Reminder: Enton/Amaterasu uses a ton of chakra (EMS Sasuke is a chakra beast)!

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Perfect susanoo as shown by madara and kakashi has the wings and Sasuke got that with the sage powerup.
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Completely different.
 

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Perfect susanoo as shown by madara and kakashi has the wings and Sasuke got that with the sage powerup.

Yeah... no. That was most definitely PS that he used. No wings argument is fucking silly when the Susanoo that Sasuke used in the Boruto movie had either. Sasuke's EMS PS had the tengu nose which is characterist of ALL Perfect Susanoo's showed so far, and the diamond thing on his forehead. Its sad I'm still arguing about this. You are a known troll on Versus Colosseum so I have no clue why I'm even doing this.


OT: Good thread and LOLing at the people saying KCM Naruto = EMS Sasuke. Like EMS Sasuke doens't low diff KCM Naruto on a bad day :lmao:
 

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Not just that you can check their characteristics to.
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Completely different.

You can tell by the face what he used on Kurama was a pre-mature version of PS but not PS itself. If Sasuke had PS he would've used it against the Juubi and JJ Obito because it has a lot more power.
 

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You can tell by the face what he used on Kurama was a pre-mature version of PS but not PS itself. If Sasuke had PS he would've used it against the Juubi and JJ Obito because it has a lot more power.

You of all people know Sasuke's Susanoo evolved the more he use it and that's the same thing happened here.
 

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Ok maybe for sm naruto and not kcm naruto. Look all i'm trying to say is that sasuke dojutsu chakra was equal to kcm naruto chakra even though they didn't have the same quantity.
KCM Naruto would run out faster depending on which it was. Early KCM Naruto had Kurama taking his chakra and FRS cost a load of it.
How is it irrelevant if it means the chakra is stronger then the one used by kmc witch is what EMS adapted? Meaning the only reason why the amount it launchs is limited is dual the fact that its more potent and trust me its more powerfull then just a mountain buster:snick:
It's irrelevant because an Enton arrow had the same chakra output but it isn't a mountain buster. More chakra won't equal a bigger explosion.
 

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You of all people know Sasuke's Susanoo evolved the more he use it and that's the same thing happened here.

I used to think that too but then I remembered that PS was originally used by Indra who possessed Rikudou chakra. I think without the same chakra Indra had you can't unlock PS naturally, and the reason Madara has it is because as the first Uchiha with MS he most likely had the closest chakra to Indra's like Hashirama having the closest body to Ashura's.

It's just my theory though, imo Madara having the raw chakra to match someone of Hashirama's level would have been the reason he lacked MS abilities..
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EMS Madara = Indra's chakra

EMS Sasuke = Indra's ninjutsu

MS Itachi = Indra's genjutsu
 

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Yeah... no. That was most definitely PS that he used. No wings argument is fucking silly when the Susanoo that Sasuke used in the Boruto movie had either. Sasuke's EMS PS had the tengu nose which is characterist of ALL Perfect Susanoo's showed so far, and the diamond thing on his forehead. Its sad I'm still arguing about this. You are a known troll on Versus Colosseum so I have no clue why I'm even doing this.


OT: Good thread and LOLing at the people saying KCM Naruto = EMS Sasuke. Like EMS Sasuke doens't low diff KCM Naruto on a bad day :lmao:

No it wasn't perfect susanoo. PS has the wings as shown by other PS users. That wasn't PS either that was just his normal susanoo. All PS shown in the manga had wings as proven when Madara called his Susanoo (with wings) PS and not before with the other versions. Never been on versus coliseum so don't even know what you talking about. No one asked you to quote me so if you're wondering why you arguing about this don't quote me then you won't have to wonder.

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It wasn't perfect susanoo he only got that when he got the rinnegan.
:| That was PS covering Kurama fam. Rinnegan isn't gonna upgrade a MS/EMS ability otherwise Madara would have never had PS.
Perfect susanoo as shown by madara and kakashi has the wings and Sasuke got that with the sage powerup.
Still wrong. Madara gave his PS 4 arms Sasuke gave his 2 and used the other 2 as wings the other 2 arms on PS are the wings on every PS. There is no Sasuke got this PS with the sages power up it's all the same.
I used to think that too but then I remembered that PS was originally used by Indra who possessed Rikudou chakra. I think without the same chakra Indra had you can't unlock PS naturally, and the reason Madara has it is because as the first Uchiha with MS he most likely had the closest chakra to Indra's like Hashirama having the closest body to Ashura's.

It's just my theory though, imo Madara having the raw chakra to match someone of Hashirama's level would have been the reason he lacked MS abilities..
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EMS Madara = Indra's chakra

EMS Sasuke = Indra's ninjutsu

MS Itachi = Indra's genjutsu
Though this is wrong. EMS Madara obviously had Indra's chakra he was his transmigrant but Sasuke have his chakra too. There is no Madara had Indra's this or Sasuke had Indra's that. They both had Indra's chakra from being his transmigrant. And Itachi had nothing from Indra.
 

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:| That was PS covering Kurama fam. Rinnegan isn't gonna upgrade a MS/EMS ability otherwise Madara would have never had PS.

Still wrong. Madara gave his PS 4 arms Sasuke gave his 2 and used the other 2 as wings the other 2 arms on PS are the wings on every PS. There is no Sasuke got this PS with the sages power up it's all the same.

Though this is wrong. EMS Madara obviously had Indra's chakra he was his transmigrant but Sasuke have his chakra too. There is no Madara had Indra's this or Sasuke had Indra's that. They both had Indra's chakra from being his transmigrant. And Itachi had nothing from Indra.

How do you explain kakashi getting PS with only MS then?
 

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How do you explain kakashi getting PS with only MS then?

PS is an MS/EMS technique. Since Kakashi didn't have EMS Obito's chakra which still had a bit of sage chakra helped push it over. If sage chakra was for PS then Madara wouldn't have and couldn't have used it vs Hashirama. And it would never have been said that EMS give you a new technique(PS)


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It wasn't perfect susanoo he only got that when he got the rinnegan.

it was PS but adjusted to fit Kurama's form. Here's an explanation why. It's made by Kidgamer65.
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Tsunade is amazed that Hashirama fought this thing. Onoki asks why Madara held back. (held PS back) Madara says that adults don't beat up kids w/ their full power, confirming that he had PS back then. Confirming that he used it on Hashirama. 2. Madara -Same Mountain Cutting abilities.
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-Same Swords, shoulder guards, tengu nose, and diamond as the regular PS.
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Now we have Sasuke's PS on Kurama.
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Too similar to PS for anyone to logically say that it's not PS, but some other version of Susanoo that looks nothing like what's in the pic. 3. Sasuke states he's doing what Madara did in the past.
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-Hashirama's reaction confirms that he is.
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Sasuke has PS and it's a Manga Fact.[/IMG][/SPOILER]

OP: Cool thread man. Always thought Sasuke had more than average reserves.
 

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base naruto reserves>>>>ems sasuke reserves
 

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PS is an MS/EMS technique. Since Kakashi didn't have EMS Obito's chakra which still had a bit of sage chakra helped push it over. If sage chakra was for PS then Madara wouldn't have and couldn't have used it vs Hashirama. And it would never have been said that EMS give you a new technique(PS)


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Still not convinced but not going to argue about it with. Anyway when was it even said EMS gives you perfect susanoo all that's been said was you don't lose the light in your eyes.
 

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it was PS but adjusted to fit Kurama's form. Here's an explanation why. It's made by Kidgamer65.
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Tsunade is amazed that Hashirama fought this thing. Onoki asks why Madara held back. (held PS back) Madara says that adults don't beat up kids w/ their full power, confirming that he had PS back then. Confirming that he used it on Hashirama. 2. Madara -Same Mountain Cutting abilities.
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-Same Swords, shoulder guards, tengu nose, and diamond as the regular PS.
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Now we have Sasuke's PS on Kurama.
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Too similar to PS for anyone to logically say that it's not PS, but some other version of Susanoo that looks nothing like what's in the pic. 3. Sasuke states he's doing what Madara did in the past.
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-Hashirama's reaction confirms that he is.
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Sasuke has PS and it's a Manga Fact.[/IMG][/SPOILER]

OP: Cool thread man. Always thought Sasuke had more than average reserves.

Okay I get it now too many forms it gets confusing sometimes.
 

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Pointless thread. as his dojutsu is taken to the next lvl so does his chakra reserves.
 

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base naruto reserves>>>>ems sasuke reserves
:lmao: Tf is this ish?
Still not convinced but not going to argue about it with. Anyway when was it even said EMS gives you perfect susanoo all that's been said was you don't lose the light in your eyes.
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