Renningan Obito w/ Paths vs Hashirama

[ARGUS]

how the hell are chakra rods penetrating something as large as SS when 11 PS slashes failed to even put a dent to it,,,,, smh,,,

 

[Brother Numpsay]

No, they don't.

2 tail: Mobility saws no
3 tail: Mobility saws no
4 tail: Magma release can canonically burn its way out of Mokuton, so couple of bowling magma balls succeeds
5 tail: Physical prowess tackles one through.
6 tail: Corrosive through, just like in canon.
7 tail: Flyies out of range

Yes, they are, They weren't just binding Kurama, they were attempting to stop Madara's PS sword. Hashirama can sense him, he'll know if he tries to warp behind him, and when he tries to do so, Hashirama fuses with his Mokuton using Mayfly. The whole alliance knows the mechanics of Kamui, seeing as the alliance is constantly sharing intel, it's safe to assume that he knows them too.

When did they had time to explain to Hashirama, when his whole focus end up on Madara, Hashirama doesn't even know his name.

Physical.

You can't physically beat this seal if it completes.

And why wouldn't he be able to react to them ? he is a sensor, he can use Moku bunshin, so what stops him from breaking SS free from the Chakra Receivers ?

Because Mokuton doesn't move with the same speed as him. So once they land, he would have to be there at that spot already to do it in time. 2nd Obito intangiliby cannot be sense, since he is not present. So a big target like SS, can easily be intangible on a spot inside he is unaware of thus, wouldn't have enough time to do.

how the hell are chakra rods penetrating something as large as SS when 11 PS slashes failed to even put a dent to it,,,,, smh,,,

In what manga? all 11 slashes went right through most of the Mokuton arms, lol?

 

[RustledJimmies]

2 tail: Mobility saws no
3 tail: Mobility saws no
4 tail: Magma release can canonically burn its way out of Mokuton, so couple of bowling magma balls succeeds
5 tail: Physical prowess tackles one through.
6 tail: Corrosive through, just like in canon.
7 tail: Flyies out of range

2 tails : Mokuton hand appearing at anywhere in the battlefield says yes.
3 tails : what mobility does that huge turtle have ? anyways, same as above.
4 tails : When did it burn Mokuton ?
5 tails : laughable.
6 tails : same as 4.
7 tails : Then it gets pounded by SS.

You can't physically beat this seal if it completes.

Naruto disagrees.

Because Mokuton doesn't move with the same speed as him. So once they land, he would have to be there at that spot already to do it in time. 2nd Obito intangiliby cannot be sense, since he is not present. So a big target like SS, can easily be intangible on a spot inside he is unaware of thus, wouldn't have enough time to do.

He can sense where the chakra receivers are and Shin suusenju can break free from them with ease, the arms could pound Madara at pretty much the same time, saying it is slow is BS.

 

[ARGUS]

In what manga? all 11 slashes went right through most of the Mokuton arms, lol?

That was Chojo Kobetsu (CK),, and the clash between 11 PS infused TBB and CK,, led the PS to be destroyed,, but the SS itself was unharmed and managed to restrain the kyuubi

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the clash between CK and PS infused TBB

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and here we see that CK despite being hit by attacks this powerful,, resulted in destroying PS,,as stated by madara

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and we also see SS being jjust fine as it proceeds to restrain the kyuubi and pick it up like a puppy,,,

seeing how SS overwhelmed PS+Kyuubi despite being hit by attacks of enormous magnitude is why its ridiculous to assume that chakra rods play any factor at all in this battle,,,,
mokuton is a nightmare for bijuu

 

[V h o]

Hashirama wins. I can't see nothing getting past Hashi buda. Although maybe in the confusion of the battle, Obito could kamui Hashi but eh.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

2 tails : Mokuton hand appearing at anywhere in the battlefield says yes.
3 tails : what mobility does that huge turtle have ? anyways, same as above.
4 tails : When did it burn Mokuton ?
5 tails : laughable.
6 tails : same as 4.
7 tails : Then it gets pounded by SS.

2. doesn't matter, they have enough speed distance to get away from 1 hand
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] Look at the distance he got away from Hachibi. Thats far wider then those hands attempting to grab Kurama
4. Ridoku Naruto vs God Tree. Edo Roshi (location) vs Naruto and Bee.
5. Having physical power to Snap a Buijuu meters away isn't laughable, especially when that same Buijuu was able to completely destroy Mokuton once it gets loose. Once with no contact of supressing the Buijuu, that one hand goes bye bye
6. Trees gets rotten out[

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7. Except it keeps its distance w/ its acrobat flight.

Naruto disagrees.

Already debunk this. The bigger the rod the more resistant it has then small. He even had hard time to physically removed one. He needed a clone, that isn't touching the rod, to support him. So again debunked. And once again, his last resort, he made sure to pull them out all at once[

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], taking advantage of the scenario before Obito does something about it.

He can sense where the chakra receivers are and Shin suusenju can break free from them with ease, the arms could pound Madara at pretty much the same time, saying it is slow is BS.

Once they are sense, in my premise, would mean its already attracted someone in his SS. The seal will already start so no. No the SS works by numbers/quantity of hands, not speed lol...

That was Chojo Kobetsu (CK),, and the clash between 11 PS infused TBB and CK,, led the PS to be destroyed,, but the SS itself was unharmed and managed to restrain the kyuubi

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the clash between CK and PS infused TBB

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and here we see that CK despite being hit by attacks this powerful,, resulted in destroying PS,,as stated by madara

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and we also see SS being jjust fine as it proceeds to restrain the kyuubi and pick it up like a puppy,,,

seeing how SS overwhelmed PS+Kyuubi despite being hit by attacks of enormous magnitude is why its ridiculous to assume that chakra rods play any factor at all in this battle,,,,
mokuton is a nightmare for bijuu

1.Manga disagree about PS being destroyed. It couldnt maintain to protect itsself from that much punches, which is why Hashirama stated that Susanoo was being "removed".

2.All of Hashirama's Mokuton that took the direct hit from the blast were all obliterated, the aftershock/match remains. So you didnt debunk anything since 1. Wood Release never tanked any prentrating damage 2. TBB damage= /Rod stake damage

It simply pierces through just like if you were nail it with a Kunai.

(thats it for the night)

 

[Unorthodox]

Hashirama wins this even Obito's kamui is a non factor in they're fight @ Vote hashirama and madara speed were equal Madara was able to anticipate tobirama ftg twice when he just gained hashirama's sensing ability Hashirama who has had that for a decent time plus the speed & reaction and who's brother is a s/t user should have no problem countering kamui not like obito would try to warp him anyways Bushin screws kamui over.

Bijuu are non factor Mokuton varients restrain them or he puts them to sleep like he did kurama or his hotei gates take them down aswell

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if 2nd form muscle juubi could not do shit they are fodderized by this Hashirama wins low-med diff

 

[kyubbi sagemode]

Hashirama could easily take care of the bijuu, the problem is obitos kamui...... How will Hashi get past that?

 

[3rd]

Hashirama stomps. Prime Hashirama had Bijuu too.

 

[Bronze]

The Flower Tree World can be avoided by having the 7th tail use it's wings for Obito to ride on and fly out of the pollen's range. Other Jinchuuriki won't be affected, because they lack a vital organ named lungs, and thus cannot breathe in the pollen. Obito can then have 4th tail use it's lava to melt Mokuton and absorb the air with the heat in it. [

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] The God Gates are non-factors, considering Obito can have the Bijuu escape them with version 2. [

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] Techniques such as Mokujin and Shinsuusenju can be destroyed with fire-power. [

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] Obito can use Bijuu as diversion to distract Hashirama and wrap him. [

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] Bijuu are not needed. Obito by himself can beat Hashirama.

Obito mid difficulty.​

 

[3rd]

- Lava won't melt Mokuton, when the heat generated from Bijuu Dama didn't scratch it.

- Obito can't seamlessly make the Bijuu regress from the full state to V2.

- Firepower from fodder Bijuu aren't doing anything when 50% Kurama overwhelmed them with a Bijuu Dama. Hashirama's Mokuton withstood a 100% Dama point blank.

Lol @ base Obito having a chance alone.

 

[Demonic.]

The God of Shinobi wins. We're talking about a man even edo tensei couldn't hold. He charges his chakra and the earth quakes.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

- Lava won't melt Mokuton, when the heat generated from Bijuu Dama didn't scratch it.

Proof that TBB generates heat before it explodes? Regardless Lava Release priorities in the manga already debunks this claim.
1. Dimitri Rascalov posting what Edo Roshi did with the trees.
2. (before stating not made of chakra) Naruto Lava Shiruken generated heat to burn and cut right through God Tree, so you claim holds no water.

- Obito can't seamlessly make the Bijuu regress from the full state to V2.

Um was already done in the manga. [

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- Firepower from fodder Bijuu aren't doing anything when 50% Kurama overwhelmed them with a Bijuu Dama. Hashirama's Mokuton withstood a 100% Dama point blank.

Lol no none of them are fodder, in fact they are being used right now to support R. Naruto jutsu. The Sage of Six Paths disagrees with this bull**** and so does the manga.

Lol @ base Obito having a chance alone.

Says no one.

 

[lanakui8]

Hashirama should win this.

In base, he might have trouble if Obito goes all out with 6 bijuu spamming attacks like bijuudama since he wouldn't be able to catch more than two, and a single TBB explosion pretty much destroys everything he has in his base arsenal. Once SM comes out, it's over. The 6 bijuu don't have PS durability and don't have firepower on the level of Kyuusanoo, so they get ended by the Shinsuusenjuu's barrage of giant fists, and then hashirama goes and pulls out the stakes with clones.

I don't think hashi's sealing gates would work on mobile targets since if they did, the question arises why didn't he just seal up kyuusanoo when he fought madara at VoTe?


Once the 6 bijuu have been sealed back in GM, it's hashi vs Obito, which SM hashi wins considering he's able to fight with edo madara in taijutsu in base, can make multiple mokuton clones and stuff like flower tree world which would make the terrain uninhabitable.

Anyways, Hashirama is pretty much the most powerful shinobi in the manga before the Juubi jinchurikis which is basically

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[Brother Numpsay]

I don't think hashi's sealing gates would work on mobile targets since if they did, the question arises why didn't he just seal up kyuusanoo when he fought madara at VoTe?

I was going to bring this up. But right back at you, how do you expect SS to be dominating with moving targets. I doubt Obito is going to make them fight exactly like kyuusanoo. Keeping their distance with ninjutsu will be good enough to wipe out of Mokutons while Obito takes care of SS.

Chakra binding receivers renders that construction useless.

Anyways, Hashirama is pretty much the most powerful shinobi in the manga before the Juubi jinchurikis which is basically

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I dont care about his opinion lol, he didn't fight everyone in the world nor experience every single thing he had face by scenarios.

 

[lanakui8]

I was going to bring this up. But right back at you, how do you expect SS to be dominating with moving targets. I doubt Obito is going to make them fight exactly like kyuusanoo. Keeping their distance with ninjutsu will be good enough to wipe out of Mokutons while Obito takes care of SS.

the thing is, the shinobi alliance had that same numbers and distance advantage over shinsuusenjuu but it didn't help them. What ninjutsu would they use. How does obito take care of shinsuusenjuu when it took 13 shurikendamas to just destroy its backpack? If staying out of range of the shinjuu's punches was really an option, don't you think madara would have done that at Vote?

Chakra binding receivers renders that construction useless.

why would that work on shinsuusenjuu? Rinnegan madara could use those same chakra binding receivers, yet he couldn't use them to bind the far smaller mokujin or mokuryu.

I dont care about his opinion lol, he didn't fight everyone in the world nor experience every single thing he had face by scenarios.

yeah, but kishi makes characters say those kinds of statements so that we, the audience, can conclude that had he fought characters below his level in a nonbiased scenario that hashi would win more than not. It's the alternative to kishi wasting tons of chapters showing hashirama's moveset and how he deals with all these scenarios. Also, it's not the first time that statement was made, we also have other statements like Kabuto stating 'there are no ninja on the level of hashirama, everyone agrees with that', 'his power was so great people believed it to be a fairy tale', 'hashirama was stronger than madara', madara: 'the only one who can stop me is hashirama'.

 

[Oblivionx]

obito takes it.... MS obito is debatable and takes hashi in my opinion since you need greater speed and reactions to overcome lesser speed....
hashi has nothing on kamui other than clones and that is with intel... without it he loses badly... and even with clones it's not impossible to figure out the real one...

 

[roncato]

Obito is nowhere at Hashi's level. Hashirama stomps.

You cannot even compare Obito with Madara :|