Renegade & Xero's "Sakura Discussion"

[Renegade]

We will move our discussion here so we don't ruin the spoiler topic.

Here's what Xero wrote the last time:

Stupid VM character limit.. I can't quote you.

Naruto is part of the team. Chiyo was part of her team. Sasuke was part of the team. That time, technically, the bridge builder was part of the team. She faced Kyuubi for Naruto, Sasori for Chiyo, Shukaku for Sasuke, the sound ninja for both of them, both of them at the hospital, Zabuza for the bridge builder. Saying she wouldn't risk her life for Naruto, is exactly the same as saying she wouldn't risk it for her team.

She's never fought her own solo battle. It's as you say, she's always on the sidelines, with someone else, hardly carrying her own weight. Read what I wrote man: "I would've liked to see her at full power doing something."

You're exactly right, which is why it would be awesome to see her in a solo act, at 110% power (with rocks floating upwards and all that badass dbz crap), and doing something especially important for the story.

I will respond to this later on, I have to go now. But once I get back, we will definitly continue this discussion.

 

[Xero]

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Too bad, I would've liked to see her at full power doing something.. -_-

You're too naive. As if she would actually risk her own life to save Naruto's.

Nice try though.

Uh, who's manga are you reading? She's already risked her life for her team, and would do it again. So it wouldn't be out of character -AT ALL- for Sakura to pull out all the stops to bring someone (Kakashi, Hinata, Chouji's Dad, Tsunade) back from the edge.

Not that, "I would've liked to see her at full power doing something," means, "I would've liked to see her risk her life for Naruto." I meant it would be nice to see just how strong she is, in both healing and/or in combat. Why is narusaku always on your mind? Hmm?

I didn't say she wouldn't risk her life for her team, but she wouldn't risk her life to save Naruto.

Actually, looking back, she haven't really risked her life to save her team at all. She took a hit for that old lady Chiyo, probably because of some granny influence by Tsunade during the time skip.

Have we really seen her doing something risky for her team? no. Yamato took a hit for her that was meant for her during the battle against Sasuke.

She's always at the sidelines, and she doesn't intend to move at all, unless it's clear to head over to the injured teammate.

When someone always gets hurt, all she does is yell the persons name and then wait till the enemy is far away from he injured person.

Does that sound like a true heroine to you who is willing to die for her team or city? Don't forget that she was willing to betray Konoha just to be with Sasuke and she cried for Naruto's return when Pain pwned the entire village when she could've went and risked her life fighting Pain.

Also this topic is for everybody to discuss..

 

[roflcopter]

What's there to discus .
Someone who treatens Naruto as shit at the same time always relying on him .
You can find a correct word to describe her from these:

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Crap, SHlT, Croissant, Cancer Stick, Carpet muncher, glory hole, ranch, wicked pisser, cunt, jackal, rice queen, wuss, Sausage jockey, hair pie, chubby chaser, arsehole, lace curtains, shitfaced, muff diver, pecker cheese, piece of ass, chicken hawk, chuck norris, itchy eye, scallywag.

:sakura::sakura::sakura::sakura:

 

[zumorikato]

What's there to discus .
Someone who treatens Naruto as shit at the same time always relying on him .
You can find a correct word to describe her from these:

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Crap, SHlT, Croissant, Cancer Stick, Carpet muncher, glory hole, ranch, wicked pisser, cunt, jackal, rice queen, wuss, Sausage jockey, hair pie, chubby chaser, arsehole, lace curtains, shitfaced, muff diver, pecker cheese, piece of ass, chicken hawk, chuck norris, itchy eye, scallywag.

:sakura::sakura::sakura::sakura:

Atleast you didnt add Sasuke to the list! Im impressed! ; )

 

[Renegade]

Stupid VM character limit.. I can't quote you.

Naruto is part of the team. Chiyo was part of her team. Sasuke was part of the team. That time, technically, the bridge builder was part of the team. She faced Kyuubi for Naruto, Sasori for Chiyo, Shukaku for Sasuke, the sound ninja for both of them, both of them at the hospital, Zabuza for the bridge builder. Saying she wouldn't risk her life for Naruto, is exactly the same as saying she wouldn't risk it for her team.

She wouldn't sacrifice herself for Naruto, sure she feels bad about him, but no way she would take a hit for him. When Naruto was in trouble, Hinata came while Sakura remained at the exact same spot as earlier. She was with the Hyuga guy, so it's no excuse for her not to know that Naruto was in trouble, she was too frightened to help. When Naruto went 8 tails, she seemed to be more concerned about the villagers rather than Naruto himself.

As for Sasuke, I don't remember her doing anything during Sasuke's battle against Gaara/Shukaku besides being in the way, getting pwned and becoming a burden, If I'm wrong about that, give me the link to a video or chapter showing the fight. Sure she would sacrifice herself for Sasuke, she girl has a crazy lust for him which is scary. and she was willing to become a traitor to Konoha for his sake.

Sakura wasn't aware of Naruto's kyuubi transformation prior to that moment at the bridge and how he would lose his concience once transformed. So she went running towards Naruto thinking he was in control of the Kyuubi, but she was proven wrong quickly and the second time during the fight with Pain, she knew about it. So saying that she faced the Kyuubi for his sake doesn't sound right.

The sound ninjas? She hated Naruto during that time, and if Sasuke wasn't lying next to Naruto, I would've said you were right. She was definitly more concerned about protecting Sasuke back then.

As for the Bridge builder, well she was protecting him which was her mission. But most of the time she was relying on Sasuke & Kakashi to help her out.

What does taking care of Naruto have to do with sacrificing herself for Naruto? Being safe in the village and taking care of Naruto's wound is not something courages.

She's never fought her own solo battle. It's as you say, she's always on the sidelines, with someone else, hardly carrying her own weight. Read what I wrote man: "I would've liked to see her at full power doing something."

Glad you agree

You're exactly right, which is why it would be awesome to see her in a solo act, at 110% power (with rocks floating upwards and all that badass dbz crap), and doing something especially important for the story.

Any fast opponent can beat her, she's not even able to handle herself in battle. Even Chiyo was carrying her weight during the fight with Sasori, and she even admitted to Chiyo that she's not good at reacting to attacks quickly and dodge them (which means she has poor reflexes and slower reaction time), while an old woman like chiyo was able to quickly dodge Sosori's needles while also helping Sakura dodging the ones coming at her via her doll wirers. A shinobi like Chiyo could easily beat her, simply by the fact that she's faster.

And don't give me the fact that she can get stronger when she's protecting loved ones, that's not true. It's just some made up BS.

 

[zagubus]

you're right that sakura hasn't really had a 1v1 fight and in all the fights we've seen her in she was depending on her teammates. but she has grown, just like all the other characters. now she's a medical ninja and according to ladyT a medical ninjas #1 priority is not to get hit! they're job is to heal the others, sakura has become a supporting ninja rather than a front line fighter. she's just fill her roll and doing what her teacher has told her. we haven't seen sakura fight 1v1 so we have no idea if she is still incapable of dodging attacks but considering her master, ladyT, places emphasis on a medical ninjas ability to dodge i'd expect it's something she's focused on throughout her training. look at ladyT, she's the freakin hokage but did she go out to fight pein when he attacked? nope, she crawled in a hole and spent obscene amounts of chakra to save as many lives as possible, she's a medical ninja and that is what they do best. so it makes sense for a medical ninja to stay out of the fight, in the back ground going what they're supposed to do, which is heal the injured. do i think sakura would give her life to save one person? not really, because if there are other people hurt she'd be needed to take care of them. save the many over the few. no matter how much it pains her, her roll, job, or curse, is to save as many lives as she can, not focus on one person, no matter who it is. however, i have a feeling that if naruto was in trouble and nobody else was around she'd jump in with out hesitation... well, except for the inevitable, "Na...naruto...".

hinata is more of a dual purpose ninja. her byakugan makes her a good scouting but she's also been used as a fighter type which is why it makes sense that she jump in the frey.

 

[Scary Yamato]

I keep seeing people say that we have never seen her fight one-on-one with someone. Have you people forgotten the chunnin exams?? she fought agianst Ino, and it ended in a DKO. not much of a fight, but it was at least a one on one fight. Post time skip, she has always been part of a team so she has never needed to fight 1v1. I would like to see it though, just to see how much she has grown

 

[Xero]

She wouldn't sacrifice herself for Naruto, sure she feels bad about him, but no way she would take a hit for him. When Naruto was in trouble, Hinata came while Sakura remained at the exact same spot as earlier. She was with the Hyuga guy, so it's no excuse for her not to know that Naruto was in trouble, she was too frightened to help. When Naruto went 8 tails, she seemed to be more concerned about the villagers rather than Naruto himself.

As for Sasuke, I don't remember her doing anything during Sasuke's battle against Gaara/Shukaku besides being in the way, getting pwned and becoming a burden, If I'm wrong about that, give me the link to a video or chapter showing the fight. Sure she would sacrifice herself for Sasuke, she girl has a crazy lust for him which is scary. and she was willing to become a traitor to Konoha for his sake.

Sakura wasn't aware of Naruto's kyuubi transformation prior to that moment at the bridge and how he would lose his concience once transformed. So she went running towards Naruto thinking he was in control of the Kyuubi, but she was proven wrong quickly and the second time during the fight with Pain, she knew about it. So saying that she faced the Kyuubi for his sake doesn't sound right.

The sound ninjas? She hated Naruto during that time, and if Sasuke wasn't lying next to Naruto, I would've said you were right. She was definitly more concerned about protecting Sasuke back then.

As for the Bridge builder, well she was protecting him which was her mission. But most of the time she was relying on Sasuke & Kakashi to help her out.

Good point, she was helping the villagers, doing her job and being a shinobi. She decided to listen to Naruto and not intervene. Sakura has plans for the future, she does not want to die, and more than likely she truly believed that Naruto could win if he told EVERYONE to stay out of the fight. Also, what exactly do you think that says about Sakura? That she doesn't care for Naruto enough to give up her life?
If Naruto were crossing the street and about to be hit by a car (the car is Pein in this case, an 18 wheeler o_o), and both Hinata and Sakura were watching. Sakura knew Naruto knew better, and she knew he saw the car. Though, if he was about to get hit, she'd run in and pull him back and out of the way if she could... too bad her and Hinata were watching from the roof of a 25 story building... -_- ... do you see where I'm going here? Hinata jumped off that building and fell to her death to push Naruto out of the way.. and also maybe because she truly thought Naruto was about to die, and she wanted him to know how she felt.
There's a difference between risking it all, and throwing it all away. Think about someone you love, now think about how they would feel if they jumped to their death from a 25 foot story building to save your life, when you were perfectly capable of pulling it off on your own? "Woo hoo!" Right? "Someone loves me a whole hell of a lot! But wait they're dead now, and for no good reason..."

When Sakura charged at Kyuubi, I'm pretty sure Kishi was trying to recreate that sasusaku moment from chunin exams. And she knew full well that Naruto wasn't his usual 'I'll protect you Sakura-chan' self. No, she didn't expect to be attacked.. all she was thinking was, "I bet I can bring him to normal... here goes nothing."

Just before Gaara put her in the timed sand coffin, she put herself out to defend a completely defenseless Sasuke, even though she knew Gaara was the one who did it to him. She knew she couldn't do anything but maybe defend herself and Sasuke. Yeah, she did get her ass kicked, and she did absolutely nothing. But she risked her life doing so. And Sakura was pulling something similar to ch437 Hinata, when Sasuke was about to leave.. yeah.

During the Chunin exams, when Orochimaru kicked the crap out of Sasuke and put that weird seal on Naruto. Sakura was the only one left, and took care of both of them, not just Sasuke. Naruto was lying next to Sasuke. Why? Because she picked him up and put him on her back as well, and took them to where ever she took them. She then stared at them both and vowed to protect both of them. If Sasuke wasn't around, she would've protected Naruto with everything she had as well.

Fine... the bridge builder thing isn't much of an argument, yeah. But she didn't ***** out, fall to her knees, clasp her face and cry, did she? It at least proves that even from the beginning, she wasn't some selfish scared-y-cat bitch...

What does taking care of Naruto have to do with sacrificing herself for Naruto? Being safe in the village and taking care of Naruto's wound is not something courages.

Still replying to me here? o_o

Any fast opponent can beat her, she's not even able to handle herself in battle. Even Chiyo was carrying her weight during the fight with Sasori, and she even admitted to Chiyo that she's not good at reacting to attacks quickly and dodge them (which means she has poor reflexes and slower reaction time), while an old woman like chiyo was able to quickly dodge Sosori's needles while also helping Sakura dodging the ones coming at her via her doll wirers. A shinobi like Chiyo could easily beat her, simply by the fact that she's faster.

And don't give me the fact that she can get stronger when she's protecting loved ones, that's not true. It's just some made up BS.

Missing the point. She took a death blow for Chiyo, and she almost blew herself up while thinking that she needs to stay alive to save Naruto and Sasuke. She risked her life for her teammate. And as for her actual abilities... I completely agree. We haven't seen what she can do on her own yet.

you're right that sakura hasn't really had a 1v1 fight and in all the fights we've seen her in she was depending on her teammates. but she has grown, just like all the other characters. now she's a medical ninja and according to ladyT a medical ninjas #1 priority is not to get hit! they're job is to heal the others, sakura has become a supporting ninja rather than a front line fighter. she's just fill her roll and doing what her teacher has told her. we haven't seen sakura fight 1v1 so we have no idea if she is still incapable of dodging attacks but considering her master, ladyT, places emphasis on a medical ninjas ability to dodge i'd expect it's something she's focused on throughout her training. look at ladyT, she's the freakin hokage but did she go out to fight pein when he attacked? nope, she crawled in a hole and spent obscene amounts of chakra to save as many lives as possible, she's a medical ninja and that is what they do best. so it makes sense for a medical ninja to stay out of the fight, in the back ground going what they're supposed to do, which is heal the injured. do i think sakura would give her life to save one person? not really, because if there are other people hurt she'd be needed to take care of them. save the many over the few. no matter how much it pains her, her roll, job, or curse, is to save as many lives as she can, not focus on one person, no matter who it is. however, i have a feeling that if naruto was in trouble and nobody else was around she'd jump in with out hesitation... well, except for the inevitable, "Na...naruto...".

You're right. But when it came to Naruto being stabbed by Pein, she wasn't really healing anybody at the moment.. she could have went in and backed up Naruto, and she would have if he hadn't told everyone to stay out of it. Not only because Pein was dangerous, but maybe because he was fully prepared to wield Kyuubi's chakra.

I keep seeing people say that we have never seen her fight one-on-one with someone. Have you people forgotten the chunnin exams?? she fought agianst Ino, and it ended in a DKO. not much of a fight, but it was at least a one on one fight. Post time skip, she has always been part of a team so she has never needed to fight 1v1. I would like to see it though, just to see how much she has grown

I doubt anybody forgot the Ino vs Sakura fight, but it was more of a sparring match than anything else.. and I agree, it would be nice to see her full power since her training with Tsunade.

 

[Renegade]

Whoa! And I thought I over did it with my last post, lol.

I'll reply tommorow morning, too tired now. It's 01:36 A.M. over here atm.

 

[Renegade]

Lol I have completely forgoten about this thread.

Xero, how do you get the energy to write soooo much? The day I made this topic i felt like I was at the top of the world and full of sugar, now I'm just lazy & tired as hell. Reminds me why I was never really dedicated to my school work, lol.

I'll write back soon, don't think I chickened out for a second! Renegade shall return again!

 

[Renegade]

Well I'm back! And full of sugar!

Good point, she was helping the villagers, doing her job and being a shinobi. She decided to listen to Naruto and not intervene. Sakura has plans for the future, she does not want to die, and more than likely she truly believed that Naruto could win if he told EVERYONE to stay out of the fight. Also, what exactly do you think that says about Sakura? That she doesn't care for Naruto enough to give up her life?
If Naruto were crossing the street and about to be hit by a car (the car is Pein in this case, an 18 wheeler o_o), and both Hinata and Sakura were watching. Sakura knew Naruto knew better, and she knew he saw the car. Though, if he was about to get hit, she'd run in and pull him back and out of the way if she could... too bad her and Hinata were watching from the roof of a 25 story building... -_- ... do you see where I'm going here? Hinata jumped off that building and fell to her death to push Naruto out of the way.. and also maybe because she truly thought Naruto was about to die, and she wanted him to know how she felt.
There's a difference between risking it all, and throwing it all away. Think about someone you love, now think about how they would feel if they jumped to their death from a 25 foot story building to save your life, when you were perfectly capable of pulling it off on your own? "Woo hoo!" Right? "Someone loves me a whole hell of a lot! But wait they're dead now, and for no good reason..."

Geez, sounds like you competely misread what I wrote earlier. There's no need for you to give the me car accident example without having the full facts.
I wasn't talking about when Naruto & Pain were fighting, I was referring to the moment where Pain had subdued Naruto, making him unable to move. At that moment, those 2 guys had a lengthy conversation, enough time for Sakura to come down running to his rescue. But she didn't, instead Hinata came. We have no idea how far they both were from the battle, but seeing how there was nobody near the center of the blast area, I would say that they were both on the outskirts of the battlefield.

That hyuga guy probably told her that Naruto was down, the same way he described the earlier parts of the battle for her. When Naruto transformed into his kyuubi form, it was revealed that she didn't move an inch.
She cried for Naruto's return because she was frightened and wanted somebody to come and rescue her. Why did she call out Naruto's name after she saw the aftermatch of Pain's Shinra Tensei? She must've realized how strong Pain was since he manage to demolish most of the village, and would by now know that Naruto would be no match for him. So why did he call him back? If she really cared about Naruto, she wouldn't have cried for him to return, instead she should've faced Pain for Naruto, preventing him from harming him. She cried for Naruto's return because she wanted him to save her, risk his own life for hers, because she's afraid to die. Does that sound like someone who is willing to risk her life for Naruto? No.

When Sakura charged at Kyuubi, I'm pretty sure Kishi was trying to recreate that sasusaku moment from chunin exams. And she knew full well that Naruto wasn't his usual 'I'll protect you Sakura-chan' self. No, she didn't expect to be attacked.. all she was thinking was, "I bet I can bring him to normal... here goes nothing."

Well, I'm glad you agree with me on that. She charged at him thinking he wouldn't hurt her. And suddenly Naruto "Bitch-slapped" her. Sakura didn't risk her life trying to save him because she didn't know about his lose of conscience while he's in that form.

During the Chunin exams, when Orochimaru kicked the crap out of Sasuke and put that weird seal on Naruto. Sakura was the only one left, and took care of both of them, not just Sasuke. Naruto was lying next to Sasuke. Why? Because she picked him up and put him on her back as well, and took them to where ever she took them. She then stared at them both and vowed to protect both of them. If Sasuke wasn't around, she would've protected Naruto with everything she had as well.

Just before Gaara put her in the timed sand coffin, she put herself out to defend a completely defenseless Sasuke, even though she knew Gaara was the one who did it to him. She knew she couldn't do anything but maybe defend herself and Sasuke. Yeah, she did get her ass kicked, and she did absolutely nothing. But she risked her life doing so. And Sakura was pulling something similar to ch437 Hinata, when Sasuke was about to leave.. yeah.

During the Chunin exams, when Orochimaru kicked the crap out of Sasuke and put that weird seal on Naruto. Sakura was the only one left, and took care of both of them, not just Sasuke. Naruto was lying next to Sasuke. Why? Because she picked him up and put him on her back as well, and took them to where ever she took them. She then stared at them both and vowed to protect both of them. If Sasuke wasn't around, she would've protected Naruto with everything she had as well.

Ok, but still it's Sasuke we're talking about here. He shouldn't be included in Sakura "sacrifice her own life for list". Because he's already been in it for like.....Forever. But this is Naruto we're talking about, and some other Konoha shinobis.

And as for protecting unconcious Naruto & Sasuke. Well I don't like writing the same things again, so I'll copy & paste what I wrote ealier

Renegade: The sound ninjas? She hated Naruto during that time, and if Sasuke wasn't lying next to Naruto, I would've said you were right. She was definitly more concerned about protecting Sasuke back then.

I still doubt she would risk her life for Naruto if Sasuke wasn't there with him. Sure she would fight them off, but definitely not risk her life or fight with her full power just to protect Naruto as she would have for Sasuke.

Fine... the bridge builder thing isn't much of an argument, yeah. But she didn't ***** out, fall to her knees, clasp her face and cry, did she? It at least proves that even from the beginning, she wasn't some selfish scared-y-cat bitch...

She was completely in shock the entire time and was counting on her teammates to do the fighting for her while she was standing there looking, and would paralyze everytime the enemy came close to her.

Missing the point. She took a death blow for Chiyo, and she almost blew herself up while thinking that she needs to stay alive to save Naruto and Sasuke. She risked her life for her teammate. And as for her actual abilities... I completely agree. We haven't seen what she can do on her own yet.

Maybe I did, but I just felt like writing it down, lol.

Did she really sacrifice herself for her? How can we be sure about that? I mean let's not forget that she's a trained medic, so he knows pretty well where the vital organs are located etc etc. She ran in front of chiyo and took the stab, she knew it wouldn't kill her because move in the line of the stab and had it penetrate her body at the right position so it wouldn't hit any vital organs. But most importantly, she did it because if Chiyo had died, Sasori would've pwned her so easily.

And chiyo is just a stanger she met in Sunagakura. Even if she did risk her own life for her, Chiyo still wasn't a Konoha shinobi and a close friend. If she would risk her life for strangers instead of her own friends, then she's not the most reliable ally to have on your side.

I completely agree. We haven't seen what she can do on her own yet.

And you won't. There are no enemies left in the manga who's powers are down to her level.

The battle against Sasori, that's the best you'll get.
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Thinking back, this whole "Sacrifce" subject isn't really what I hate about her, it's her attitude that I hate.

I think you pretty much know what I mean, so I don't want to bother myself with writing it down for you.

 

[Xero]

Well I'm back! And full of sugar!



Geez, sounds like you competely misread what I wrote earlier. There's no need for you to give the me car accident example without having the full facts.
I wasn't talking about when Naruto & Pain were fighting, I was referring to the moment where Pain had subdued Naruto, making him unable to move. At that moment, those 2 guys had a lengthy conversation, enough time for Sakura to come down running to his rescue. But she didn't, instead Hinata came. We have no idea how far they both were from the battle, but seeing how there was nobody near the center of the blast area, I would say that they were both on the outskirts of the battlefield.

That hyuga guy probably told her that Naruto was down, the same way he described the earlier parts of the battle for her. When Naruto transformed into his kyuubi form, it was revealed that she didn't move an inch.
She cried for Naruto's return because she was frightened and wanted somebody to come and rescue her. Why did she call out Naruto's name after she saw the aftermatch of Pain's Shinra Tensei? She must've realized how strong Pain was since he manage to demolish most of the village, and would by now know that Naruto would be no match for him. So why did he call him back? If she really cared about Naruto, she wouldn't have cried for him to return, instead she should've faced Pain for Naruto, preventing him from harming him. She cried for Naruto's return because she wanted him to save her, risk his own life for hers, because she's afraid to die. Does that sound like someone who is willing to risk her life for Naruto? No.

It makes way more sense if you look at the entire Naruto vs Pein battle as the car heading towards him, the height of the fall being the difference in Saku/Hina's and Pein's power level, and Hinata's jump to save Naruto signifies that she knew she had no chance of survival against Pein.

The fact that Sakura didn't jump, just shows that she won't kill herself for Naruto. If there's zero chance of survival, then Sakura's not coming to help Naruto. 0% chance is not a risk. I don't mean to be all technical about it, but that's what it boils down to. Hinata was willing to suicide for Naruto, where Sakura wasn't. If that was your point all along, I'm not denying it.
When I think of someone risking their life, I think of them getting the job done with at least one thought in their head, being, "I can save you, but I'll probably die trying. I don't wish to die, so I'm giving it everything I've got now to save us both."

Well, I'm glad you agree with me on that. She charged at him thinking he wouldn't hurt her. And suddenly Naruto "Bitch-slapped" her. Sakura didn't risk her life trying to save him because she didn't know about his lose of conscience while he's in that form.

You're right.

"sacrifice her own life for list"

Sacrifice = suicide, risk = survival. Huge difference in my book, probability and certainty.

And as for protecting unconcious Naruto & Sasuke. Well I don't like writing the same things again, so I'll copy & paste what I wrote ealier

Renegade: The sound ninjas? She hated Naruto during that time, and if Sasuke wasn't lying next to Naruto, I would've said you were right. She was definitly more concerned about protecting Sasuke back then.

I still doubt she would risk her life for Naruto if Sasuke wasn't there with him. Sure she would fight them off, but definitely not risk her life or fight with her full power just to protect Naruto as she would have for Sasuke.

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She was completely in shock the entire time and was counting on her teammates to do the fighting for her while she was standing there looking, and would paralyze everytime the enemy came close to her.

She was doing everything she could do. I reread the Zabuza fight just now, and I stand by my statement.

Did she really sacrifice herself for her? How can we be sure about that? I mean let's not forget that she's a trained medic, so he knows pretty well where the vital organs are located etc etc. She ran in front of chiyo and took the stab, she knew it wouldn't kill her because move in the line of the stab and had it penetrate her body at the right position so it wouldn't hit any vital organs. But most importantly, she did it because if Chiyo had died, Sasori would've pwned her so easily.

And chiyo is just a stanger she met in Sunagakura. Even if she did risk her own life for her, Chiyo still wasn't a Konoha shinobi and a close friend. If she would risk her life for strangers instead of her own friends, then she's not the most reliable ally to have on your side.

She didn't know for sure she'd survive that stab wound. Even Sasori stated that he hit his mark. And Chiyo wasn't a stranger at that point, she was part of her team, and she cared for Chiyo. That's my entire point - Sakura's just like Naruto, Sasuke and Kakashi in the sense that they'd all risk their lives to protect someone they care about. Remember Naruto's line to Tsunade? "I'm not going anywhere until I become Hokage." I bet Sakura feels the same, and she's not going anywhere until she knows both Naruto and Sasuke are safe.

Thinking back, this whole "Sacrifce" subject isn't really what I hate about her, it's her attitude that I hate.

I think you pretty much know what I mean, so I don't want to bother myself with writing it down for you.

Hmm... I guess so. But I also think you're refusing to acknowledge Kishi's development for her. Her attitude towards Naruto especially has changed, from hating on him for being different, to caring for him just barely enough to hit him for doing stupid shit, all the way to being completely willing to risk her life for him.