Religion

[Son Ryuto Uzumaki]

Religion has no point in this world anymore its all about the spiritual

 

[Made in Heaven]

Whats yur point? And also, nebulas can harm you. If you happen to be in part of nebula where a star burst to life, then... oh boy.

But that can't happen. The sun won't explode for a long time.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Lol
I asked if you had scriptures from the Quran, I want to check it out myself

No, the Quran is just the Quran. It's divided into Juzus, then Suras, then Ayats. But it's all in the same book

There are other books that are compilations of Muhammad's sayings though

 

[HadouKage]

No, the Quran is just the Quran. There are other books that are compilations of Muhammad's sayings though

???
The Quran is a book that has writing from him no?
You don't have any sources for it?

 

[Wolfus]

I agree, being ignorant to a problem won't solve it. But being aggressive neither. People should just once in a while sit, shut up and listen and only then once they have absorbed everything state their opinion.

Agreed. People really have a hard time listening.

 

[Wolfus]

Religion has no point in this world anymore its all about the spiritual

Religion is nothing more than an opinion that many people share. This opinion is that god(s) exist and he/they created everything and has/have the power to control everything.
As I said, this whole thing is unsure. So people are allowed to have their opinions, and these people must be respected.

 

[xLucyx]

I don't know. There are fanatics of many types, including atheists. And fanaticism is not only related to religion either, even fanboyism is a form of fanaticism. I don't know if we can do something about this problem.

You can't deny that fanatics are usually nice to you, unless you take their religion. What is the point of your thread? To let others know that every religion isn't that bad, unless you talk about fanatics? I think most people know that, but why shouldn't you use your brain to think about a solution? 'Cause that is what I'm trying to do and I still don't have a solution. Do you have one? If so, please let me know.

 

[Prime Rib]

only way is through jesus christ

 

[Wolfus]

You can't deny that fanatics are usually nice to you, unless you take their religion. What is the point of your thread? To let others know that every religion isn't that bad, unless you talk about fanatics? I think most people know that, but why shouldn't you use your brain to think about a solution? 'Cause that is what I'm trying to do and I still don't have a solution. Do you have one? If so, please let me know.

Fanatics are a pain to me. They are a pain to everyone, even those who share the same religion as them.

The point of the thread is to show that not all religious people are dumb, that religious people must be respected.
And bold is false- I've seen many exemples that a fanatic do something and people say all religious people are like that. This is a mistake, and I'm explaining why.

 

[Turson]

But that can't happen. The sun won't explode for a long time.

Our sun wont explode at all, its too small for that, only the massive stars dies as supernovas. Also, we can basically die at any second just becuase of collision with meteorite, like dinosaurs. Basically, space is very, very dangerous place. If God was all good and loving, I think he would make it a bit more friendly, thats why I believe he, if he exist, has a nature of scientist.

 

[P3ĮÑ]

???
The Quran is a book that has writing from him no?
You don't have any sources for it?

You mean the creation of mankind, man and women? Well the Quran says this

وَلَقَدْ خَلَقْنَا الْإِنسَانَ مِن سُلَالَةٍ مِّن طِينٍ
ثُمَّ جَعَلْنَاهُ نُطْفَةً فِي قَرَارٍ مَّكِينٍ
ثُمَّ خَلَقْنَا النُّطْفَةَ عَلَقَةً فَخَلَقْنَا الْعَلَقَةَ مُضْغَةً فَخَلَقْنَا الْمُضْغَةَ عِظَامًا فَكَسَوْنَا الْعِظَامَ لَحْمًا ثُمَّ أَنشَأْنَاهُ خَلْقًا آخَرَ فَتَبَارَكَ اللَّهُ أَحْسَنُ الْخَالِقِينَ
“Verily We created man from a product of wet earth; then placed him as a drop (of seed) in a safe lodging; then We fashioned the drop into a clot, then We fashioned the clot into a little lump, then We fashioned the little lump into bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, and then produced it another creation. So blessed be Allāh, the Best of Creators!” [23:12-14]

هُوَ الَّذِي خَلَقَكُم مِّن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ مِن نُّطْفَةٍ ثُمَّ مِنْ عَلَقَةٍ ثُمَّ يُخْرِجُكُمْ طِفْلًا ثُمَّ لِتَبْلُغُوا أَشُدَّكُمْ ثُمَّ لِتَكُونُوا شُيُوخًا وَمِنكُم مَّن يُتَوَفَّى مِن قَبْلُ وَلِتَبْلُغُوا أَجَلًا مُّسَمًّى وَلَعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ
“It is He Who has created you from dust then from a sperm-drop, then from a leech-like clot; then does he get you out (into the light) as a child: then lets you (grow and) reach your age of full strength; then lets you become old,- though of you there are some who die before;- and lets you reach a term appointed; in order that you may learn wisdom.” [40:67]

According to Tafsir Ibn Kathir, this reference to man's creation from “تُرَابٍ”, or dust, implies the origin of mankind viz. the creation of the first human being, Prophet Adam [عليه السلام], from dust: “["And Allāh did create you from dust, then from Nutfah"], means, He initiated the creation of Adam from dust, then He created his offspring from semen of worthless water.”

وَأَنَّهُ خَلَقَ الزَّوْجَيْنِ الذَّكَرَ وَالْأُنثَى – مِن نُّطْفَةٍ إِذَا تُمْنَى
“That He did create in pairs,- male and female, from a seed when lodged (in its place);” [53:45-46]

كَمَا بَدَأْنَا أَوَّلَ خَلْقٍ نُّعِيدُهُ وَعْدًا عَلَيْنَا إِنَّا كُنَّا فَاعِلِينَ
“…Even as We produced the first creation, so shall We produce a new one; a promise We have undertaken. Truly shall We fulfil it.” [21:104]

Not sure if this wat you asked.if not, oops lol.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Do you realize yet how pointless this was?

 

[xLucyx]

Fanatics are a pain to me. They are a pain to everyone, even those who share the same religion as them.

The point of the thread is to show that not all religious people are dumb, that religious people must be respected.
And bold is false- I've seen many exemples that a fanatic do something and people say all religious people are like that. This is a mistake, and I'm explaining why.

Oh really? I think most atheïsm knows that. At least in my village they do. I don't disrespect religious people, I disrespect all fanatics.

 

[Wolfus]

Oh really? I think most atheïsm knows that. At least in my village they do. I don't disrespect religious people, I disrespect all fanatics.

Then you didn't see countless comments in many sites. "All religious people are stupid and they should die". You tube, 9 gag, NB, comic vine, real life. I've seen. Oh, and I've seen this many times, many times. I wanted to show how mistaken that is to see if some people would stop that.
The way I see it, people who say these are just fanatics as well, but they are atheists fanatics. Jusat as I explained in C, this is another way to push their opinion into people's throat.
The problem is that I've seen this a lot, way more than I've seen religious fanatics(at least here on the internet).

 

[xLucyx]

Then you didn't see countless comments in many sites. "All religious people are stupid and they should die". You tube, 9 gag, NB, comic vine, real life. I've seen. Oh, and I've seen this many times, many times. I wanted to show how mistaken that is to see if some people would stop that.
The way I see it, people who say these are just fanatics as well, but they are atheists fanatics. Jusat as I explained in C, this is another way to push their opinion into people's throat.
The problem is that I've seen this a lot, way more than I've seen religious fanatics(at least here on the internet).

Hmm, okay then, if you say it like that...But I've seen more fanatics then people who say "All religious people are stupid and they should die". But let me say: Why do you think that people say that?

 

[Joker]

Wolfus, can you summarize this for me?

 

[Wolfus]

Hmm, okay then, if you say it like that...But I've seen more fanatics then people who say "All religious people are stupid and they should die". But let me say: Why do you think that people say that?

Because of prejudice. Didn't I explained this in A?

 

[Wolfus]

Wolfus, can you summarize this for me?

I'll try: The point of the thread is to show that not all religious people are dumb, that religious people must be respected.

The point of the thread is to show that religious people must be respect and must have their rights just like anybody else.

As I said, nobody knows if God exists or not, nobody knows how everything came to be. We don't have theories about the origin of the universe with enough evidences to be considered the truth.

People can believe in whatever they want to: that won't make them stupid or evil. That's my point.
Until we find the truth, stop stating what you think as a fact. And stop fighting because of it.

Learn to live, to respect, and to accept the diferences.

I guess this is it. But I think you should read the thread if you have time. It really explains everything concerning this summary.

 

[Joker]

I'll try: The point of the thread is to show that not all religious people are dumb, that religious people must be respected.

The point of the thread is to show that religious people must be respect and must have their rights just like anybody else.

As I said, nobody knows if God exists or not, nobody knows how everything came to be. We don't have theories about the origin of the universe with enough evidences to be considered the truth.

People can believe in whatever they want to: that won't make them stupid or evil. That's my point.
Until we find the truth, stop stating what you think as a fact. And stop fighting because of it.

Learn to live, to respect, and to accept the diferences.

I guess this is it. But I think you should read the thread if you have time. It really explains everything concerning this summary.

I mean, you hit the nail right on the spot. It's just that the type of religous people I have no respect for are the fanatics trying to push their beliefs on your face; always claiming they're right and you're wrong. It's extremely aggrivating

 

[xLucyx]

Because of prejudice. Didn't I explained this in A?

Hmm, maybe prejudice, but I think most of experience. At least I myself don't believe prejudices often.