Relation between Senju and Uzumaki clan

[HashiramaIsBack]

would like to discuss the direction of the relation between the Senju and the Uzumaki.

Tobi said that Hashi's fight with Madaara was a continuity of the fight between the younger son and older son of the SO6P, respectively. For this reason, many of us have accepted that Senju and Uchiha are their principal descendents, with Senju having distinct relationship with the Uzumaki. Because of this fight, people think that the Senju are more related to the younger son than the Uzumaki. However, I have the following observations.

1)Origins of the clan

Kakashi said once that the origins of the Uchiha clan lie with the Huyaga clan. This is even noticeable since Hyuga clan protect their dojutsu the same way as Uchihas, and both of them don't miss with other clan. This make me think that the two clan are distant relatives. However, from the story of the stone tablet that can be only read by Sharingan, it seems that Uchiha are the original clan. check this:

akashi said once that the origins of the Uchiha clan lie with the Huyaga clan. This is even noticeable since Hyuga clan protect their dojutsu the same way as Uchihas, and both of them don't mess
with other clan. This make me think that the two clan are distant relatives


It can be also inferred from Kushina's words that Uzumaki has more life force than Senjus. We can also understand Kushinas word as the Uzumaki being older than Senjus.

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From this, I am thinking that the Uzumaki and Uchiha were the main descendent of the younger brother and older brother respectively. Then, Senju Hashimara was born with a stronger genetic reproduction of the younger son in comparison to the Uzumaki.

Conclusion 1: Uzumaki and Uchiha are at the same level because they are the oldest clan. Senju Hashimara was a single genetic inheritor of the youngest son due to his relationship with the uzumaki.

2) Parallelism between Uchiha and Uzumaki

First, both clan were feared and destroyed similarly. Second, Uchiha have eyes that can control Kyuubi while Uzumaki have the body that can restrain him. Uchiha have strong spiritual energy and eyes while Uzumaki have life force and a strong body. In addition, the only one who was capable to wield the Rinnegan without requiring Hashi's power was an Uzumaki.

All these fact above lead me to drawing the following conclusion:

a) Uzumakis and Uchihas are respectively the descendents of the younger and older sons of the SO6P.
b) Senju Hashimara was the result of a breeding between Uzumaki and someone else that yield a power close to Rikkudo sennin. Here I will add some details. Note that even thought tobirama Senju was great, we haven't heard any body related intel on him. It seems that he was just strong but not the same type of DNA has Hashi.
c) There was something in Hashi's DNA that made him closer to the younger son, but this does not make the Senju as a clan the principal descendent of this younger son.
d) This view of things resolve the question of Hashimara's longevity. I recall some people asking why Hashi died before Madaara if he is supposed to live longer than him.

 

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That's what I also believe but no, people don't like simple answers to things, they want extremely long, full of myths theories, it has 5 paragraphs and shit,

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

No, the Uzumakis did not descend from either of Hagoromo's sons, they descended from their Ohtsutsuki (Ohzuzuki with Japanese Dakuten) Ancestors who are Hagoromo's Kinsmen, the Ohzuzuki and Uzumaki Bloodline are one and the same making them a distant cousin clan to both Uchihas and Senjus.

The mistake of many is the incorrect attribution of the source of their powers. The Uzumaki's longevity and life force did not come from the Younger Son, it came as an inherent trait of the Uzumaki Clan over time from their Ohzuzuki Ancestors which also includes their trademark red hair (something the Younger Son and Senjus don't have), the Younger Son's strong will and body are attributes directly from the Juubi's Yang, the zenith manifestation of this Yang power is Mokuton, the same way the Zenith powers of the Juubi's Yin is the MS and EMS. What the Senjus share in common are their strong bodies, which come from the Juubi's Yang, what all Uchihas share in commonality is the base Sharingan, which comes from the Juubi's Yin. In Summation: The Uchiha and Senju powers come directly from the Juubi, the Uzumaki's attributes do not. It came from their Ohzuzuki Ancestors. The Uzumaki and Ohzuzuki bloodline being one and the same, the name simply changed over the passing of eons.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

My argument has always been that Hagoromo's heritage was Uzumaki, not that he belonged to the Shinobi-Era Uzumaki Clan that came after him, but that he belonged to the Pre-Ninjutsu Clan that became the Uzumaki Clan. Which I will say with logical certitude is the Ohzuzuki. The Ohzuzuki and Uzumaki bloodline being one and the same.

The revelation of chapter 646 only confirmed my long assertion that Hagoromo belonged to a clan/tribe unlike the false assumption of many that he was simply a God who descended to the world when the Juubi started running amock.

I have also known for a very long time that the Reaper of the Shiki Fuujin is a woman, but I was never able to point out how it's related to Hagoromo, until now:

Unbeknownst to many, the Shinigami of the Reaper Death Seal is a woman:

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The Reaper is a Hannya Demon who are all females and solely females.

The Shinigami is also a priestess holding a prayer beads and reciting a prayer before commencing the sealing ritual:

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The Reaper's initial stance with it arms spread is a clerical/priestly stance:

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Like Rikūdou/Hagoromo's stance:

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It was established and well known by now that the Shiki Fūjin required Rikūdo/Hagoromo's Tablet as the catalyst for the Shinigami Mask to unseal the Reaper:

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It is because the Shiki Fūjin is Rikūdo/Hagoromo's Jutsu

and the Reaper is Kaguya Ōtsutsuki, Rikūdo/Hagoromo's mother:

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As to why Kaguya became the Shinigami of the Shiki Fūjin, Kishimoto has not yet explained or revealed why, either as an end effect of eating the Shinju's fruit or as a mother's sacrifice to aid her son in fighting the Jūbi.