for sure. but my point of bringing it up is in their societies thats how they were viewed and *** was a big part of their role. to further the point that *** work was important for a long time
but yeah, im not saying its the perfect career field to enter. but theres just a lot of misconceptions youre presenting im trying to clear up with this dialogue. even your take on the "modern version" is not that modern and an old cliche (though people are being trafficked still). its more like women in their rooms infront of a web cam doing sexual things and making a lot of money quickly, or going to parties and soliciting their services, dancing in a club or even like how i mentioned it works in countries where its legal. pushing this extreme narrative that if you want to do *** work, youre going to end up being strung out and chained to a bed barely conscious while a thousand dudes run through you, doesnt do anyone any good because its not true. thats like saying if you become involved with muslims, youre going to end up a terrorist and involved in killing, if you drink alcohol youre going to end up an alcoholic who beats his wife, if you get into the music career your going to lose your soul and become a egotistical drug addicted satanist, etc. though extremes are valid, theyre not the common and dont present the situation realistically. which when you keep things in the shadows surround them in shadow, it becomes less safe for those involved in it who are nothing like how theyre being presented
idk where you live but people definitely have choice of the profession they choose. like in your point about the company man, he chose what company to potentially be hired by, what career field he chooses and possibly even the degree he acquires. needing to work for money doesnt equal not having free will, you choose not to be homeless or codependent on others for money. also unless theyre being trafficked *** workers -can- get a regular desk job like anyone else. but they choose not too because of the amount of money as i said. also every position comes with struggles, you can be doing data entry and have issues with your job or feel like youre wasting your time and not reaching your potential, which can affect your self esteem, doesnt mean theyre going to complain to their boss. this applies to almost any type of work, im a pop star and theres ton of struggles i face in my career, no matter the job there will be mental gymnastics and other struggles to get through. same applies with *** work but like i said, youre more than your body as human. in anything how you let things affect you mentally is totally dependent of the person. placing that generalization on all people in a field that its a detriment to their humanity is not fair or correct
also no fam, Christianity "won" because the roman emperor made it law, based their laws around it and you had to follow it or be killed/imprisoned, for thousands of years they embedded this into societies even artists -had- to make paintings based on the religion or theyd be destroyed. they conquered people and nations and forced them to adopt their beliefs or die, that is the reason it won out. it was created by mixing Judaism and Paganism but most people in ancient Egypt, Greek and Rome didnt practice Judaism. Jewish people also are only against prostitution specifically when its a jewish person doing it, they dont care and even partook in paying for it with no jews, i personally now even know multiple practicing jews who pay for it.....now oracales also were happy to be chosen for the most part because they were considered holy seers. ive actually read a lot about it, im not just saying shit. were they actually divine? i cant say for sure. but my point of bringing it up is in their societies thats how they were viewed and *** was a big part of their role. to further the point that *** work was important for a long time
but yeah, im not saying its the perfect career field to enter. but theres just a lot of misconceptions youre presenting im trying to clear up with this dialogue. even your take on the "modern version" is not that modern and an old cliche (though people are being trafficked still). its more like women in their rooms infront of a web cam doing sexual things and making a lot of money quickly, or going to parties and soliciting their services, dancing in a club or even like how i mentioned it works in countries where its legal. pushing this extreme narrative that if you want to do *** work, youre going to end up being strung out and chained to a bed barely conscious while a thousand dudes run through you, doesnt do anyone any good because its not true. thats like saying if you become involved with muslims, youre going to end up a terrorist and involved in killing, if you drink alcohol youre going to end up an alcoholic who beats his wife, if you get into the music career your going to lose your soul and become a egotistical drug addicted satanist, etc. though extremes are valid, theyre not the common and dont present the situation realistically. which when you keep things in the shadows surround them in shadow, it becomes less safe for those involved in it who are nothing like how theyre being presented
Hence I said the option should remain open, because the choice is there
What I meant is in terms of practicality. Like, if you get out of school and have a ton of debt with very low chances of getting a job that'll cover that debt +++ you're practically forced to get into *** work. Not literally, but practically.
Difference with company man is that his job might actually be something he genuinely enjoys, something that grows him as a person, something that even on its own becomes a feature of his life, something he can take pride in etc. A prostitute rarely has that. Their job is something that, irrespective of why, eats away at them and their conscience. The job is pure need, no enjoyment. Again, exceptions exist. Of course every job has its sacrifice, but there's a clear difference between the sweat of a carpenter and the psychological stress of a Facebook moderator or a CIA torture specialist. One side is about you sweating to get result, the other kind is one that eats away at you.
With the 'choice' thing and with this 'sacrifice' thing, I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm talking about finer differences but you're talking about literal, categorical meanings. Like, I'm saying a boxing match between Prime Mike Tyson and a school kid isn't a match but a case of abuse, while you're pointing out that technically, the kid had a choice and as long as official boxing rules apply, then its a fair match. You're talking about rules and legality, I'm talking about honour and fairness. Do you get me? Our evidence doesn't disagree, we're just looking at it differently.
Remember my point on your points not going into deeper details? Ask yourself why did the Roman gov choose Christianity, particularly when they had a heritage and history of paganism?
Way too many peoples have their own religions to this day, so that's a misconception (that people only stick to Christianity by force) on your own side. If nothing else, why do they still stick to it when they have ample knowledge of their own folk religions and even other religions? Clearly it resonates. Again, I'm not a Christian myself, so don't think I'm fanboying or anything.
Hence what I said on Washington. Surely his books also say that he's an epic hero, don't they?
I repeat, its part of their job to pretend everything is rosy. Just like a secretary . . .
I'm irked because our information doesn't actually disagree/contradict each other. We're just looking at it from different angles. Although I do feel a bit of a desire on your part for *** work to be 'just another normal career' which may have you dismissive of evidence to the contrary. Like, your information is correct (Christianity being a Roman state religion, some prostitutes being happy with their work etc), but it's not the end of it. Look deeper.
As for why our perspectives are different, its best represented by the fact that I'm accounting for spirituality and the theories arising from it. Again, my points stand even without it, but the way it influences my view adds a little something. I could bring more detailed points, but I think its more important to focus on our inner biases so as to understand why we see differently. In that way, we can part ways and continuously learn from each other, as opposed to simply gaining facts that don't really improve the very manner in which we learn. It's like, simply giving facts is like tossing fish at each other, but connecting our very manners of thinking, our internal inclinations and such would be teaching each other new methods of fishing. Get me?
Hence I said the option should remain open, because the choice is there
What I meant is in terms of practicality. Like, if you get out of school and have a ton of debt with very low chances of getting a job that'll cover that debt +++ you're practically forced to get into *** work. Not literally, but practically.
Difference with company man is that his job might actually be something he genuinely enjoys, something that grows him as a person, something that even on its own becomes a feature of his life, something he can take pride in etc. A prostitute rarely has that. Their job is something that, irrespective of why, eats away at them and their conscience. The job is pure need, no enjoyment. Again, exceptions exist. Of course every job has its sacrifice, but there's a clear difference between the sweat of a carpenter and the psychological stress of a Facebook moderator or a CIA torture specialist. One side is about you sweating to get result, the other kind is one that eats away at you.
With the 'choice' thing and with this 'sacrifice' thing, I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm talking about finer differences but you're talking about literal, categorical meanings. Like, I'm saying a boxing match between Prime Mike Tyson and a school kid isn't a match but a case of abuse, while you're pointing out that technically, the kid had a choice and as long as official boxing rules apply, then its a fair match. You're talking about rules and legality, I'm talking about honour and fairness. Do you get me? Our evidence doesn't disagree, we're just looking at it differently.
Remember my point on your points not going into deeper details? Ask yourself why did the Roman gov choose Christianity, particularly when they had a heritage and history of paganism?
Way too many peoples have their own religions to this day, so that's a misconception (that people only stick to Christianity by force) on your own side. If nothing else, why do they still stick to it when they have ample knowledge of their own folk religions and even other religions? Clearly it resonates. Again, I'm not a Christian myself, so don't think I'm fanboying or anything.
Hence what I said on Washington. Surely his books also say that he's an epic hero, don't they?
I repeat, its part of their job to pretend everything is rosy. Just like a secretary . . .
I'm irked because our information doesn't actually disagree/contradict each other. We're just looking at it from different angles. Although I do feel a bit of a desire on your part for *** work to be 'just another normal career' which may have you dismissive of evidence to the contrary. Like, your information is correct (Christianity being a Roman state religion, some prostitutes being happy with their work etc), but it's not the end of it. Look deeper.
As for why our perspectives are different, its best represented by the fact that I'm accounting for spirituality and the theories arising from it. Again, my points stand even without it, but the way it influences my view adds a little something. I could bring more detailed points, but I think its more important to focus on our inner biases so as to understand why we see differently. In that way, we can part ways and continuously learn from each other, as opposed to simply gaining facts that don't really improve the very manner in which we learn. It's like, simply giving facts is like tossing fish at each other, but connecting our very manners of thinking, our internal inclinations and such would be teaching each other new methods of fishing. Get me?
no need to get irked fam, im not arguing to be clear, its just a discussion. thats how minds broaden, through dialogue
now i understand what youre trying to say but youre summing it up in your perspective. youre talking about how *** workers would feel when youve never done it i can tell, its that simple really. ive known a lot a lot women that have done various forms of *** work and who fight against the stigma thats placed on them by society from misinformation. im telling you what many have told me who actually do this work. im sharing my knowledge in this area from discussions ive had offline, youre speaking from it YOU were a *** worker. like saying theyre not happy and all this other stuff but you clearly understand every job has ups and down. but as a general statement, its not wise to assume that, theyre not happy or have to do it, its just not true. maybe thats how you'd feel but everyones not you fam. like have you known any escorts, prostitutes, strippers, porn stars, cam girls? have you talked to them about the work and how its affected their life? thats the main difference here, you dont have to accept it but im telling you the truth, what youre claiming is the majority is not, thats the stigma society placed on it
the whole reason i brought up christianity was so you could understand -how- exactly we came to the point in western civilization where its seen as bad, as compared to pre christianity when the holiest where *** workers. and it is in fact the biggest religion in western society -because- of conquering and forcing, this is undeniable truth, its also the undeniable truth that Julius Cesar had it created merging the two prominent religious beliefs in Rome at the time, for control. even though there are other religions, the majority of the societies today were built on it in the west and those values are ingrained in society. how certain jobs are perceived is depend on the collective perspective society has indoctrinated it into its civilians. this goes into other societies as well like some eastern civilizations and Islam for example. but i do think its unfair that they are seen a certain way by a lot of people because of a stigma which is outdated in most of the world for the most part. but that is changing more and more through dialogue and people getting correct inisght
i am extremely spiritual, ive studied every major religion and occultism because its always been something ive been interested in since i was kid. i have about every holy book in my house and have read through most of them and i still came to the same conclusion. but if you want you can explain your spiritual perspective on the matter
