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First off I know of the recent "science thread", which was about how did anything/everything come into being, But that's not what I want to address, now most of the post I read on there many people didn't seem to acknowledge God or even believe he exists. Now I've come to tell all of you that a "supreme being" does indeed exist and if you don't believe so, then your a totally gullible person that eats up everything the main stream media and scientist tells you (hawkins especially).

Now one of the basic laws of physics in science today is that non-life cannot bring rise to life, so how did "life form" first came into existence on earth?. Now the most scientifically common explanation is that when the earth was form 4.+ billion years ago water+ some basic elements came together to form the first cellular/micro organism (contradiction non life cannot form life), then over a extended period of time micro/cellular organism evolved into complex organism, scientist today call this process macroevolution (that's right macro not mirco). now let me explain how illogical and unrealistic macro evolution and evolution period is. Now the basic explanation for evolution in science is "time" and "chance", what this means is that their basically saying life begun in water thus the first complex life was sea creatures, now they claim over an extended period of time a fish like organism transformed into the first mammal (we don't see a fishes turn into cats today).

Now a fish cannot and I repeat cannot miraculously turn into a rabbit by mere time and chance, NEW chromosome MUST be added to the gene pool of the fish to change its characteristics to that of a mammal, therefore some supreme being has been adding to the gene pools of organisms to form complete different new organism throughout the history of the world, scientist consistently under mind this miraculous phenomenon by coming up with weak and shallow explanations about time, probability, mutation and chance to illuminate their far-fetched theories , which is them being in denial of a God. NEW chromosomes/dna can't just come out of nowhere over a long period (millions of years) of time either someone or something must have created and added this new information to the gene pools (or created them from scratch), mutation is a non factor because mutation damages and alters pre-existing dna it doesn't form new dna (this is a fact).

Now it just so happen that earth is at an specific distance from the sun, which enables it to harbour life, is this just by chance?, the ozone layer is a sheet over the earth that blocks out the extra violet rays from the sun, did that just magically appeared there, just by chance?, the moon is at a specific distance from the earth, that allows the oceans to form proper waves, specific/proper amount of co2, o2, hydrogen etc exist in our atmosphere to maintain suitable weather conditions to sustain life. The earth it self is just too much of a geniusly complex engineered system to have just happened by mere probability and chance. a single cell that is naked to the human eye is able to store a billion years of history and information! (One human cell), these miraculous, complex engineering doesn't just happen without "supreme intervention", so only a WEAK MINDED FOOL would assume God doesn't exit....NO apologies.

There's so much more I could add to this, but this will have to do.
 

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I think that people refuse to believe that there is something or someone greater than them. They want to understand something that they can't comprehend as a mortal and it frustraits them. So they go off and deny what is in front of them so that they can "explaine" something more comprehendable be it true or not.
 
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Honestly, If scientists are to simple minded to not even back up the answers, why would I trust their statements. I asked the head scientist at Harvard University "How was the universe created?" He called me a dunce and said, " The Big Bang created the universe." But then again what created the Big Bang? It couldn't have just happened. Some chain reaction had to have created the big bang. But then again what would have created that chain reaction? The only possible explanation would be that it was created by an extraordinary being/event. Thats were god came in, he created the universe in 6 days and rested on the seventh. He created every species of animal, including man. He took the rib of man and a handful of dirt, then blew into it to create the first woman. The theory of evolution is a hoax created by Lucifer himself to try and direct man from god, just as he did in the Garden of Edan. Why is mankind to naive to see this? But I Agree with your opinion one hundred percent. As you said, Only a weak minded fool would believe in this bull shit. I give your thread a 6/5 :)
 

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there can never be a conflict between true science and true religion, because they both describe reality in their own, though Science is almost totally incompatible with religion
 

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I think that people refuse to believe that there is something or someone greater than them. They want to understand something that they can't comprehend as a mortal and it frustraits them. So they go off and deny what is in front of them so that they can "explaine" something more comprehendable be it true or not.
Funny thing lol, people are so gullible, they take everything these lientist say and shove down their throats, but then again if you do high school biology your pretty much mind f*ucked forever, when they're done with you (not saying biology is'nt totally accurate, I'm in medical so I should know).
 

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you know this looks EXACTLY like a naruto fan boy not considering that there could be any flaws with him or accepting that any other character could be better than him. except naruto is god in this case. its very convenient to not have to wonder at the facts of life and just believe that some omnipotent being just "created" everything. life can come from "non-life" otherwise god wouldnt be able to make life in the first place. some of you are saying that the main flaw in the big bang theory is that we dont know what happened before the big bang? well then where the heck did god come from? oh he always existed, hmm maybe his life came from non-life. i actually just started a rather large debate on what happened at the very beginning and it has been an excellent brain flex. you cant just say that something is because it is and its always been that way. neither can we who think of science as the beginning. if you can satisfactorily explain to me how god is the answer then i will agree with you. but if i can explain away an argument with proven fact dont think ill accept it as truth. if you want to see my views on this you can find them here. but please read through the whole thing and try to post with some intelligence as it really is a SERIOUS thread. dont be ignorant.



oh and btw we dont eat up everything hawking and them say, i personally have never seen, read, or heard anything. the only person i have ever even looked at was einstein. most of what i believe has come to my own conclusions through actual hard work and intelectual debate.
 
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First off I know of the recent "science thread", which was about how did anything/everything come into being, But that's not what I want to address, now most of the post I read on there many people didn't seem to acknowledge God or even believe he exists. Now I've come to tell all of you that a "supreme being" does indeed exist and if you don't believe so, then your a totally gullible person that eats up everything the main stream media and scientist tells you (hawkins especially).

Now one of the basic laws of physics in science today is that non-life cannot bring rise to life, so how did "life form" first came into existence on earth?. Now the most scientifically common explanation is that when the earth was form 4.+ billion years ago water+ some basic elements came together to form the first cellular/micro organism (contradiction non life cannot form life), then over a extended period of time micro/cellular organism evolved into complex organism, scientist today call this process macroevolution (that's right macro not mirco). now let me explain how illogical and unrealistic macro evolution and evolution period is. Now the basic explanation for evolution in science is "time" and "chance", what this means is that their basically saying life begun in water thus the first complex life was sea creatures, now they claim over an extended period of time a fish like organism transformed into the first mammal (we don't see a fishes turn into cats today).

Now a fish cannot and I repeat cannot miraculously turn into a rabbit by mere time and chance, NEW chromosome MUST be added to the gene pool of the fish to change its characteristics to that of a mammal, therefore some supreme being has been adding to the gene pools of organisms to form complete different new organism throughout the history of the world, scientist consistently under mind this miraculous phenomenon by coming up with weak and shallow explanations about time, probability, mutation and chance to illuminate their far-fetched theories , which is them being in denial of a God. NEW chromosomes/dna can't just come out of nowhere over a long period (millions of years) of time either someone or something must have created and added this new information to the gene pools (or created them from scratch), mutation is a non factor because mutation damages and alters pre-existing dna it doesn't form new dna (this is a fact).

Now it just so happen that earth is at an specific distance from the sun, which enables it to harbour life, is this just by chance?, the ozone layer is a sheet over the earth that blocks out the extra violet rays from the sun, did that just magically appeared there, just by chance?, the moon is at a specific distance from the earth, that allows the oceans to form proper waves, specific/proper amount of co2, o2, hydrogen etc exist in our atmosphere to maintain suitable weather conditions to sustain life. The earth it self is just too much of a geniusly complex engineered system to have just happened by mere probability and chance. a single cell that is naked to the human eye is able to store a billion years of history and information! (One human cell), these miraculous, complex engineering doesn't just happen without "supreme intervention", so only a WEAK MINDED FOOL would assume God doesn't exit....NO apologies.

There's so much more I could add to this, but this will have to do.
So dude, are you christian or something? i agree with u 100% that god exists. well, im christian so of course i do. the problem is, not everyone would believe us i guess. so there would probably be a lot of debating i guess.
 

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Honestly, If scientists are to simple minded to not even back up the answers, why would I trust their statements. I asked the head scientist at Harvard University "How was the universe created?" He called me a dunce and said, " The Big Bang created the universe." But then again what created the Big Bang? It couldn't have just happened. Some chain reaction had to have created the big bang. But then again what would have created that chain reaction? The only possible explanation would be that it was created by an extraordinary being/event. Thats were god came in, he created the universe in 6 days and rested on the seventh. He created every species of animal, including man. He took the rib of man and a handful of dirt, then blew into it to create the first woman. The theory of evolution is a hoax created by Lucifer himself to try and direct man from god, just as he did in the Garden of Edan. Why is mankind to naive to see this? But I Agree with your opinion one hundred percent. As you said, Only a weak minded fool would believe in this bull shit. I give your thread a 6/5 :)
I know right

To add to this, evolutionists theories about the big bang totally defies simple logic, plung a dynamite into a tennis ball and then light it, the ball will explode and form an complex arranged puzzle of a dog? No, that's rubbish there's no way something can explode and the end result is positive.
 

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and there my point is proven. my post is just plain ignored by the thread creator. fanboyish again. just gets overlooked. i hope other people see this and laugh, this comment is for those peoples sake.
 

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you know this looks EXACTLY like a naruto fan boy not considering that there could be any flaws with him or accepting that any other character could be better than him. except naruto is god in this case. its very convenient to not have to wonder at the facts of life and just believe that some omnipotent being just "created" everything. life can come from "non-life" otherwise god wouldnt be able to make life in the first place. some of you are saying that the main flaw in the big bang theory is that we dont know what happened before the big bang? well then where the heck did god come from? oh he always existed, hmm maybe his life came from non-life. i actually just started a rather large debate on what happened at the very beginning and it has been an excellent brain flex. you cant just say that something is because it is and its always been that way. neither can we who think of science as the beginning. if you can satisfactorily explain to me how god is the answer then i will agree with you. but if i can explain away an argument with proven fact dont think ill accept it as truth. if you want to see my views on this you can find them here. but please read through the whole thing and try to post with some intelligence as it really is a SERIOUS thread. dont be ignorant.



oh and btw we dont eat up everything hawking and them say, i personally have never seen, read, or heard anything. the only person i have ever even looked at was einstein. most of what i believe has come to my own conclusions through actual hard work and intelectual debate.
Athiest/scientist believe non-life cannot bring rise to life, yet they claim life was formed on earth out of non-life elements. A supreme being in my view created life, thus laws of physics do not restrict God. God is the beginning and the end the first and the last, God was and is to come, no one created him. Although I'm sure all of what I'm saying means nothing to you.
 
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